GS trade?

I don’t think Howard is going to be traded anytime soon. He’s hurt and his value has diminished to the point where the Mavs will be selling him at his lowest value in years. Once he’s healthy and had time to re-establish his value, then the Mavs might consider trading him.

Signature! I don't need no stinking signature!!

by DerekSTheRed on Dec 15, 2008 8:48 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Another trade I'd take and run...

Stephen Jackson does everything Josh does and defends better… And while he’s kinda crazy, he’s got a swagger about himself that the Mavericks severely lack come playoff time…

And you get Maggette, who fits in perfectly with what Kidd does? And you get Marcus Williams to help solidify our backup PG spot?

Kidd/Barea/Williams
Jackson/JET/Green
Maggette/Wright
Dirk/Bass
Damp/Diop

That team is FAR better than what we’re running with now…

by N41D on Dec 15, 2008 10:58 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Interesting Idea except..

I’m not too sure how Carlisle would feel having Jackson back after that fun brawl in Detroit. Granted those Ron for Howard trade rumors that surfaced over the summer surprised me cuz I didn’t think he’d ever want to see Ron again.

by smg31085 on Dec 15, 2008 12:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

the mavericks would do this in a second i think

but not golden statew

by Beasticon on Dec 15, 2008 1:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

well our fans would be all for it. Maggette and Jackson’s contracts are a mess for our future.

by sam23 on Dec 16, 2008 6:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I like this trade if we in the summer traded Maggette

for an expiring contract, some crappy team would trade a couple of expiring contracts for Maggette. If we did that and got rid of Diop our salary would only be slightly less than 21 million between Terry, Jackson and Barea. Over 40 million to keep Dirk and sign Lebron or Bosh or someone else. Though our bench wouldn’t be very good outside of Terry, but we wouldn’t really need one if we had Jackson, Dirk, and whichever big name free agent we sign.

I have witnessed time and time again.

by srdmad on Dec 15, 2008 1:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

were not trading josh

mavs front office think josh howard is better than stephen jackson and think he is a great player that will play great once he returns from injury. that being said, take j-ho and stephen jackson out of the equation. you’re left woth marcus williams and corey maggette for stackhouse and we dont need a another PG after the JJ Barea explosion. Now we’re left with a corey maggette – jerry stackhouse swap. And i doubt that GS will agree to that but, i think contract wise it matches

by mavsss41 on Dec 15, 2008 2:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Howard is better than Jackson?

The FO better watch that 07 series, and every 4th quarter that Jackson and Howard have played in and then decide who is better.

I have witnessed time and time again.

by srdmad on Dec 15, 2008 3:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

again the fans is GS would be more than happy to give you Maggette for Stack’s expiring.

by sam23 on Dec 16, 2008 6:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Would have loved to have S-Jax

but he got that damn contract extension. No more for me.

No to Corey Maggette, too.

by ptrck on Dec 15, 2008 4:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

wont happen

stephen jackson is showing his age this season, plus its only a matter of time before maggette gets hurt again. So no go on the trade. And stop trolling the mavs forums sam23, stay on those below .500 blogs

by randyfbaby on Dec 16, 2008 7:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

ah a little ‘07 bitterness? I was wondering when that would pop up. Jack isnt showing his age, he’s just showing he needs to be a #2 or #3 option with a legit playmaker next to him. I think he’d actually help your team of softies a lot. Our bay area teams may be pretty bad now any time you wanna compare rings just let us know, Dallas. Or perhaps you’d just like to watch the video of that playoff series again.

by sam23 on Dec 17, 2008 12:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Wow, great playoff run

Utah then whooped you in five in the next round. And that was the first time yall went to the playoffs in 13 years. Congrats man.

by nivarsity on Dec 22, 2008 6:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

scoreboard

by sam23 on Dec 23, 2008 3:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Your organization's highlight this last decade

Is winning a first round playoff series.

Woo.

by nivarsity on Dec 23, 2008 6:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

and yours

is being the most overrated team in the history of the NBA. woo.

by sam23 on Dec 31, 2008 5:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Since when we were overrated?

Ever?

by jonthefon on Dec 31, 2008 10:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Haha yea I’m still a little bitter, but its all good. Go ahead and watch your $6.99 clearance bin Warriors dvd of the one good season u ladies have had in 15 years. Re-live the joy you felt that season…savior it… in fact put on that Baron Davis jersey you bought right before the series and cheer to your hearts content! because the warriors are back to being trash.

Two things are reliable out of the bay, the warriors and raiders being garage!

And sam23 you should be thanking the Mavs, if our team of “softies” hadn’t blew it that year in the playoffs your Arena would still be empty. Now it is filled with disgruntled fans who like yourself who jumped on the Warriors one year bandwagon.

by randyfbaby on Dec 17, 2008 4:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

nice try but I was a Dubs fan before you guys had a franchise….or at least before anyone cared you had a franchise…..wait, theres still nobody who cares you have a franchise…ok then, before Jason Kidd became the first person outside of Texas to realize (and be horrified by the news) that there is a basketball team in Dallas. Sure, we suck balls again, but when was the last time the Mavs accomplished anything of any magnitude? Or were you poor fools suckered into believing you could actually could beat the Heat? Despite our on and off court disaster this year I can take solace in the fact that we lfortunately do not have your pathetic crybaby of an owner running things. I’m far from disgruntled, we’re used to this and now we’re riding the wave to the number 2 pick. (have fun toiling in mediocrity for years and years, we learned our lesson about that already) So in a couple years when youre looking at an aging and even softer Dirk just inked to a brand new max contract we’ll be running out Monta, Randolph, Wright, Biedrins and whatever stud we land in the draft this year (Thabeet, Holiday, Rubio) And like I said before, anytime you want stack your Mavs, Cowboy, and ….Rangers? history up against our Niners, Warriors and Giants youre more than welcome to.

by sam23 on Dec 20, 2008 3:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

The Rangers future is much bright than Golden State's.

Although, if Randolph and Wright can fulfill their potential, it would pretty scary.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by tyd3311 on Dec 20, 2008 8:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Rangers? The Giants’ future is brighter than the Rangers. I’d say the Warriors’ future is brighter than the Mavs beyond this year.

by sam23 on Dec 20, 2008 10:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

The Giants future would be very bright

If they could develop some young hitters.. The same with the Rangers and pitchers, but the Rangers have the deepest crop of minor league pitching talent in baseball. I love Monta Ellis and Bedrins… but the Warriors future would be dramatically great if just one of Brandon Wright or Anthony Randolph could develop into a star, and if both can, then, wow.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by tyd3311 on Dec 21, 2008 10:05 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

yea we do need one of those lanky bastards to develop, but Wright looks likes he’s coming around lately and Randolph shows incredible flashes. I’m actually hoping for a lousy season to add one more young piece…its a lost season anyway. Obviously I’m biased and not as familiar with the Rangers’ system, but the Giants also have an incredibly deep crop of arms in the minors. Bumgarner and Alderson look like theyll be front of the rotation type starter in the next couple years. With Lincecum, Cain and Sanchez thats a dominating rotation that no team can match up with. Obviously you have us beat with hitting (I love me some Chris Davis) but we have some very good hitters at the lower levels…itll just take a little longer for them to get here.

by sam23 on Dec 21, 2008 2:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

The Giants farm

No hitters. Their farm system isn’t even close to the Rangers. Giants have 4-5 very good prospects, then a HUGE dropoff. Rangers go at least 30 deep with solid prospects.

by nivarsity on Dec 22, 2008 6:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yep

Just about every team has a good top 3 or 4. But, the Rangers have players with legit talent 25-30 deep. There’s a reason it will be the #1 overall system in most publications going into the 2008 season.

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Dec 22, 2008 7:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

You really must not know anything about the Rangers

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Dec 21, 2008 12:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

you really must not know anything about the Giants. We have THE best young pitcher in baseball. That cant even be argued. Then we have another top 5 under 25 pitcher in the rotation as well and one of the league’s top 5 farm systems. Josh Hamilton and Chris Davis are great, but I’d take Lincecum and Cain over them any day.

by sam23 on Dec 21, 2008 2:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

The Rangers

have THE best farm system. So they have a case.

www.mavsmoneyball.com

by Wes Cox on Dec 21, 2008 2:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

according to who? the two rankings I’ve looked at have them top 3 or top 5 right there with the Giants, but not #1

by sam23 on Dec 21, 2008 2:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

BA

has said they will have the Rangers at 1.

www.mavsmoneyball.com

by Wes Cox on Dec 21, 2008 3:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

interesting. do you guys have much in the pipeline at 1B/3B? because I’d love to see a Matt Cain/Chris Davis trade. I guess this discussion should probably be on McCovey Chronicles or the Rangers SBN page but oh well.

by sam23 on Dec 21, 2008 7:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Chris Davis is 22

Justin Smoak will be up by 2010 to play 1B.

We have the #2 pitching prospect in all of baseball (Neftali Feliz) according to John Sickels at www.minorleagueball.com .

The Rangers have tons of talent just knocking on the door. Yeah, Lincecum is great — and the Rangers hope their stud prospects turn into him — but in sheer terms of number of prospects, the Rangers’ future is brighter.

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Dec 22, 2008 7:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Posey, Angel Villalona, Bumgarner and Alderson are all stud prospects, we have plenty of minor league talent and a few young guys who are already studs in the majors. I’ll take Tim Lincecum over 10 star pitching prospects.

by sam23 on Dec 22, 2008 2:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

You realize

that Lincecum was himself a pitching prospect once, right? They all start somewhere. The more you have, the more chances you have that one actually becomes a Linc.

I didn’t say Giants didn’t have talent — but the Rangers have more. Just wait till BA and sources like that come out with their official lists — Texas will be #1 or #2 (depending on where they put the A’s).

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Dec 22, 2008 2:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I’m not saying your minor league system isnt better, or at least ranked better. (I really wanted the Giants to take Smoak, though I’m happy with Posey too) I’m just saying when you combine the young major league talent with minor league system I give the Giants a pretty clear edge. And, yes, Lincecum was a prospect, but as a Rangers fan you should know that about 1% of highly touted pitching prospects turn into a Lincecum type. I’d all but guarantee you dont have a Lincecum in your system. At best you have 1 or 2 Cain-types, but its far more likely you have a few Sanchez types or worse.

by sam23 on Dec 22, 2008 3:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Your team has a moron GM

That gives two-year deals to guys like Renteria. I bet he trades MadBum and Alderson for some gritty vet.

by nivarsity on Dec 22, 2008 6:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

actually Sabean has been pretty solid since we gave up on building around Bonds. Renteria is probably not worth 9 mil a year but SS is our one real weak spot in the farm system with not much on the way up. Also, next year’s free agent class is pretty baren in terms of SS’s. So Renteria comes in provides a solid vet presence for a couple years as a stopgap….I’m ok with it. Unlike Furcal, he didnt cost a draft pick and he didnt require a long term deal. Maybe he bounces back and puts up his old NL numbers, if that happens its an amazing move. Besides we paid well below market value for two good relievers already….If you had told me we could have Affeldt, Howry and Renteria for no draft picks and under 20 mil per at the start of the offseason I woulda jumped at it.

by sam23 on Dec 22, 2008 8:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'd be sympathetic

If they were gonna compete next year, but they aren’t. Can’t they plug in a guy like Frandsen?

by nivarsity on Dec 22, 2008 11:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

have you seen our division? And Colorado and San Diego are both getting significantly worse this year. Add Randy Johnson as the #5 starter and trade a young arm for a big bat mid-season and I think we could very well compete for the division title. And in a short playoff series with Timmy, Matty, and Dirty pitchin anything can happen. Sure its an incredible long shot, but Renteria isnt the exactly the worst guy to have in the clubhouse for a young team either. The only thing I really dont like about it is Renteria’s D.

by sam23 on Dec 23, 2008 3:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

The Dodgers aren't getting worse

Neither are the Diamondbacks.

Renteria is a complementary player at this point in his career, yet he may well be the Giants’ best hitter next season. That’s not division winner material, even if you had four Lincecums.

by nivarsity on Dec 23, 2008 6:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

getting worse

Dodgers could still lose Manny which would make them significantly worse and their rotation doesnt exactly look imposing. DBacks woeful offense loses Dunn and Hudson not to mention their 3rd most effective pitcher jumping ship to the Giants….they have some nice young players but they arent improved.

by sam23 on Dec 31, 2008 5:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Rangers farm system + "young major league talent"

Guys on the way soon (up in 2009 maybe for good):

Feliz, Holland, Smoak, Andrus, Borbon,

The next wave:

Main, Beavan, Boscan, Kiker, Ross, Murphy

The 3rd wave:

Perez, Font, Weiland, Beltre

Add those to the players that have already made the Rangers that are age 27 or under with a real chance to be ML regulars or better:

Hamilton, Davis, Kinsler, Saltalamacchia, Hunter, Hurley, McCarthy, Harrison, Duran, Madrigal, Teagarden, Ramirez, Boggs, and Murphy.

Really, the comparison between the two teams of young talent already on the rosters and those close to contributing isn’t close.

And, yes, Lincecum was a prospect, but as a Rangers fan you should know that about 1% of highly touted pitching prospects turn into a Lincecum type. I’d all but guarantee you dont have a Lincecum in your system.

Like I said earlier, the Rangers hope their prospects turn out to be as good as Lincecum. But, before dismissing them, go check out Derek Holland and Neftali Feliz’s stats. John Sickels of minorleagueball.com said Feliz is his #3 prospect (#2 pitching prospect behind David Price) in all of baseball. That’s not exactly a scrub you know.

At best you have 1 or 2 Cain-types, but its far more likely you have a few Sanchez types or worse.

Even if you’re right (and I"m not saying you are), this is a bad thing?

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Dec 22, 2008 7:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

no, thats not a bad thing at all. But a rotation with Lincecum, Cain, Sanchez, MadBum, and Alderson has more potential AND is more of a sure thing than your prospects

by sam23 on Dec 22, 2008 8:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

That's your opinion

But ok

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Dec 22, 2008 8:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

fair enough, I’ll give you that “Giants future is brighter than the Rangers future” is completely subjective. Its not like its totally false though.

by sam23 on Dec 22, 2008 8:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

It's not like its totally correct either

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Dec 22, 2008 9:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Problem with that is

For all the pitching, there are no hitters in that system. Posey, Villalona in three years and…? No outfield prospects, no middle infielders close. And on SP prospects: while I like MadBum and Alderson, most would agree they are a notch below Feliz and Dutch.

by nivarsity on Dec 22, 2008 11:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

but Feliz and Dutch are well below Lincecum and Cain…..more than a notch below. Plus we havent even mentioned Henry Sosa who could have better stuff than MadBum or Alderson. And Sanchez aint exactly old. With Zito locked in as the number 5 starter one or two of the young arms will be dealt for another young bat to add to Posey, Villalona, Schierholtz, Wendell Fairley (both outfielders by the way), Nick Noonan, and Pedro Sandoval who could all be in the starting lineup by 2010. We’ll also have plenty of money to spend.

by sam23 on Dec 23, 2008 3:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

thats weird theyd put the Rangers at 1 when they have two A’s pitchers ranked ahead of Feliz just among American Leaguers.

by sam23 on Dec 23, 2008 3:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

You are proving

that you know nothing about the Rangers’ system.

I'm undefeated in fights. Have I been in any? No. Thats because people know my f'ing status. Don't mess with the elite. - Miles

by Dirk Diggler on Dec 23, 2008 9:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Championships
Mavs – 0 Warriors – 1
Cowboys – 5 Niners – 5
Rangers – 0 (since they’ve been in Tx) Giants – 0 (since they’ve been in Sf)

so whats ur point…. ur warriors are still trash, barry still used riods and the niners are getting scrapped by the rams.

by randyfbaby on Dec 21, 2008 2:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

whats YOUR point?

my point is we have better teams than you even though were going through a very rough stretch. Warriors still knocked you out the playoffs, Barry still has never been proven to have done any roids and is still one of the best players in the history of the game, the Niners are still a better franchise than the Cowgirls, and you still have the Jerry Jones/Mark Cuban douchebag tandem along with T.O. who we ran out of town years ago.

by sam23 on Dec 23, 2008 4:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

What do you mean by "better teams"?

Nowadays?

Mavs > Warriors (I’ll give it up to a push if you want)
Underachieving Cowboys >>>> 49ers/Raiders
Rangers > Giants (bias again…again, I’ll be generous giving it a push)

If you’re talking of franchises as a whole…

Cowboys = Niners (push – if you’re really suggesting that the Niners are a greater franchise than the Cowboys, you’re full of shit.)
Giants > Rangers (clear-cut to the Giants. No WS titles though, despite constant playoff appearances since moving West. Remember 2002? If the Mavs choked away the Finals against the Heat, then the Giants choked it against the Halos.)
Mavs = Warriors (take a look, the Warriors have done very little since the Mavs entered the league, a handful of playoff appearances. Second-round exits are their greatest achievements since the 70s where they won a championship that noone remembers.)

That doesn’t leave many “better teams” arguments there, especially considering there’s a longer history of SF teams to make an argument on, and there’s still nothing there.

Barry Bonds has clearly taken steroids. His physique changed enormously between 1999 and 2000/2001. You don’t hit your career-highs at 35 and then better it by about 20 at 36. He probably would’ve been a first-ballot guy if he had simply gone through a slow and steady decline, maybe still touching 30 homers and still drawing a ton of walks, but he chose to take the low road.

Jerry Jones and Mark Cuban may appear douchebags to other fans, but they’re committed to winning and most of the time, that’s what matters. We took on TO expecting a ticking time clock and knowing we’d have to deal with him at some point.

by jonthefon on Dec 23, 2008 7:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

lol @ sam23

Mavs 16-11…… Warriors 8-22

There is no argument or push about it, the Mavs >>>>> the Warriors!

Sports are “what have you done for me lately” leagues. The mavs make the playoffs every yr, the Warriors don’t. The Mavs have a better record in a superior division (4 of the 5 teams will make the playoffs). Your Warriors have potential, but thats all it is. Hell if you look at potential, the Grizzles might be a powerhouse in the nba in a couple yrs (gay, mayo, gasol, arthur, melicic, lowry).

And you can’t hate on Cuban and Jerry Jones. They are owners and fans that go the extra mile to ensure their respective teams are in the conversation every year. Every fan would love an owner that loves his team as much as the fans. The MLB won’t even let Cuban by a franchise because they want the MLB team power structure with the Yankees and Red Sox being on top to remain in tact.

And as for the T.O. comment you sound Jealous. Does it piss you off 2 former Niners: Jeff Gracia and T.O. are both on winning organizations and making pro bowl teams, while your interim head coach is panting himself to make a point to ur team?

Sam23 just give up dog, your arguments are atrocious, and your teams are mediocre. Dallas is Manny Pacquiao and the Bay is De La Hoya…. Your teams had their day, but its time to hang it up.

by randyfbaby on Dec 24, 2008 10:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

There is no argument or push about it, the Mavs >>>>> the Warriors!

-neither team is gonna win a playoff series this year and we obviously have a brighter future….you can keep your aging, overpaid players and a trip to quick first round exit from the playoffs. I’ll take another lottery pick to add to Monta, Belinelli, Randolph, Wright and Biedrins instead.

And you can’t hate on Cuban and Jerry Jones.

wow. just wow. yes. I. can. Jerry Jones and Mark Cuban are terrible, horrible owners who fancy themselves personnel people when clearly they are not. Being so close in proximity to Raider fans we are more than familiar with those who defend ridiculous controlling owners who say “at least they want to win.” However, they seem to ignore the simple fact that these type owners havent won a championship in over 15 years. If a Jones/Cuban type owner took over the Niners/Giants/Warriors I may have to jump ship.

And as for the T.O. comment you sound Jealous. Does it piss you off 2 former Niners: Jeff Gracia and T.O. are both on winning organizations and making pro bowl teams, while your interim head coach is panting himself to make a point to ur team?

I dont know where to even begin with that. You mean am I jealous of two guys who didnt make the playoffs or teams who SHOULD fire their head coaches while we have guys in place to mold this team back into a dynasty. If you can honestly sad you wouldnt rather have Singletary whipping your pathetic cowgirls into shape right now than Wade Phillips then you are simply an idiot. I’m particularly pleased by new niners President’s recent statement that he would be an anti-Jerry Jones in that he didnt plan to have any say about the team on the field, instead preferring to concentrate on hiring smart football people to make those decisions for him. Was letting Garcia go a mistake? possibly, but I’m not jealous at all, I didnt like him anyway. Was letting T.O. go a mistake, or am I jealous his accomplishments and his new teams? If you cant understand why I want to laugh at that question……just give it a year or two, I promise you WILL understand you poor ignorant little fool.

by sam23 on Dec 31, 2008 5:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Dallas=Pacquiao? hmmmmm…..lets see…waaaaaaaay overrated, waaaaaaaay more media attention than they deserved and then promptly knocked out cold. Sounds like the golden boy and Cowboys have a lot more in common.

by sam23 on Jan 3, 2009 9:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Underachieving Cowboys >>>> 49ers

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah (pauses to wipe laughter tear from eye) hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

by sam23 on Dec 31, 2008 5:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I don't see why it appears so funny to you

even with the Cowboys’ horrible-as-shit offensive line, Jason Garrett’s playcalling that’s the equivalent of telling the defence every play and TO’s bitching, Dallas still beat the shit out of the Niners earlier this season and that wasn’t without our stud punter and one of our good running backs.

by jonthefon on Dec 31, 2008 10:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

dallas=choke

by sam23 on Jan 1, 2009 1:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

That still

makes no sense of your disagreement with the fact that the Cowboys are better than the Niners. Yes, they did choke but San Fran haven’t sniffed the playoffs for years.

by jonthefon on Jan 2, 2009 4:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Put to a nationwide poll, which situation would you rather be in: niners or cowboys, I just cant see anyone saying theyd want to be in that Dallas mess. yes, it does make sense.

by sam23 on Jan 2, 2009 12:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

You really think so?

I guess I do have a bias, but I’d say Dallas for sure.

www.mavsmoneyball.com

by Wes Cox on Jan 2, 2009 5:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I really do, hate to break it to you but I think you guys have blinders on. The rest of the country is laughing at your team and your idiot owner.

by sam23 on Jan 3, 2009 9:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I would

that’s still a bucketload of talent. It’s only about getting the most out of that talent. The Cowboys need someone that can rein in the egos and change things up.

The Niners have Frank Gore, Patrick Willis and a few other scraps.

by jonthefon on Jan 2, 2009 6:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

The Cowboys need someone that can rein in the egos and change things up.

which you wont be getting any time soon.

The Niners have Frank Gore, Patrick Willis and you have a drama queen wideout we ran out of town, a master choke artist QB, Ware, Barber and a few other scraps. The niners have tons more talent on their roster than the Dolphins or Falcons had at this time last year and, similarly, we have cap room, a top 10 pick and a motivated new coach.

by sam23 on Jan 3, 2009 9:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Wow

let’s add Jason Witten, Felix Jones, Matt McBriar, Nick Folk, Terrence Newman, Leonard Davis, Ken Hamlin, Jay Ratliff and then some pretty decent young talent around as well. That’s hardly “a few other scraps”. We just need a new head coach or a new offensive coordinator who knows how to call plays.

This year sucked but I see no reason to ditch this team as horrible with all the talent it still has.

by jonthefon on Jan 3, 2009 5:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs