Avery is gone.
by jthig32 on Apr 30, 2008 1:09 PM CDT
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Per ESPN.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3375306
The Dallas Mavericks parted company with coach Avery Johnson on Wednesday, a day following the team's first-round exit from the NBA playoffs, ESPN.com has learned.
Speculation about Johnson's future with the franchise had been mounting for weeks, ever since Dallas struggled to reach the playoffs as the seventh seed following its midseason acquisition of point guard Jason Kidd from New Jersey.
Johnson became Mavs coach during the 2004-05 season and walks away with a 194-70 record (.735) but only a 23-24 mark in the playoffs. Host New Orleans wrapped up a 4-1 series rout of Dallas with Tuesday night's 99-94 victory.
"This is tough for me," Johnson said after the game, not specifically responding to a question about his job security but struggling to contain his disappointment after the Mavs' second straight flameout in the first round.
NBA front-office offices sources told ESPN.com that both the Mavs and Johnson, feeling that a coaching change was inevitable, wanted to come to a resolution quickly so Dallas could begin interviewing candidates and Johnson could pursue another job.
Sources close to the situation have said that Mavericks owner Mark Cuban actually considered firing Johnson before the playoffs, specifically after Cuban and Johnson engaged in an emotional argument after a March 18 home loss to the Lakers.
Cuban refused to speak with reporters after Tuesday's loss -- Dallas' ninth playoff defeat in a row on the road since taking a 2-0 lead in the 2006 NBA Finals.
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It's kind of surreal
Because we wanted it to happen, had a feeling it would happen, and now that it’s happened, it’s hard to believe.
by Marie on Apr 30, 2008 1:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah...
i think its because we lost a good GREAT coach here… he just wasnt for us. And its not like we have another Avery Jr. sitting on the end of the bench either to come help us get to the next level this time around either, unless JJ has been giving some unreal motivational speeches in the locker room that we never heard anything about.
by Toddy on Apr 30, 2008 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is a good/great coach
But he had inherited a team that was already good when he came on board, so I’m not sure if that inflates his value or not. I agree, though, that perhaps he just isn’t the right fit. I like how he focused on defense and the team sorely needed work in that area, so we can be thankful for his efforts there.
by Marie on Apr 30, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think...
we might regret this… I know its been a long time coming, and I have ripped Avery just as much as the next guy… but are those not the same feelings some of us had before the Kidd trade as well? Now look where it got us. Its just my initial observations until we see who is brought in. Count on Avery coaching next season for sure though… Houston, Knicks, Chicago, and Phx have all been reported destinations for him.
by Toddy on Apr 30, 2008 1:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No doubt Avery will find a job quickly
Good luck to him…no hard feelings.
by Marie on Apr 30, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately
It came about a week too late.
I read somewhere today (I think Marc Stein’s column) that Cubes honestly thought about firing him the day after the season ended and before the playoffs. I would have been interested to know how that would have played out. Either a 4 game blowout sweep, or the chance to make some serious NBA history…
by BrodyV on Apr 30, 2008 1:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey, how did your finals/papers go?
Did you get to watch any of the games at all?
by Marie on Apr 30, 2008 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh
some of them yes, some of them no. I got to watch all of the first game, and most of the last game. Other than that it was sneaking peaks when I could. I lost about a week of my life to terrorist finance laws though.
Still not totally done. But I graduate May 23rd. Hooray!
by BrodyV on Apr 30, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you see any of last night's game?
You said you were busy with work.
by Marie on Apr 30, 2008 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, i take that back
I saw about 15 minutes of last nights- the entire third, and the last 2 minutes of the 4th.
Honestly, I was hoping that they would lose last night because
1) It was inevitable
2) I’d rather be closed out on the road than at home
3) This team needed to move on and fire AJ, which finally happened.
by BrodyV on Apr 30, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I also think this would have been interesting to see
That almost never happens in American sports, but managers are fired from football teams in Europe all the time basically in hopes that it will result in an immediate response from the players in terms of effort or unity etc…
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by Wes Cox on Apr 30, 2008 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WOW
What a mistake… Cuban strike 3.
1. Letting Nash walk right out the door.
2. Trading the House for Kidd
3. Firing a coach with a .735 win percentage and coach of the year honors 2 years ago.
Well done…
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.
by CMoney on Apr 30, 2008 1:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think this decision was truly mutual.
Although I guess you could blame Cuban for making Avery want out.
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by Wes Cox on Apr 30, 2008 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it's a mistake
It’s the post-season record that counts and his was 23-24.
I didn’t like how he threw his players under the bus, and he has an inflated ego. He’s a good coach but not a great one. He got lucky when he inherited a very talented roster back in 2005. Avery’s the one who lobbied for Damp and Kidd, and loaded up on past-their-prime players like Eddie Jones and Juwan Howard. For a young coach I’d hope that he’d put more faith on youngsters.
His biggest “sin” – not giving Devin Harris more freedom in running the offense…and then doing the same thing with a future Hall of Famer!
Avery’s going to be fine—he’ll be coaching next year (preferably in the East with Chicago or NY).
I’d love to see Del Harris or Westphal as the next coach. Please – not D’Antoni (the guy with three first names).
by dirk41 on Apr 30, 2008 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really hope
you come back around when Tim Duncan retires, and your owner is trying to rebuild. Ok fine, the spurs have 4 championships. You should be so humble and grateful to have what I consider to be the best big man of this era. But leave the homerism to your spurs at your PTR site. Wait until your owner is trying to rebuild around Parker here in a few years when he is in his 30s, and you havent any young talent on your team any longer. You’ll be lousier than the Rockets after their run… and for much longer too.
Then you will only pray for such an owner as Mark. At least I know my owner cares about his team first, and his bank account second. He does what HE as a fan first, thinks is best for his team. Its probably the same way that you or I would handle it, were we ever to be the owner of a sports team we actually cared about.
Of course such a homer of San Antonio would dare come on here and throw the owner who knocked their “point guard who would never lead them to a championship” out. Well, you dont have any interest in this team, nor do you really care about anything other than sticking up for someone who once was wore a Spurs uniform. I admire your loyalty, but you dont need to troll on here to stick up for him. Fact of the matter is, most of us appreciate what Avery did, but it was time to part as friends. And that’s ok.
San Antonio… Were fans are STILL butt hurt about a billionaire making fun of their mud hole happens.
by Toddy on Apr 30, 2008 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dallas... Where Unfinished Unfinished Unfinished Business Happens...
I’m not going anywhere so don’t worry. And the Spurs are going to be just fine seeing how Tony Parker is 25, Manu is 30 and Duncan is 31. Each one of these guys have 4+ years of peak basketball left in them. Oh and as far as developing young players… The Spurs own the Austin Torrors and implement their exact same system. The only other NBA team that does this is the Lakers. So don’t worry about us, we’ll be just fine.
“Then you will only pray for such an owner as Mark.”
I laughed for 5 minutes after reading this. Oh man, good stuff. I live in Dallas so I have seen first hand how Mark has hurt this team. If you can’t see that, then there’s no help for you. Mark let Nash walk right out of the door for nothing…. NOTHING. He traded away your youth for an old point guard who can’t hit a shot to save his life and now he’s fired a coach who only held the position for 3 years.
And to think that Dirk could of possibly been traded before this year for Kevin Garnett or Kobe. Wow…
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.
by CMoney on May 2, 2008 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting...
So when you let Turkolu, Barbosa, and now Scola go for nothing… I guess that accounts for nothing. Its no Steve Nash, but thats one 6th player of the year, one most improved player of the year, and a PF who has taken the Rockets to a 22-game win streak. Be careful to throw bricks about Nash, when your own organization lives in a glass house… oh and speaking of youth, it is the OLDEST team in the League top to bottom. Easy to talk about one trade which made us older, but yet the spurs seem to hold the bar so high that it still didnt push our average age over yours, or Phoenix’s… but nice try.
To be honest with you, Nash going to phx is a feel good story that fits the media hype headlines… but if you ask most people
here in Dallas (who have half a brain and aren’t completely homer to everything that is Cuban/Mavs) about the Nash deal, while yes he was a big assets that we lost for nothing, he was on the decline his last few years here with his back, and we actually got BETTER when/because he left. Fact of the matter is actually about letting Nash go, AVERY was the one who was in favor of it, because HE is the one who wanted to bring in Dampier. Avery had just been released from GS, where he played along side of Damp, and when Avery came back here, HE is the one who encouraged management to sign Damp. Damp could not have been brought in, had we signed Nash that summer. Most of us here will be hard on Cuban/Avery/Dirk/anyone else when they make a poor move, but if you DID in fact follow this situation, it wasnt/isnt just Mark who does all the deals here. Most of them have gone through the “All Holy Avery” and the GM Donnie Nelson also. Mark is just one of those owners who actually care enough to trying and doing deals that make his team better, without thinking about the financial consequences. So realizing that now, do you have the same feelings about your “What a mistake… Cuban strike 3.” – takes that went down? Cuz in reality, most of these fall back on your beloved Avery who instigated/supported your first two points there. So if you hold Avery to such a standard, and he is the result/supported the first two points you made… then it should be obvious why number 3 fell into place and therefore you have resolved your dilemma about the “mistake” Cuban may or may not have made with Avery in the first place.
Just because its Steve Nash, and he is that “feel good” story which leads everyone to think that they cant ever hold him accountable when he falls year after year… everyone out there seems to think we lost such a huge piece. Well I like Nash just as much as the next, but from a basketball standpoint, there was no way we could’ve done some of the trades/deals (the Damp deal, the JET deal, the Harris/Stackhouse deal) we did that summer, which did in fact get us a team that got us PAST YOU GUYS the following year, something we had never done before with Nash mind you, and on to the finals. Besides, what has Nash EVER done, even outside of Dallas, that would make us think that if we had him we would’ve gotten a championship? He couldnt even get one, check that, he couldnt even get past you guys nor us, with a multitude of talent-laden teams in 05, 06, 07, and 08. You mean to tell me that with two, not one, but TWO other all-stars on his team in ‘05 and ‘07 he could not get past you guys? And this is how you define his greatness? Did Dirk get past you guys? How many other all-stars (at the time) did he have on that ‘06 team? hmmm… interesting. That either shows a LOT about Dirk, or how really insignificant Nash is/was on those Suns teams. Either way, its a lose-lose for you and the hole you’ve have chosen to back yourself into.
The only other NBA team that does this is the Lakers.
They also spend money, and that’s what makes them, the Yankees, the Red Sox, the Cowboys, and yes, now the Mavericks easy to hate. They will ALWAYS be in it to win it, or QUICKLY rebuilding to win it. Again, I am not knocking what the Spurs have done, that have a great organization that implements discipline basketball with it’s players…. but all I am saying is 4-5 years from now when you guys start to rebuild, and TD and Manu are long gone… then come tell me how great your ownership is in being committed to doing what it takes to win.
by Toddy on May 3, 2008 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL, Another knee-jerk reaction
Way to bend the facts to fit your argument. Do you know what "nothing" is? Because letting Steve Nash walk out the door without getting another player, money or draft picks is "Nothing." You can’t say that the Spurs dealt Barbosa for nothing seeing how he was drafted by the Spurs and then traded away for a first round pick. He never wore a Spurs uniform. In 2003, we aquired Turkoglu as a role player in a 3 team trade, and he stayed with us less than a year because he was averaging less than 9 points a game and really never found a fit with the 2003 NBA Champions. Now I will say that we did let Turkoglu leave as a free agent, but the Turkoglu of 03-04 is not the 20 pts per game Turkoglu of today. I also point out that since we dealt these players away we have won 2 championships. How many championships has Dallas won since letting Nash walk….for nothing? The Spurs drafted Luis Scola in 2005 but because of his contract with TAU we couldn’t bring him over. So we did deal him away….but not for nothing. We received a 2nd round pick, Vassilis Spanoulis and money. That sure sounds like more than what the Mavs received for Nash. And to say that Scola is the reason that Houston won 22 games in a row is hilarious. The reason that team won 22 games was because of T Mac. And I will go on to add that since we let these guys go, not a single one of them has won an MVP trophy….let alone 2. I will agree with you that we are one of the oldest teams in the NBA. But the mileage lies on the role players (Finley, Horry, Barry, Vaughn) not the Big 3. As everyone knows, role players can be replaced. Heck maybe the Mavs can send us another Finley…
Now pay attention to this part because this is where I blow up your entire "Fact of the matter is actually about letting Nash go, AVERY was the one who was in favor of it, because HE is the one who wanted to bring in Dampier" argument. On July 14, 2004, Steve Nash signed with the Suns after opting out of his contract. Dallas had the opportunity to match the Suns offer but Cuban declined. Also, in the summer following the 03-04 season, Avery signed on with the Mavs as a player-coach. Avery then retired from playing on October 28, 2004 (3 months after Nash left) to focus on coaching full time, and eventually took over on March 19, 2005. So by you’re account, you’re trying to tell me that Avery (as a newly acquired player-coach) is the one who forced Cuban’s hand? Do you see how ignorant this statement (but if you DID in fact follow this situation, it wasnt/isnt just Mark who does all the deals here. Most of them have gone through the "All Holy Avery" and the GM Donnie Nelson also.) sounds now? You see, at this time, Don Nelson was the coach of the Mavs, not Avery. Mr. Nelson went on to say that he knew the moment Nash left that the Mavs championship hopes were lost. Nelson loves Nash and Dirk both so to say that he would let Avery (still a player-coach) go above his head is ludicrous. Damn those facts…always messing up your argument.
I’m going to quote you again so get ready….here it comes…. "Besides, what has Nash EVER done, even outside of Dallas, that would make us think that if we had him we would’ve gotten a championship?" Well let’s see, he and the suns beat your Mavs in 05 and won 2 consecutive MVPs trophies. I will be the first to say that both Nash and Dirk would have a won a title in 2006 had Nash been retained. We’re talking about 2 players that won 3 consecutive MVP trophies. And let me remind you that the Spurs were "one stupid Manu foul ” away from beating the Mavs after being down 3-1 in the series. Every year we’ve beaten the Suns, we’ve won a championship.
Alright, I’m going to quote you one more time, but I promise to stop after this. I swear. "hmmm…interesting. That either shows a LOT about Dirk, or how really insignificant Nash is/was on those Suns teams. Either way, its a lose-lose for you and the hole you’ve have chosen to back yourself into." I had to post this for a good laugh. Man I sure did back myself into this corner for using "Facts"! But you know, facts are overrated and who can believe those anyway. It’s so much easier to blame Avery and rely on another knee-jerk reaction.
Now I’m not foolish enough to think that the Spurs Dynasty will last forever. All good things must come to an end. But while your stuck looking to the uncertain future, I’m going to enjoy the NOW. And I’m so thankful that it has lasted this long. I’m glad we could have this talk, but I have to run, my team is playing tonight.
Superman wears Manu Ginobili pajamas to bed.
by CMoney on May 3, 2008 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok TROLL
1.
Do you know what “nothing” is?If “nothing” as you define it = Damp, Stack, Harris and JET… then yes I guess I dont. Your Steve Nash for nothing argument is still one sided and single minded, as you see that had we brought back Nash, we could not have made the changes we did that year to bring in Dampier, Harris, Stack, and JET… All of whom have started and played significant roles for this team. Maybe either of these deals could have been done with nash on the team and his big contract, but its been reported that they couldn’t have.
2. What makes you think that with Nash and Dirk, we would have won? So you think that with Nash minus Damp and Co. that we would be beating you guys every year since? Really? Wow, cuz he hasnt seemed to do it in PHX with a better team than the one we “would’ve” had, had we kept him. Since you swing on all your “facts”, what factual evidence leads you to believe that we would have won? Has Nash ever defeated you guys… either in the time in Dallas or his time in Phx? Ok then. The Finley, Nash, Dirk thing hadnt worked in the 3 years prior, we had to shake something up if we wanted to CONTEND. Nash’s numbers had declined that last season he was with us, his back was a HUGE issue, which is why we didnt bring him back. Plus, when Avery was brought back on the team that summer, Cuban probably listened to Avery a little more because what Nellie had done hadnt worked, still hasnt work, and seems as though it wont work. Cuban knew the team was going to be turned over to Avery, as it was reported that it was understood from the beginning that Johnson was being groomed to eventually succeed Nelson as head coach and bringing in Dampier, aka a TD defender, was what Avery pushed for because he knew the Championship went through you guys. It was Avery who pushed for the signing of Damp right when he got here, because he had just finished playing along side him at GS the previous year. If you really wanna bring facts into this arguement, then try to prove me wrong on this. Find it somewhere from a media source where it quotes that Avery didnt want to bring in Dampier from the get go when he came back, Cuban SOLELY let Nash go, and that had we kept him, we would’ve beating you guys.
3.
he and the suns beat your Mavs in 05 and won 2 consecutive MVPs trophies.Wow. I cant believe for someone who sits and prides themselves on on their championships, I cant believe you even make this arguement. Ask Nash if he would trade in those two MVP trophies for a championship. Ask Dirk if he would for his? Malone? Barkley? Iverson? Garnett? It means nothing without the championship hardware. You’ve been hanging out too much at BSoS to even bring up that if that’s how you define a player’s greatness. Nash is a GREAT player dont get me wrong, that’s not my arguement. Its whether or not he would have gotten us over the hump to a championship… and the numbers thus far dont lie, because Nash = 2 MVP’s, 0 championships. Yes, just like the Mavericks also.
4. So while I find myself defending Cuban more than I should, I dont want you to think he has been the best thing since sliced bread, or that letting Nash go was all Avery. Sure he signs off on all that stuff, I realize that. But to say that Nash was going to put us over the top? Come on man, seriously. He hasnt done it with a BETTER team in PHX, what makes you think he would’ve here had he stayed?
5. We (the Mavs) are in the uncertain future, I will admit. I guess it’s easy for you to sit on your Ivory tower right now and just throw your useless jabs at fans who will never concede to what you would like us to believe.. but like I said before, when your Dynasty is over, your future is uncertain, and you have an ownership who is more concerned about the bottom line than what YOU (just ask the Phx fans about that) ultimately want (a championship) we will see who is laughing…
by Toddy on May 3, 2008 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Article on DB.com
On the main page, about Avery…it’s an eye-opener for me, since I didn’t know about some of those things that Fisher wrote.
by Marie on Apr 30, 2008 2:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why am I busy at work today!!!!
I don’t even have time to go read that
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by Wes Cox on Apr 30, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You actually made it into work today?
I turned off my phone last night, called in sick this morning, and probably wont be back until friday at best…
I never seem to handle our playoff exits well. I save up sick days just for this time of year.
by Toddy on Apr 30, 2008 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've used up so many sick days already...
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by Wes Cox on Apr 30, 2008 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
I’ll check it out.
BTW, good luck to your Magic! I wonder who you’d root for if both the Mavs and Magic were in the Finals.
by dirk41 on Apr 30, 2008 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would die if that ever happened
But…I’d go for Dallas. I love the Magic, but I’m not such a die-hard fan of theirs as much as I am with the Mavericks (I hope that sentence made sense).
I eventually need to go to Dallas and attend a game there…I’d love to experience that.
by Marie on Apr 30, 2008 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
I assume you’re referring to this?- http://www.dallasbasketball.com/fullColumn.php?id=424
The more I think about it, the more AJ reminds me of another high profile, never wrong, dismissive, condescending, and insular leader. And… Yikes. Lets just say that GWB didn’t make a good baseball guy either.
by BrodyV on Apr 30, 2008 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You had
to bring politics into it, didn’t you?
by rassoodocks on Apr 30, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes
Shoes fit.
And I don’t think that it’s always a bad thing. Riley and Jimmy Johnson both won championships with the same sort of personality. On the Democratic side, LBJ was the same sort of president.
BUT, after a while that personality becomes grating, and it was quite obvious that Dirk was about ready to strangle AJ.
Which makes me wonder- why not have a player coach? Let Kidd be the head coach, and let Westphal or Harris be the bench coach? It’s so crazy, it just might work!
by BrodyV on Apr 30, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's the one
I’ve always wondered about the Avery/Stack thing. I’m a lurker at the DB.com boards and those people always talk about some kind of relationship between those two, so I knew that Avery favored him, but never knew why.
by Marie on Apr 30, 2008 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds familiar.
That article seems very one-sided. I know another coach who’s high profile, never wrong, dismissive, condescending, and will yell at his players in a profanity laced tirades … His name is Greg Popovich. He also owns 4 championship rings.
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by CMoney on Apr 30, 2008 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Tim Duncan
owns those rings way more than he does… Greg is a great coach, but having the best big man of this era doesnt hurt his efforts there either.
by Toddy on Apr 30, 2008 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was against knee-jerk firing at first...
But I think it’s the right move. Great coach, better person, but the players just weren’t responding to him. You don’t win 67 games by accident, but the loss to GSW falls squarely on his shoulders. Maybe this team, as it’s currently constructed, would be better off with someone more suited to the personnel — specifically Kidd.
by MeanMr.Mustard on Apr 30, 2008 2:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I tend to agree.
Maybe it’s the conspiracy theorist in me, but I heard Avery remarking about CP3 in a radio interview, and mentioning how coachable he was and how he has a good relationship with his head coach…sort of inferring that it’s not that way in Dallas.
Sounds like maybe JKidd helped run another coach out of town…..
by DitchThePlaybook on Apr 30, 2008 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone listen to Avery's interview on ESPN radio?
I’d love to know what was discussed. The posters at the DB.com forum are all getting a kick of how Avery apparently said that Devin was like a son to him.
by Marie on Apr 30, 2008 4:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If I have to choose between Johnson and Cubes...
...I’m taking Cubes every time. AJ can go to NY and make a lot of money winning regular-season games in the East. Apparently that’s not good enough for Dallas, and I’m glad it’s not.
Face it: if Cubes leaves, Dallas is closer to Roy Tarpley Part II than NBA title.
by Nyghtewynd on Apr 30, 2008 4:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Had to be done
Avery could move on and be a very successful coach somewhere else, and I’d stick by my opinon on this. He had his chance here and blew it, and we have to part ways now.
Livin' in Heartbreak Central...
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by BudLight on Apr 30, 2008 4:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
and that
is what it all boils down to. Coaches in any sport don’t go from genius to idiot in the space of five years- but they do stop being effective. Red Auerbauch was one of a kind, and it helped that he was the only person in the league smart enough to draft on basketball ability rather than skin color (a trait that he used to cut both ways).
In lots of ways, that’s why the above spurs poster is slightly wrong about the comparison between Pops and AJ. The difference is that AJ tried to use that style on a bunch of guys basically his own age, whom he had very little credibility with. Combine that with some really boneheaded basketball moves (Eric Dampier, your table is ready) and there’s really no comparison between the two. You can get away with being that kind of asshole leader when you’ve got the credibility- thats the reason that Jimmy Johnson could walk right into any coaching job in the NFL, at any time he wanted to, and why Bill Parcells does that on a regular basis. Of course, Pat Riley exposed AJ for an absolutley HORRIBLE in-game coach, and that was the beginning of the end.
by BrodyV on Apr 30, 2008 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
and I also think that AJ didn’t do an effective job or coaching the team during the adverse times. He has a sick w/l record during the regular season, and when the jumpers were falling in 2006, he looked like a genius. It really does boil down to how effectively you can get the most out of your team, when you’re outmatched. I think his early success helps us forget that he’s still an inexperienced coach.
I wouldn’t doubt that at some point, he’ll win a championship as a coach if he finds the right team. This just wasn’t the right one.
by DitchThePlaybook on Apr 30, 2008 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eddie Jordan
If the rest of the team stays, I really like the idea of possibly acquiring Eddie Jordan. Supposedly he’s a Kidd type of guy, might work well, letting the team build around Kidd’s type of play.
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by rodeoclown on Apr 30, 2008 5:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
booo
that guy is dumb as rocks
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by ab03 on Apr 30, 2008 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And so is..
A lot of people. Perhaps a little more constructive criticism to prove he’s dumb as rocks would be worthy of an argument instead of just blurting out words.
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by rodeoclown on Apr 30, 2008 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the wizards
are like the mavs from the early part of this decade – no D. they seem to be doing a bit better in the playoffs with their “hit everybody hard” approach but it’s not exaclty a sound coaching philosophy. He’s been on the veryge of losing his job for quite a while now and while some mgiht argue that personnel was his problem, he’s actually had a pretty decent squad for a long time and he’s never been able to get production. plus, he hasn’t been very good at winning winnable playoff series
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by ab03 on May 1, 2008 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he's a Kidd guy
Then let’s send Kidd to him instead of the other way around.
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by Wes Cox on Apr 30, 2008 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yay?!?...?
Been wanting for Mark to fire Avery for a long time, but now its like bleh not as exciting as I expected it would be.
by Sky Hook on Apr 30, 2008 5:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Probably because you saw the writing on the wall
by Marie on Apr 30, 2008 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and because
we still don’t have any real idea who might replace him.
by BrodyV on Apr 30, 2008 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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this article is from hoopsworld. Make sure and hit the video link on the page to see what Josh and Dirk had too say… Granted most of it is already posted all over the internet, but it sometimes gives a different perspective when hearing THEM actually say it.
by Toddy on Apr 30, 2008 9:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Supposedly he wil be on Norm's show tomorrow
This should be interesting.
Livin' in Heartbreak Central...
heartbreakplex.blogspot.com
by BudLight on Apr 30, 2008 11:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Donnie on with the Musers as we speak
Just said they were not considering any coaching candidates from within the organization or the college ranks.
Livin' in Heartbreak Central...
heartbreakplex.blogspot.com
by BudLight on May 1, 2008 8:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
OMG
we will take avery if Nelly decides not to come back…...
GO WARRIORS LOTTERY BABY!@
brb, going to ORACLE
by warrior510 on May 1, 2008 8:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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