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That's the spirit!
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by Wes Cox on
Nov 16, 2008 4:44 PM CST
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We can do this
We have to…it’s the Knicks!
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 4:50 PM CST
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Yeah, that was my reaction too
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by Wes Cox on
Nov 16, 2008 4:54 PM CST
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I'm stuck with Knicks commentary
Oh well…they are not totally horrible
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 5:00 PM CST
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They have Clyde Frazier, right?
It may not be horrible, but they soon will be.
by ptrck on
Nov 16, 2008 5:07 PM CST
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Yes, they do
But i haven’t seen him tonight. It’s Breen and some other dude I’m not familiar with
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 5:08 PM CST
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Yes, love this starting lineup!
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by Wes Cox on
Nov 16, 2008 5:09 PM CST
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That's a plus.
Fire Todd Dodge. Seriously. Back to Suckville with a loss to FLA ATL but whatever, SUCK IT WESTERN KENTUCKY! 1-9 baby!
by sprite on
Nov 16, 2008 5:16 PM CST
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Wow
Dirk posting up for the last two possessions!
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 5:15 PM CST
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Damn
Too bad that dunk by Green didn’t count, but what the hell was Damp doing shooting that anyway?
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 5:16 PM CST
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Yeah, that was weird
You could see him thinking “I know I shouldn’t shoot but I’m so open….”
and he just did it again.
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by Wes Cox on
Nov 16, 2008 5:17 PM CST
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that would have been awesome
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by Wes Cox on
Nov 16, 2008 5:16 PM CST
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I didn't know Zach Randolph shoots threes
I know he tries to…I am reminded of that awful possession by him that’s on Youtube somewhere, with the And 1 dribbling and he chucks an airball three…still makes me laugh
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 5:18 PM CST
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I love that video
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by Wes Cox on
Nov 16, 2008 5:19 PM CST
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I know, it's so funny
Because even the commentators didn’t know what he was thinking out there and Isiah had this classic expression on his face, haha
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 5:20 PM CST
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I love seeing Green
Run to the basket right after a teammate shoots…always looking for the board
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 5:20 PM CST
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Knicks just jack it up unconsciously
Mavs better do something about that
by ptrck on
Nov 16, 2008 5:21 PM CST
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What the hell
That shot by Singleton…the ball didn’t even move around
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 5:23 PM CST
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Simply trading baskets
is not gonna work out
by ptrck on
Nov 16, 2008 5:24 PM CST
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They are shooting lights out
They’re playing like the Suns
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 5:24 PM CST
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There we go, Dirk
Aggressive move instead of a jump shot…and 1, too
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 5:26 PM CST
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Dirk is really trying to be aggressive
nice
by ptrck on
Nov 16, 2008 5:27 PM CST
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Oh my God
What happened in that possession there
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 5:28 PM CST
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Not bad
Down only by 9 and the Knicks are shooting it so well…you have to figure they’ll cool off eventually. We just need to defend better and finish at the rim…the usual stuff.
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 5:36 PM CST
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I wonder why he was first off the bench to replace Damp
Carlisle no longer trusts Diop after his poor defensive (and offensive) showing on Friday?
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 5:40 PM CST
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Timeout, good
maybe that lineup will be over now.
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by Wes Cox on
Nov 16, 2008 5:43 PM CST
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It wasn't too long ago
when the second lineup was like Devin/Stack/Quis/Van Horn/Diop.
Our guys right now are just a group of scrubs, and I’m afraid it now includes Bass.
by ptrck on
Nov 16, 2008 5:45 PM CST
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I remember when we had guys like Antawn Jamison and Nick Van Exel in our lineup
Good times
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 5:49 PM CST
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Me too, but no Devin before trading away Jamison
by Norsktroll on
Nov 16, 2008 5:51 PM CST
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I have this old Mavs media guide
That my brother got for me at Goodwill for like 50 cents…who is Mladen Sekularac? I don’t remember that guy at all.
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 5:53 PM CST
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Don't know
But Wikipedia does: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mladen_Sekularac
by Norsktroll on
Nov 16, 2008 5:56 PM CST
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ugh
look forward to our lottery pick…oh wait..
Obama vs Palin in 2012. bring her on!
by gossamer on
Nov 16, 2008 5:44 PM CST
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We have our pick this year.
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by Wes Cox on
Nov 16, 2008 5:44 PM CST
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Ricky Rubio / Demar Derozen for 09
Yes we can!
by Beasticon on
Nov 16, 2008 5:45 PM CST
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What is this? The Knicks are leading by 10?
by Norsktroll on
Nov 16, 2008 5:47 PM CST
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Not player too well until now, huh?
Well, the Blazers had to make a comeback in the fourth yesterday against the Wolves, too. Everything’s posssssiiiibuuuuulllee as KG would say.
by Norsktroll on
Nov 16, 2008 5:50 PM CST
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The Wolves are surprising me so far this season
They have been challenging a lot of the tougher teams…not sure how much noise they’ll make, but maybe they won’t be as bad as last year
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 5:52 PM CST
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Well, at least their arena is quiet apart from a howling wolf on the sound machine :)
by Norsktroll on
Nov 16, 2008 5:55 PM CST
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I hate their new floor
And new uniforms…and Mike Miller’s hair
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 5:55 PM CST
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We should have dealt Bass to Sacramento in an Artest deal
when he still had value :(
by Beasticon on
Nov 16, 2008 5:47 PM CST
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Yet another missed layup
Thankfully Singleton was able to follow through
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 5:57 PM CST
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It's Kidd's second layup missed
They looked easy, too
by ptrck on
Nov 16, 2008 5:58 PM CST
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Take it to the rack, guys
I have to say it every night…but they really have to do it against the Knicks. They only have one big in Randolph and Nate Robinson is not even six feet tall
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 5:59 PM CST
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And the man for the job is not on the floor
Hint: he likes cupcakes
by ptrck on
Nov 16, 2008 6:00 PM CST
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It feels like we
are losing by so much more than 8.
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by Wes Cox on
Nov 16, 2008 6:01 PM CST
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Ha, Dirk with a dunk
How often do you see that
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 6:02 PM CST
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I believe that was Dirk's first jam of the year
It was on a breakaway, but still…
by ptrck on
Nov 16, 2008 6:02 PM CST
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Man
Too bad Dirk didn’t make that shot…again, at the rim, but it was contested. That could have cut it to three.
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 6:06 PM CST
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Lee is a much tougher matchup than Zach
by Norsktroll on
Nov 16, 2008 6:06 PM CST
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Yeah, definitely
I love David Lee…I think he was the only one who was playing with any heart last season during the whole Isiah mess.
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 6:07 PM CST
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Now Carlisle puts Green back in
Or is trying to
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 6:06 PM CST
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You're right
That would have been sweet, though
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 6:09 PM CST
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Too late. Caught it with 0.4 and couldn't get it off
But he still played great for the time I watched
by Norsktroll on
Nov 16, 2008 6:09 PM CST
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I did it
I watched Quantum of Solace last night…did anyone else see it?
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 6:09 PM CST
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No, but I'm near where they filmed it right now :)
by Norsktroll on
Nov 16, 2008 6:10 PM CST
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I read that Roger Moore didn't like the violence in it
by Norsktroll on
Nov 16, 2008 6:11 PM CST
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There were a lot of action sequences
But I didn’t think it was overly violent.
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 6:13 PM CST
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I went in with the mindset that it won't be better than Casino Royale
Because it’d be pretty hard to top that film. I thought QoS was a good movie…the plot was sort of murky, but that might just be me. I liked the female lead, Olga Kurylenko…I’ve never seen her before. Daniel Craig was super hot, as always.
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 6:18 PM CST
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Woah, that is so cool
Haven’t seen the film yet. And Roger Moore? Please, he’s the worst Bond as far as I’m concerned.
by ptrck on
Nov 16, 2008 6:14 PM CST
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Probably seeing it on Thursday
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by Wes Cox on
Nov 16, 2008 6:17 PM CST
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Bob Ortegel
should retire the tie he is wearing tonight.
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by Wes Cox on
Nov 16, 2008 6:21 PM CST
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Sooo
will Diop or Damp see the floor in the 2nd half?
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by Wes Cox on
Nov 16, 2008 6:31 PM CST
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Can't grab an offensive rebound
I wonder why
by ptrck on
Nov 16, 2008 6:34 PM CST
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Man, they don't have an answer for Randolph
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 6:36 PM CST
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Bass did a decent job on him
Damp, in all his 4 minutes, did nothing.
by ptrck on
Nov 16, 2008 6:37 PM CST
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Bass
Right idea, but you have to finish those!
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 6:39 PM CST
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Damn it, Josh!
Why pass it back out when you’re in good position under the basket?
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 6:41 PM CST
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Wasn't supposed to count that!
Cheaters!!!
by ptrck on
Nov 16, 2008 6:42 PM CST
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What!
he clearly touched the rim. How can they reverse that.
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by Wes Cox on
Nov 16, 2008 6:42 PM CST
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And Violet Palmer, of all people, made the correct call
Got overturned
by ptrck on
Nov 16, 2008 6:43 PM CST
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Bad call!
There better be a makeup call here
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 6:42 PM CST
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There we go, shot and the foul
Ball don’t lie, baby!
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 6:42 PM CST
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Anybody know the blackhaired girl in the green Dirk jersey behind D'Antoni's bench?
I think I have seen her before :)
by Norsktroll on
Nov 16, 2008 6:43 PM CST
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I thought she's a stats person...?
It looks like she’s sitting behind a computer
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 6:44 PM CST
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Oh, come on!
That’s a charge! Palmer sucks!
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 6:46 PM CST
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Yeah, total charge
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by Wes Cox on
Nov 16, 2008 6:46 PM CST
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Good move by Barea
Please make both free throws
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 6:48 PM CST
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Barea
But he often wears stupid short lengths, and Robinson has more hops
by Norsktroll on
Nov 16, 2008 6:50 PM CST
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Oh, come on
Don’t tell me we’ll get burned by two calls in this quarter
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 6:50 PM CST
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That obvious offensive goal-tending no-call
should be UN-no-called. I’ll be damned if that haunts us at the end.
by ptrck on
Nov 16, 2008 6:51 PM CST
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Yeah, if this lineup keeps it close
we should consider ourselves lucky.
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by Wes Cox on
Nov 16, 2008 6:56 PM CST
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Airball from Randolph
That’s more like it, haha
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 6:56 PM CST
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Dirk might need to score 40+
Or the team collectively can just play better defense…the Knicks found their shooting touch again
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 6:59 PM CST
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He'll have to be on the floor to do that.
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by Wes Cox on
Nov 16, 2008 7:00 PM CST
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We're going to lose.
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by Wes Cox on
Nov 16, 2008 7:01 PM CST
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Antoine Wright
stop shooting
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by Wes Cox on
Nov 16, 2008 7:03 PM CST
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There should have been a foul down there
Wright got hit
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 7:03 PM CST
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Travel on Howard
But guys like Iverson and James take that huge step all the time
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 7:03 PM CST
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Does Dirk have a FG yet in the 2nd half?
I don’t remember him hitting a shot
by ptrck on
Nov 16, 2008 7:04 PM CST
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Bass
would have had to really mess up to miss that one
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by Wes Cox on
Nov 16, 2008 7:07 PM CST
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Offensive foul on Bass?
really?
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by Wes Cox on
Nov 16, 2008 7:07 PM CST
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wow, that kid dancing was awesome
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by Wes Cox on
Nov 16, 2008 7:11 PM CST
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Come on, it's only a five point game
Defense!!!!
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 7:12 PM CST
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Yes!
And one for Josh, good job by Dirk passing it right back
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 7:13 PM CST
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Such a tough shot from Dirk there....
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by Wes Cox on
Nov 16, 2008 7:14 PM CST
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Holy shit!
We actually have a chance to win this!
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 7:17 PM CST
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I just screamed bloody murder here, haha
My throat hurts…and this is just a regular season game against the Knicks
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 7:17 PM CST
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Don't have J5 inbound!
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by Wes Cox on
Nov 16, 2008 7:18 PM CST
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Josh has been impressive...
…I love his hustle – all the Mavs are fighting hard
by dirk41 on
Nov 16, 2008 7:19 PM CST
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They had plenty of time to go to the hoop
Plenty!
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 7:21 PM CST
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OT
I need to see that final sequence again
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 7:20 PM CST
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that was it?
That was like a Don Nelson special.
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by Wes Cox on
Nov 16, 2008 7:20 PM CST
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it didnt look like thats what carlisle wanted terry to do
by Beasticon on
Nov 16, 2008 7:21 PM CST
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Since when is Terry the go-to guy?
Missed like against Orlando (though that was preceded by the horrible inbound by Josh)
by Norsktroll on
Nov 16, 2008 7:21 PM CST
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Carlisle didn't need the drawing board for that!
The paint was wide open, too.
by ptrck on
Nov 16, 2008 7:21 PM CST
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Carlisle said something to Terry
so did Popeye. I don’t think that was the play. lol
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Nov 16, 2008 7:22 PM CST
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Carlisle probably wanted to wipe the bad taste from Terry...
..by letting him take the final shot again. But yeah, a drive and dish would have been better.
by dirk41 on
Nov 16, 2008 7:23 PM CST
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Dirk back to the line
Seems like forever since he’s been there
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 7:23 PM CST
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That one on Bass
Is more of a charge than the other one
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 7:26 PM CST
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15-0
since 2:08 in the 4th
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by Wes Cox on
Nov 16, 2008 7:29 PM CST
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kidd should have shot that
but whatever
by Beasticon on
Nov 16, 2008 7:30 PM CST
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I really like how Josh has contributed in the 4th and OT
This is what he has to do EVERY game
by dirk41 on
Nov 16, 2008 7:30 PM CST
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Yay
I think the Knicks gave up after that last miss
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by Wes Cox on
Nov 16, 2008 7:32 PM CST
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The Mavs' execution has been fine in crunch time
I hope this sticks
by ptrck on
Nov 16, 2008 7:32 PM CST
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I didn't like the execution in the last 10 seconds of the regulation again
But in OT they were clearly dominating
by Norsktroll on
Nov 16, 2008 7:34 PM CST
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Nice to beat the coach with three first names
Maybe this will be the launching pad we all thought the SA win would be
by dirk41 on
Nov 16, 2008 7:35 PM CST
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Yes!
We won! And I love how they don’t act like they won the Finals either, like some teams (ahem, Boston) when they beat a team in a close game
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 7:36 PM CST
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Diop must be happy
A NYC trip, hefty payday, no sweat, and a win.
by ptrck on
Nov 16, 2008 7:38 PM CST
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Don't forget the per diem
I think it’s 400 bucks!
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 7:41 PM CST
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I was wrong
Dirk didn’t need to score 40+, but I’m grateful he didn’t have to. That means he got a lot of help…Josh did great tonight (double double for him too) and Singleton was pretty competent during his time on the floor. Terry did well and Barea hit some big threes in the latter stages.
I do have to wonder about Green and Damp disappearing, though.
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 7:40 PM CST
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Carlisle played without a center for the whole second half
After they couldn’t stop Randolph, he probably figured he would rather try to pull their big men out with Dirk and another forward.
by Norsktroll on
Nov 16, 2008 7:42 PM CST
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Carlisle's thinking worked
In theory, it’s right. Randolph doesn’t play any defense anyway, so match him with Bass. Bass can’t defend either but at least he’s as quick and can score.
But boy had we lost this game, I guarantee people would be bitching about small ball, Carlisle not playing a center, him being the second coming of Avery, etc.
by ptrck on
Nov 16, 2008 7:46 PM CST
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That makes sense
But it doesn’t explain Green’s absence.
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 7:52 PM CST
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WE WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
yayyyyyyyyyyyy and i didnt even know we were playing!
go colts go mavs!
by zkmavz on
Nov 16, 2008 8:56 PM CST
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I thought you'd jumped ship, dude
Glad to see you back
by Marie on
Nov 16, 2008 9:01 PM CST
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been workin all week
had to work today… i seriously had no clue we were playing… i was so bummed out by the start i really just didnt read or watch anything about the nba…. i checked my fantasy team today and saw what dirk and jho did… very nice
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Nov 16, 2008 9:44 PM CST
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