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Whoo!

30 minutes before game time

by ptrck on Nov 13, 2008 7:02 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm here

Finally done killing time by watching that boring-ish Cavs/Nuggets game…hope everyone’s having a good evening so far

by Marie on Nov 13, 2008 7:31 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did they move it back one hour?

League pass is telling me it’s not on for the next hour.

by Norsktroll on Nov 13, 2008 7:31 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, they did

But I can see it now, so I don’t know why you can’t. It’s the Chicago channel airing it.

by Marie on Nov 13, 2008 7:33 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This blows

For some reason I only get the Denver-Cleveland game. Dallas is supposed to start 9:30 ET

by Norsktroll on Nov 13, 2008 7:43 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's lame

Did you try League Pass broadband? Maybe that’ll work

by Marie on Nov 13, 2008 7:44 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great

Bennett Salvatore in the house

by Marie on Nov 13, 2008 7:40 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Josh to the line

Good job going to the basket

by Marie on Nov 13, 2008 7:45 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Damp is such an offensive weakling

Escapes from Gooden, only to miss an undefended hook shot

Good thing he tipped it in himself

by ptrck on Nov 13, 2008 7:49 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It wouldn't have been awkward

if it wasn’t too low. Good thing Damp caught it (whoa!) and saved the play.

by ptrck on Nov 13, 2008 7:51 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Game is perfect

….a little too perfect

by Sky Hook on Nov 13, 2008 7:50 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Damn

Josh is hot…a quick start for him, as usual

by Marie on Nov 13, 2008 7:51 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't put the ball down, Damp!

That would have been an easy lay in

by ptrck on Nov 13, 2008 7:54 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know, right

He was 2-2 at first and then he missed a three that he had a good look on and then that jumper

by Marie on Nov 13, 2008 8:02 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Things changed dramatically when Kidd sat

Unfortunately, we can’t keep him in the whole game

by Marie on Nov 13, 2008 8:06 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know, right

I wish we had a Jason Kidd clone

by ptrck on Nov 13, 2008 8:08 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

The offense is stagnant when he’s gone…there is also no running, though to the Bulls’ credit, they played better defense

by Marie on Nov 13, 2008 8:10 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I could offer a guy who can pass but not shoot...

Our very own Sergio Rodriguez. He would also work well in a running offense. And he wants more playing time. Though I guess he will eventually end up on some bad team a la Beno Udrih.

by Norsktroll on Nov 13, 2008 8:10 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I knew it

At least the game just started…hopefully we get it out of our systems and not do this in the 4th

by Marie on Nov 13, 2008 8:07 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Green

Why can we not have Green and Kidd in at the same time?

by ETBURyan on Nov 13, 2008 8:15 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Damp

is the second leading scorer for the mavs…oh jeez

by ETBURyan on Nov 13, 2008 8:26 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he is -7 on the +/-

of course, I have never known carlisle to let a +/- to get in the way of playing stack

by ETBURyan on Nov 13, 2008 8:33 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So far this season, he is

Not gonna win many games with him shooting 43%

by ptrck on Nov 13, 2008 8:33 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You've pointed it out before, it's like he's tired

Thing is, Kidd won gold in China and theoretically should be tired as well, but it doesn’t seem like it

by Marie on Nov 13, 2008 8:34 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yep

and he wasn’t singlehandedly responsible for getting Team USA there

by ptrck on Nov 13, 2008 8:36 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, good point

But I do agree, Dirk looks tired

by Marie on Nov 13, 2008 8:37 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BG

Can’t be stopped

by Marie on Nov 13, 2008 8:35 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey-o

You’re not missing much…we had a big lead, let it dwindle away, got a double digit lead again and it dwindled once more

by Marie on Nov 13, 2008 8:40 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anyone

got an online English feed? I’m currently using the same justin.tv Turkish feed.

by jonthefon on Nov 13, 2008 8:41 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A lid on the basket

say the bulls commentators…i tend to agree

by ETBURyan on Nov 13, 2008 8:41 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pathetic

They have the lead now

by Marie on Nov 13, 2008 8:42 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Makeup call

Gray can’t believe it, but he got away with completely falling for the Kidd fake

by jonthefon on Nov 13, 2008 8:43 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FUCK

MAKE THE DAMN FT.

by jonthefon on Nov 13, 2008 8:44 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Damn it, Diop

The ball barely touched the rim there

by Marie on Nov 13, 2008 8:44 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bleh

Don’t remind me…I don’t know what they were smoking when they made that happen

by Marie on Nov 13, 2008 8:45 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FUCK

that was pathetic.

by jonthefon on Nov 13, 2008 8:45 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We paid this douche

the full MLE. And he misses two FTs and gets scored on at the other end.

by jonthefon on Nov 13, 2008 8:45 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll say it again

Pathetic…please turn this around!

by Marie on Nov 13, 2008 8:45 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dammit

down by 1 at the half

by ptrck on Nov 13, 2008 8:45 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

maybe

that means we will have a surge in the fourth?

by ETBURyan on Nov 13, 2008 8:47 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i must say watching the mavs online is much

more depressing than just seeing the box scores and reading the recaps like i have done for the past games

by ETBURyan on Nov 13, 2008 8:46 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't know what is worse,

losing in the finals…or just sucking

by ETBURyan on Nov 13, 2008 8:48 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is definitely worse.

Considering we could’ve avoided it.

by jonthefon on Nov 13, 2008 8:49 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It has to be the finals

I’ll forever be bitter and embarrassed about that

by Marie on Nov 13, 2008 8:49 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm more embarrassed with the Golden State flameout

Was a total chokejob. The Finals, on the other hand…

by ptrck on Nov 13, 2008 8:50 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

naaahh

I knew we would lose when we drew GS. I have no idea what Avery was thinking when he didn’t play starters versus the Warriors to try to keep them out of the 8th seed

by ETBURyan on Nov 13, 2008 8:52 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

To me, one is just as bad as the other

I avoided all basketball after the Golden State series until the next season started…and I might’ve cried when we lost the finals

by Marie on Nov 13, 2008 8:52 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I cried

after we imploded to the Spurs in the 2003 WCF.

by jonthefon on Nov 13, 2008 8:53 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The 67 win season didn't start good either

No need for desperation yet. I don’t think the Mavs will win that many again, but like the Spurs they look worse now than they are.

by Norsktroll on Nov 13, 2008 8:51 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the Spurs are missing

Ginobli and Parker…we are missing Devean George. I see a difference

by ETBURyan on Nov 13, 2008 8:52 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We had a nice record

at the time of the Kidd trade. Something like #3 in the West. I rejoiced at the Suns making the Shaq trade.

by jonthefon on Nov 13, 2008 8:51 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

I never got that. We were beating the good teams more than we were losing to them so I never got why we traded.

by ETBURyan on Nov 13, 2008 8:53 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Panicked, maybe

Because LA got Gasol and everything

by Marie on Nov 13, 2008 8:54 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Memphis were idiots

They knew that they could’ve tanked to get a high pick in a talented and deep incoming draft class.

by jonthefon on Nov 13, 2008 8:56 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Think

the two Gasols, Rudy Gay, Mayo, Conley as a starting lineup.

by jonthefon on Nov 13, 2008 8:56 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have no idea, really

I mean, the Lakers gave up Kwame Brown and some other guy (Crittenden?) and maybe money…we probably could have done the same thing, maybe?

by Marie on Nov 13, 2008 8:56 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we could

have given them all the cap room they wanted by sending Keith

by ETBURyan on Nov 13, 2008 8:59 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

True dat.

But it was a job deal right from the start.

by jonthefon on Nov 13, 2008 9:00 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think our record was

34-18 or something like that. And we’d lost several of those just before that because Harris was out and that made our iso offence look stagnant (kinda like what happened after Kidd got here).

by jonthefon on Nov 13, 2008 8:54 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm starting to think

the city of Dallas may be cursed sports-wise. They haven’t done anything for nine years.

by jonthefon on Nov 13, 2008 8:55 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This team....

Sucks!!!! Up 19 on a rebuilding Chicago team and now down 1 and it’s only halftime. Unbelievable how this franchise has fallen in a year and a half. These are the same guys that went to the NBA freaking finals 2 years ago. I can’t wait until we break this core up.

by Slick-ish24 on Nov 13, 2008 8:57 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just dump salary

until we can give an A-Rod deal to LeBron to get here.

by jonthefon on Nov 13, 2008 8:58 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That sounds remotely realistic

He is from Texas, right? Problem is: Nobody in his right mind will pick up the contracts of Damp & Co.

by Norsktroll on Nov 13, 2008 9:00 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thing is

LeBron can actually carry a team by himself. I’m not sure Dirk and Bosh can.

by jonthefon on Nov 13, 2008 9:00 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Josh Howard..

is the main problem here. We need clutch players who don’t shy away from 4th quarters. He is our 2nd player supposedly. Going to need more than 2 points in the 4th quarter from our 2nd best player. FRUSTRATING!

by Slick-ish24 on Nov 13, 2008 9:02 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and all other teams know that...his price will be ridiculously high

We should try for him if we can, but don’t go crazy for him. Pick up the others is a better idea

by ETBURyan on Nov 13, 2008 9:02 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Deron Williams is from Dallas, I think

But that’s a wild and unrealistic hope! I love him too, I think he’s awesome

by Marie on Nov 13, 2008 9:01 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kidd

shows a little post-up game.

by jonthefon on Nov 13, 2008 9:05 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Geez

Kidd was beating Damp for that board…that’s just one of the things wrong with our centers

by Marie on Nov 13, 2008 9:06 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think

these players are ready to see new teams…or at least to be on what is left of the mavs…they are waiting for the inevitable

by ETBURyan on Nov 13, 2008 9:06 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Having no trouble at all

laying it in over our weak asses.

by jonthefon on Nov 13, 2008 9:07 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dirk

you gotta make that shot.

by jonthefon on Nov 13, 2008 9:08 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dirk is totally sucking

I hate it…go back into that hyperbaric chamber or something, whatever miracle cure did the trick last season

by Marie on Nov 13, 2008 9:10 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh wow

let’s keep bricking FT’s.

by jonthefon on Nov 13, 2008 9:10 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Damp

gets his shot stuffed.

Goaltending called, didn’t look like one.

by jonthefon on Nov 13, 2008 9:12 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Die drei-punkte.

Dirk misses another shot but Damp tips it back in/

by jonthefon on Nov 13, 2008 9:13 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow...antoine is doing great defense...

we should not play green cause wright is stopping rose. What the…?

by ETBURyan on Nov 13, 2008 9:12 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so i guess

my internet is not live cause you guys are ahead of me.

by ETBURyan on Nov 13, 2008 9:13 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There's Kidd with..

the long 2 pointer.. love that he’s hitting the shots but get behind the line to make it 3.

by Slick-ish24 on Nov 13, 2008 9:14 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Stop shooting Dirk!

I can’t believe I’ll ever type those words. Get to the FT line instead.

by ptrck on Nov 13, 2008 9:13 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dirk's only 30

And they talk about him like he’s an old man or something…if only he didn’t play so much during the off season

by Marie on Nov 13, 2008 9:18 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Those guys are unbelievable. They talk as if Jordan was still playing for them. And in reality, they will struggle to make the playoffs. Again.

by Norsktroll on Nov 13, 2008 9:19 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You can't say that

A ton of people were playing this summer. No excuse.

Fire Todd Dodge. Seriously. Back to Suckville with a loss to FLA ATL but whatever, SUCK IT WESTERN KENTUCKY! 1-9 baby!

by sprite on Nov 13, 2008 9:20 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You're right

I don’t want to think of him being old…Nash is older and doesn’t seem like it

by Marie on Nov 13, 2008 9:21 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm going to stop watching,

and see if they do good. I wasn’t watching during this mini run. Starting now.

by bruce182 on Nov 13, 2008 9:19 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we only shoot jump shots…when they go in it looks good, but if not they look…well, like they do now

by ETBURyan on Nov 13, 2008 9:26 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The commentators brought up a point...

About how there are no screen and rolls run for Dirk anymore. I guess I never noticed this during the game. Why put a stop to a working formula?

by Marie on Nov 13, 2008 9:28 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Carlisle looking to have Dirk play a little like Bird, I believe

Dirk of old handled the ball quite a lot, dominated it, was centerpiece of the offense, operating at the high post and the key/FT line. Worked wonders.

Now he’s being fed in certain spots, having him do a cut and a catch, standing idle behind the three point line. Still a work in progress, I suppose.

by ptrck on Nov 13, 2008 9:32 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And so...

we’re going to FUCKING LOSE AGAIN.

by jonthefon on Nov 13, 2008 9:30 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

These Chicago guys sure like to bicker

And use old timey words like sassafrass

by Marie on Nov 13, 2008 9:32 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think so

Clippers have Baron, Kaman, Camby, Mobley, Thornton, etc.

The Bulls are a bunch of young players, led by a noob coach.

by ptrck on Nov 13, 2008 9:34 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If we lose to the Bobcats

I might not watch another game this year.

Fire Todd Dodge. Seriously. Back to Suckville with a loss to FLA ATL but whatever, SUCK IT WESTERN KENTUCKY! 1-9 baby!

by sprite on Nov 13, 2008 9:37 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah...

But it’s sort of working…if they can get them in the penalty, they’ll have a shot.

by DitchThePlaybook on Nov 13, 2008 9:34 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thing is

we wouldn’t go for the line even if we did get them in the penalty.

by jonthefon on Nov 13, 2008 9:35 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They certainly are

not getting the calls, though. This is so frustrating.

by ptrck on Nov 13, 2008 9:36 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cue up the Bob Ortegal quotes...

“Make a marathon out of going to the basket”

by DitchThePlaybook on Nov 13, 2008 9:39 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Del getting into the action

Fire Todd Dodge. Seriously. Back to Suckville with a loss to FLA ATL but whatever, SUCK IT WESTERN KENTUCKY! 1-9 baby!

by sprite on Nov 13, 2008 9:34 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You know who has SUCKED so far this year?

Fire Todd Dodge. Seriously. Back to Suckville with a loss to FLA ATL but whatever, SUCK IT WESTERN KENTUCKY! 1-9 baby!

by sprite on Nov 13, 2008 9:36 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Huh?

It was supposed to say Bass after that. Don’t know what happened.

Fire Todd Dodge. Seriously. Back to Suckville with a loss to FLA ATL but whatever, SUCK IT WESTERN KENTUCKY! 1-9 baby!

by sprite on Nov 13, 2008 9:36 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's a tough thing too....

Fire Todd Dodge. Seriously. Back to Suckville with a loss to FLA ATL but whatever, SUCK IT WESTERN KENTUCKY! 1-9 baby!

by sprite on Nov 13, 2008 9:39 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cuban should implement a rule

Every jumpshot taken and missed in the 4Q, regardless of who shoots, will have to pay $5000 or something

by ptrck on Nov 13, 2008 9:39 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why are we getting blown out by Vinny Del Negro?

Fire Todd Dodge. Seriously. Back to Suckville with a loss to FLA ATL but whatever, SUCK IT WESTERN KENTUCKY! 1-9 baby!

by sprite on Nov 13, 2008 9:40 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is like a completely different team

Dirk said that they’re not good enough to coast, yet sometimes it seems they’re doing just that

by Marie on Nov 13, 2008 9:41 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can't even

watch anything after the third quarter these days.

by jonthefon on Nov 13, 2008 9:41 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If we lost

any of the next three, I’m ready to give up.

We’ve just got no balls.

by jonthefon on Nov 13, 2008 9:43 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

21 shots for howard...

and he’s making 1/3 of them… eek

by kkengvib on Nov 13, 2008 9:45 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

x

You know I feel sorry for Dirk. If it keeps going at this rate, I’m all for getting him out of this hell hole and taking our chances with the Lottery.

Fire Todd Dodge. Seriously. Back to Suckville with a loss to FLA ATL but whatever, SUCK IT WESTERN KENTUCKY! 1-9 baby!

by sprite on Nov 13, 2008 9:47 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

playing like this

we don’t even need to get rid of dirk to get a good chance in the lottery

by ETBURyan on Nov 13, 2008 9:50 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

These commentators

Have mentioned the finals and the GS series so many times tonight

by Marie on Nov 13, 2008 9:50 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We are atrocious

On both ends of the floor…bricks and Swiss cheese defense

by Marie on Nov 13, 2008 9:51 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dear lord

thank for letting it be my wifes birthday making it impossible for me to watch one second of this crap

amen

by zkmavz on Nov 13, 2008 9:52 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was wondering where you were

No threats to leave and watch something else, no talking about throwing/hitting stuff or getting drunk, haha

by Marie on Nov 13, 2008 9:52 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BG hasn't been this good in a long time

Of course, he comes to life against the Mavs

by Marie on Nov 13, 2008 9:53 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

all you need to do is trap him, he doesn’t pass.

by Beasticon on Nov 13, 2008 9:54 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Speaking of Carlisle

who is this on? Doesn’t Carlisle deserve some of the blame or do we just suck?

Fire Todd Dodge. Seriously. Back to Suckville with a loss to FLA ATL but whatever, SUCK IT WESTERN KENTUCKY! 1-9 baby!

by sprite on Nov 13, 2008 9:55 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm not sure...

but the more I watch, the more calls I see that don’t make sense.

defensive adjustments, subs and the like seem to come too late…

by DitchThePlaybook on Nov 13, 2008 9:57 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dirk

that’s the 2nd airball this week. He is not in it.

Fire Todd Dodge. Seriously. Back to Suckville with a loss to FLA ATL but whatever, SUCK IT WESTERN KENTUCKY! 1-9 baby!

by sprite on Nov 13, 2008 9:56 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh my God!

Dirk with an airball from that close! What the hell is going on?

by Marie on Nov 13, 2008 9:56 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Any guys

you think we should draft? I like Darren Collison and maybe DeMar DeRozan.

by jonthefon on Nov 13, 2008 9:58 PM CST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wonder if

Damion James will declare.

by jonthefon on Nov 13, 2008 10:00 PM CST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rubio Rubio Rubio

Fire Todd Dodge. Seriously. Back to Suckville with a loss to FLA ATL but whatever, SUCK IT WESTERN KENTUCKY! 1-9 baby!