A Tale Of Three Joshes?

by Mister Naxal on Jul 23, 2008 5:41 PM CDT Comment 3 comments

G/F Josh Childress signed a 3 year $20 million dollar deal with Greek team Olympiakos today, bolting the Atlanta Hawks for the Euroleague. Childress' deal sounds sweet...3 years, $20 million after taxes and an opt-out clause at the end of each year.

More to the point, however, I think opens up an interesting opportunity for the Mavs. The Hawks have not resigned restricted free agent Josh Smith. Word on the street is that part of Childress' reason for leaving the Hawks was his opinion of the team's management. I don't think any of us need to look too long nor too hard at the recent history of the Hawks to see that

If Josh Smith (and/or his agent(s)) have these same concerns about team management, would you offer a package headlined by Josh Howard to Atlanta for a sign and trade for Smith? I don't know if the Hawks would even think about trading Smith and I don't know if he's really interested in leaving Atlanta (or if he's waiting for the Hawks to pay him big time...my guess is he probably doesn't want to leave The ATL since he's from the area), but if there's even a slight chance, I'd want the Mavs to be in on it. Josh Smith is a phenomenal talent.

If such a possibility exists, it seems like one of those situations where both teams can get what they want: Josh Smith gets money and a spot on a team with more of an upside than the Hawks (albeit in a much tougher conference). Josh Howard gets a change of scenery. The Hawks get a couple of our bench players to beef up the eight players they currently have under contract.

I wouldn't do a Howard-Bass-Stack deal for Artest. I would do that same deal for Smith. Thoughts?

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I See Y'all Have Already Been Thinking About This...

Just read this post. Mine’s mostly a dup, but with the Josh Childress news update.

by Mister Naxal on Jul 23, 2008 5:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, we've talked about it some...

Not sure I’d trade Howard and Bass for Smith… Is he an upgrade? Sure… Is he the type of upgrade that makes me want to further deplete an already thin bench by trading Bass? Not so sure…

by N41D on Jul 23, 2008 8:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

that deal is not an upgrade

Any deal the Mavs do, in which they move howard for an Artest, Smith, Carter, etc… While that might be an upgrade at that spot, it doesnt make us a contender. I’m sorry, but none of the guys who we could realistically get right now for Howard with his stock not being very high, while may improve the the position and team some, it still isnt a move that the Mavs are looking at.

A line up of Kidd, Jet/spare, Artest or Smith, or VC, or Wallace, or whoever else, Dirk, damp/diop, while might or might not be a better line up depending on your view, it STILL is not heads over heels better than Kidd, JET/spare, Josh, Dirk, Damp/Diop, which we have right now.

The Mavs realize this, that’s why Josh probably wont be available for any of these guys. ESPECIALLY not Josh and Bass. You have a star there, and a VERY good up and coming role player. They are going to do everything they can to keep josh, use bass, stackhouse’s and jones contract all as bait, to try and bring in one of these guys. Cuz then, a line up of Kidd, J5, artest or smith or VC or wallace or whoever, Dirk damp/diop DOES put is into contention.

Thing is, we could be waiting til the trade deadline for this to happen. If winning right now were not so imminent, I’d say do this in a heart beat. Cuz long-term, this deal will favor the Mavs if they were to start rebuilding. But they are going to do everything they can to get one of the those guys without using josh howard… which again means we probably need to be patient in waiting for guys like Artest make the Kings pay for not trading him sooner by a stronger push to be traded, high drama, and probably not showing up for games.

by Toddy on Jul 23, 2008 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs