Suns at Mavs Open Thread
by Wes Cox on Dec 4, 2008 6:19 PM CST
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PrintPhoenix Suns at Dallas Mavericks, Dec 4, 2008 7:00 PM CST
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Webber in the studio
Gag me
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
I was about to say something about that, too
I just switched over to USA to watch House in the meantime
You know, I've never watched that show
Not that I don’t want to, and I like Hugh Laurie. I should try to catch it online.
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Hi all
Too bad, the Suns rested Shaq in the last game when Nash went down with a cold, so he should be at the top now. Well, beating a depleted team wouldn’t be fun, would it ;-)
Yeah, I think both of them are playing tonight
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Just you, haha
However, I am surprised to see Barea starting!
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Maybe Carlisle wants a quick start
Rather than a lethargic, slow one. These aren’t the same Suns, but they can still score in bunches.
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
He's not wearing the wrap tonight
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Never mind
He put it on during the timeout
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Since I need somebody to beat down the Suns this evening, ha ha.
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I've heard the Mavs have a large German person that plays a little point guard...
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That Matt Barnes dudes has enough tattoos to play for Denver...
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Absolutely true, had the baseline -- would have been an AND ONE.
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I was just saying that over here
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
George chokes away a Dirk assist... Gotta hit that shot, friend!
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So when did Amare add that apostrophe to his name?
Just this season?
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Maybe it makes him sound sexy and foreign. Is it his contract year by any chance?
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Dirk with 11 already
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Oh geez
What the hell was that
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Dampier didn't do much boxing there on Man Mountain Shaq, did he?
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You can curse
We’ve all done it
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
A little more allowed than on BE, but still civil
Though I don’t know if Wes has layed out an official code
Where is Wes
Is he still being shadowed at work
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
NBA.COM boxscore is up...
http://www.nba.com/games/20081204/PHXDAL/boxscore.html
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What was the tech for?
On Bell
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Bell has about the 3rd black eye I've seen in the NBA this week...
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Shaq is pretty horrid from the line. I have no idea why he is as bad as he is...
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His release is horrible
The ball doesn’t spin; he kind of just throws it towards the rim…no arc to the shot
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Someone once claimed he had an injury at a child that prevents him from stretching his elbow
But maybe he just made that up because he sucks
Saw something in the paper this week about how every player on the Blazers has to hit 2-for-2 FTs at the end of practice, or the whole team runs a sprint for each miss...
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Incentive to make your free throws, or face being beaten by your buddies...
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I don't reckon the Suns have anyone big enough to beat Shaq though...
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That's the third Post Dirk assist that has been botched. Sheesh.
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Dragic with a stupid turnover
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Please keep this up, guys!
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Not when I'm in the bathroom -- very difficult to type and do that stuff simultaneously...
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I dropped a link for this thread in the BEdge Junk Drawer, we'll see if there are any other closet Cubanophiles out there...
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Why did they list Iguodala for PHX and Rashard Lewis for DAL in the graphic?
Someone is not doing their job correctly
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Did you guys see that couple dressed like Egyptians
Behind the Dallas basket…how random
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
So he does know how to dunk
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
The better part about that was
Diop actually moved towards the passing lane, so he kinda bailed out JJ
Lopez posterized. Lead is 13 and PHX needs to take a drink of Gatorade...
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I think he'll be better than Brook
He has Shaq to learn from
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Interesting observation from Phoenix
Goran Tragic < Petteri Koponen < Marcus Banks < DJ Strawberry < Eddie House < Sergio Rodriguez < Rajon Rondo
Can’t believe we traded all of them/let them go
What are they doing listing Sergio that far to the right of that equation?
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Phoenix is in the business of selling draft picks, which reduces your odds...
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Steve Kerr is all giggles every year cashing $3M checks from Paul Allen... Rudy Fernandez who???
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DJ Strawberry?
Did that guy even play a lot when he was in Phoenix?
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Maybe they need to give him some time
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Nice play by Diop in the key, changed the shot, resulted in a miss...
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That will go down as one of the worst trades in league history, I think... Wow.
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I really hope they don't blow this lead
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
I know
That’s what I’m thinking about…and the Suns are better than the Bulls
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
I saw another guy with Egyptian head gear
What the hell
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
I LOVE long outlet passes like that one the Suns just ran. Dirk for 2, 8/11.
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Apparently not
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
ANOTHER blown Dirk assist. Some of these guys need to be fired!
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Shaq
Is not even jumping anymore
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Two on Damp as well
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Herr Dirk to the rack... Going for his 20, I think...
……………………..1 …………………………………………………………………2.
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Airball
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
There is only one Dirk. Closest thing to him is that dude playing for Sactoe...
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Spencer Hawes...?
That guy looks like Chris Mihm, sort of
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Dirk
Always bites on the fake…you’d think he’d know Nash’s game by now
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Watching a classic Chicago/Portland game on NBA TV now
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Ha ha, I'm getting pretty fast at it -- once the spreadsheet is laid out, it's all cut and paste and a little bit of photoshop...
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It's really good
So you do this every time at the half over at Blazers Edge?
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Pryz is well enough compensated. But he'll probably be in the $10M category next time around, since the Bogut contract...
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Is it a contract year for him?
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
No, he was a free agent before last year. One more and then I think it's a team option for one more.
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I hope he finishes as a Blazer. I don't see him getting traded unless KP falls into a young C in the draft...
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He's been getting the job done
How long will he continue to start instead of Oden? Or has Oden been starting now
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Is he looking better after the injury
I haven’t seen him play much, so I wasn’t sure if he’s still kind of rusty or getting used to the flow of the game
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
He strikes me as "raw" or "awkward." He is NOT going to be an all star this year, that's for sure!
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How about the rookie game?
Him and Rudy, who I always ask Norsktroll about
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
They'll both be there. So will Batum, the 19 year old SF from France.
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I like him too
He’s very athletic and has a lot of energy
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
The Detroit announcers were saying he's a young Tayshaun, which is right on. "Le Tayshaun" is my new name for him...
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I would say Rudy and Oden for the rookie game. They could also make the all-rookie first team. Nic maybe the all-rookie second team. Too bad the Mavs don’t have a rookie this year ;-)
Blazers have a crazy number of draft picks again next year, I think. Paul Allen needs a Euro team just to stockpile his guys...
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I hope you guys keep Koponen
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
I don't see where he fits in, but he's very young, so who knows?
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They still have to figure out how to use Rex, who IS NBA ready!!!
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Thanks for that
He does need to develop, I agree, but I was impressed with what I saw during the summer league
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
It will wind up about 60-40 Oden, probably. Nate likes Oden more, although judging from game action, I differ.
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Chuck to Amare: "You want to be the man, now you can't even find the man with a GPS."
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This is a trick question. CHUCK JUST COMMITTED TO THE BLAZERS MAKING THE PLAYOFFS!!!
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Damn it, George
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
They have been, lately
Though tonight is the first time they both started
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Typical of this team
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Give the ball to Dirk
That’s the game plan
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
I guess not
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Good, Terry is in
Barea played a lot of minutes early…maybe he’s tired
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Dirk bowled Nash over
I laughed, I don’t know why…I like Nash
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Dirk is kind of cooling off
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
I know, right
I complained about it, especially since it led to an easy basket on the other end
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
He could have GRABBED IT. That's the one weakness of his game, he needs to rebound like he's a 7'0" superstar forward...
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I think I'm dreaming
Diop with a dunk earlier, now Damp with the J
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Damn it, that was a block
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Dirty with 30
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
He needs more boards
I like it when he gets a double double…it seems that he’s making an effort to grab more boards lately
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
A good way to bump up the post count on this thread, I reckon...
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Not sure
He practiced recently, but I guess he’s not ready
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
That's great news
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
I knew the lead wasn't safe
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Here we go
Down to 12…
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Well, this is disgusting
And typical, again
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Lead down to 10... Somebody really botched a rebound for the Mavs there...
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That line of thinking is too radical!
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Phoenix totally doubling Dirk, who needs to get higher and use picks...
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I reiterate: Matt Barnes REALLY needs to play for Denver, who are collecting tattoed players...
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They should get that one dude
From OKC…the redhead
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
He strikes me as a really good backup 4 who really isn't getting big play in Dallas...
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Who will we get in return?
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Um...
Minimum, I think? Sorry, I’m not sure
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Dang, straight swap of Sergio is the only thing that works and that's not enough value. Toss in a couple picks, I suppose...
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Then again, if you measure Sergio's lines v. Kidd, that might not be such a bad deal from the Dallas perspective...
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The Magic give away a free donut after every win
And if the team hits 20 free throws in a game, then a free Chick-fil-a sandwich the next day
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
And, I just learned that if a player on the opposing team fouls out...
You can get a free shake at Chick-fil-A…but you have to claim a voucher at a Kanes furniture store
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
I was optimistic about this game
but i didn’t expect this
""If they'd have told me you can make the team but you've got to shine the shoes, I'd have been there shining shoes." -Bradley
Now you're pleasantly surprised
We have early garbage time
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
They wouldn't be up by this much if it wasn't for him
Besides, they started defending him better in the 4th
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
I don't know
James’ antics have been annoying me lately
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Sager: "TO tells Charles Barkley to keep his mouth shut... that's kind of ironic, isn't it?"
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Is Gerald Green hurt?
JJB is playing the whole game
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
He's in the game
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Yay!
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
Here's a final box as part of my Full Service Thread Crashing -- Mavs shot 51.1% to Suns 44.4%
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Mark Cuban, you need a Spanish PG for a backup PF. Contact St. Kevin at 1 Center Court, Portland, OR.
Good luck with your season, Mavs fans…
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Thanks for the boxscores!
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
I was surprised by the 12 boards as well
Damp totally outplayed Shaq tonight…to think I was worried
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
A little thing I noticed
Two times did Doug Collins and Coach Carlisle had the same train of thought, almost simultaneously.
1. Carlisle calls a timeout when the Mavs are starting to lose steam; seconds before that happened, Collins called it.
2. Doug senses a Suns run and says the Mavs need Terry; then we see Terry enter the game very shortly.
I thought this was amusing.
Great minds think alike...?
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
zk
If/when you read this…did you get to go to the game? How was it?
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
marie
yah i went tonight…. got a few tics from a mavs dancer.(not a joke and yes my wife knows!)… yet somehow their tics are still on the upper deck…
fun game… kinda boring… crowd sucked… there were plenty of open seats, though im sure they still announced it as a sell out … it was dead all night…
im sure it had to do with the blowout and the lack of energy in the crowd
obviously dirk was great in the 1st half… jj is still defying odds and playing really well… shawne williams 12 boards… wow… no lie it was hard to pay tons of attention to the game tonight since it never was close… the beer was good though…
go mavs…. ill be there vs the spurs too… hate the spurs!
From what I understand, you get free food if they score 100+
Since it was a blowout, there was no need for you to hurl projectiles :) Hard to say sometimes if I prefer close games vs. blowouts…I think it depends on where I am watching. The crowd seemed lively on TV.
"We know we're right there, but 'right there' in this league doesn't get you anywhere." -- Dirk Nowitzki
yah you get a coupon
for a free taco from taco bueno…… and i without adoubt prefer blowing teams out… but when yure at the game… a close game followed by a furious comeback fora win is really fun… ala tuesday vs the clips
Good win.
Happy to see this Mavs victory. Normally I have nothing against Phoenix, but this year I’m just rooting against them!
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