Shaq to Phoenix or Dallas?!!

by DitchThePlaybook on Feb 5, 2008 7:36 PM CST Comment 14 comments

The trade winds and media blow-hards continue to do just that.

Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald reports that Shaquille O'neal's representation says the Miami Heat have contacted them about the possibility of trading him.

UPDATE: Yeah, you knew that already.

Teams mentioned as possible suitors in the article mention Phoenix and Dallas. While the possible/imaginary Dallas deal mentioned gave no specifics, the Phoenix scenario reportedly involves sending Shawn Marion and Marcus Banks to Miami.

Dear God, please make the trade deadline be gone already.

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Shaquille not worth a starter.

I would be willing to give up Diop, George, Hassell, and maybe a 2nd pick.

I know how to spell Dirk, M-V-P

by srdmad on Feb 5, 2008 8:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

They'll be looking for salary relief.

So if the Mavs get involved it'll have to be expiring contracts like George, Stack, Diop, etc. and probably whatever sort of hijinx they can make out of KVH's rights, and probably several hundred thousand gallons of VitaminWater.

It's intriguing to think about provided Shaq is even a shadow of his old self. Problem is, he probably isn't. That doesn't mean that I want to see him in a Suns uniform.

by DitchThePlaybook on Feb 5, 2008 8:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

George and Diop

That's what I said and this is a team owned by Mark Cuban and I think he would pay anybody if he thought they would help them win.

I know how to spell Dirk, M-V-P

by srdmad on Feb 5, 2008 8:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I like this

with a KVH contract... we'll see how bad though Cuban is willing to take on that tax hit this year with finely's and bradley's already hitting... I doubt this happens.

And if we did get him, who would start, erica or shaniqua? And would this prevent bass from getting some valuable PT as well?

If phx got him, their starting 5 would be shaq, hill, amare, bell, and nash... All injury prone... I think deep into the playoffs, they could screw themselves if one of them gets hurt, but if they are all healthy... that could be scary.

I still think we are a mike miller (or another 2/3) and Cassell away (and getting rid of george) from rising above the rest of the west and dont really need to make a huge blockbuster move...

by Toddy on Feb 5, 2008 10:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I understand what you mean.

I suppose the bit about 10,000 gallons of Vitamin Water IN ADDITION to the obvious salary guys didn't really express how unlikely I felt this trade is or was, because we simply don't have the trade-able goods to make it work. :)

I know he would pay anyone to help them win. Question is, would he be willing to gamble it all now, this season?

by DitchThePlaybook on Feb 6, 2008 11:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

ESPN

is reporting this deal is as good as done for phx... Shaq is flying to phx tomorrow for a physical and if all checks out, marion and banks are getting shipped out to crap beach...

Does this prompt the mavs now to make a move now for someone? So far the lakers, spurs and now maybe suns have made moves to improve their teams and rise above everyone else... do we fall into this trap now?

by Toddy on Feb 5, 2008 10:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

this trade shows several things

suns finally realized their current approach is not the path to the championship. run and gun, even as spectacularly done as suns does, won't get you far in the playoff. Does anyone still question mavs' decision to change direction a couple of years back?
suns also realize their window of opportunity is now or never. as fantastic as nash has been, he has carried suns as far as they can go, and nash is not getting any younger. This looks a desperate trade to me. suns panicked, which led to me next point...
is shaq trade really a good one for suns? with all due respect to shaq, he got out-played by erick dampier two years ago (which means shaq was two years younger then). there were several reasons mavs lost to heat in 2005, but a dominant shaq has never been one of them. espn described the trade as "making little basketball or finance sense" to suns. and who can disagree? do you really think this move allow suns to "improve their team and rise above everyone else"?
spurs may have improved by adding a backup pg. but if they became a formidable force again in playoff, which i believe they will, the reason will start and end with tim duncan, not a backup pg. their move so far is nothing more than marginal. and honestly i don't think they need to do much more, regardless how they seemed to struggle recently.
which brings me to lakers. they made the most significant improvement. but still, their playoff fate starts and ends with kobe. two years ago, kobe almost single-handedly outed suns, and with gasol, they may be able to beat suns in a playoff series now. but, championship calibre? let's see if this bunch can win one playoff series before we talk about contending for champion.
finally, if mavs do make a move, it definitely should not be a panic move. and don't break the core, pls. a team that is good enough to beat spurs in playoff should not be discounted so easily.

by bigcat on Feb 5, 2008 11:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

ESPN says done deal

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3234099 Wow.

by Wes Cox on Feb 6, 2008 5:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

As a mav's fan I'm not worried.

Dallas doesn't have to worry about Phoenix anymore then last week. If anything I am less worried about Phoenix.

I know how to spell Dirk, M-V-P

by srdmad on Feb 6, 2008 6:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I agree...

as others pointed out on here, he wasnt even really a factor against us in the finals, but it was more so the refs love affair for wade. As long as he doesnt command a double team (bc we know amare will, unless bass can stay with him one on one) I think we are ok.

So a match-up with phx today would look like this?

harris vs nashty
jones vs bell
j5 vs hill/Boris MEOW (the french pussy)
Dirk vs amare (yikes)
Erica vs Shaniqua

I think realistically a better line up would be (only if Meow starts though)...

harris vs nash
j5 vs bell (as their best defender, he'll prob be on him anyway, unless hill starts, then I can see hill on j5)
dirk vs diaw (this is assuming he starts, if its hill then forget about it.
Bass vs Amare
damp vs o'neal

Wishful thinking though... knowing avery, he'll have herpes or george on shaq to start against them or something dumb.

by Toddy on Feb 6, 2008 8:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

i think

we should put barea on shaq cuz shaq sucks...

how do you like that well thought out analysis?

by zkmavz on Feb 6, 2008 8:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

i'm not afraid of the suns anymore

can you rememeber a game in recent history where damp didn't do well against shaq? for the msot part, he has his best games against shaq.

second, marion isnt' there to hound dirk anymore.

go nuts, dirk!

by bluefish on Feb 7, 2008 9:34 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

couldnt agree more

I am curious too see who guards dirk now.

Amare? Very foul prone, and I wouldnt mind this.

Doris Meow (the french pussy)? He's had his games against dirk, but he wont be nearly effective as marion.

Hill? The 6'8" forward provides a possible problem in crowding dirk... but we will see.

Bell will have to guard J5, right?

This is were us having then a big and offensively minded 2 guard to mix things up to replace jones will come in handy. Mike miller or CM would be good to mix things up a little with them.

by Toddy on Feb 7, 2008 10:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs