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by Marie on Jan 11, 2009 11:55 AM CST

The latest trade rumor is brought to us courtesy of Boston.com. This article states that there is a three-team trade in the works which would send Earl Watson from OKC Thunder and Gana Diop to Charlotte, and in return we would get the Bobcats' Raymond Felton.

Now, is this a good thing (if there is even a grain of truth to the rumor)? Felton is pretty talented (averaging 13.2 PPG and 6.1 APG this season) but we have glaring holes in the 5 and 2 positions. We become an even smaller team by getting rid of Diop and while the small, "bastardized" lineup (Carlisle's own words!) may work from time to time, against teams with a more formidable post presence (no need to look further than last Friday's massacre), it would be our undoing.

So, is this a good, bad, or lateral move? Anything to get Diop off the books is probably a good thing, but at the risk of getting smaller, is that a smart idea?

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I do it just to get Diop off the books...

I mean, let’s face it… He plays ten minutes a night anyways… It’s not like losing him cripples us inside… Give those extra ten minutes to Bass. It’s not a huge difference and at least Bass is productive when he plays…

by N41D on Jan 11, 2009 12:43 PM CST reply actions

i wanna trade with charlotte, but not this trade

this team is supposed to get better to make a serious serious run and contend for the title in the post season and i dont see how this trade makes them better. i say go for gerald wallace except don’t trade any of the starters(counting jet as a sstarter at the 2) and bass. tht would make the team better. i mean look at the team if we make the trade. Jkidd, j-ho,gerald wallace,dirk and damp starting and jet and mayb basss if hes not traded off the bench along with jj barea andd the other good players off the really good bench we already have.

by mavsss41 on Jan 11, 2009 12:55 PM CST reply actions

this team isnt going to contend for a title this season...

get diop outta here…

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by zkmavz on Jan 11, 2009 1:26 PM CST up reply actions

ya

lets get a good player but not trade any of our good players

you cant even do that shit on video games now

by kumizi on Jan 11, 2009 2:16 PM CST up reply actions

Diop is very expendable

He doesn’t contribute much in the time he’s given so I’m fine with him gone. But yes, I’m still concerned about not having two true centers in the roster; look what happened the past two 1st round exits: only Diop in ’07 (with Damp injured) and only Damp last year.

Which is why if this deal goes down, I don’t believe the Mavs are done dealing just yet. Big man, please?

by ptrck on Jan 11, 2009 1:08 PM CST reply actions

Good one ...

http://www.dallasbasketball.com/fullColumn.php?id=1226 … Read this article. Great sugestion. If we could get Felton losing only Diop and Williams, that would be a hell of a trade. Felton is a really good player, good defender, goes to the rack but needs work in his jumper. He is young and has lot’s of potential. To get him and don’t use Stack’s contract, would be fantastic. In the article the trade would be like this:
Dallas get: Felton, Smith (from Thunder)
Dallas gives: Diop and Williams

OKC gets: Morrisson and May
OKC gives: Smith and Watson

Bobcats gets: Diop and Watson
Bobcats gives: Morrisson, May and Felton.

I would do that in a second. Can we have felton already for the Kings game? We would have Stack’s contract and could trade him together with Josh in the future. That would be great.

by hugommorais on Jan 11, 2009 1:14 PM CST reply actions

I trade Diop and Williams,

but I try to get Felton and Wilcox back.

Stop trying to trade Howard…now is not the time.

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by Walter Sobchak on Jan 11, 2009 1:18 PM CST up reply actions

This time may never come ...

I don’t know if the right time will ever come … He doesn’t play with the mind on the team … He has no focus. If he plays the whole season this way we won’t get 20 cents of the dollar for him.

by hugommorais on Jan 11, 2009 1:22 PM CST up reply actions

would definitely do this trade

is it the dream trade that will make this team a contender? hell no

is felton a better player than diop? hell yes

by kumizi on Jan 11, 2009 2:18 PM CST reply actions

Agree,

I would pretty much do any trade that involves getting Diop’s contract out of here.

I have witnessed time and time again.

by srdmad on Jan 11, 2009 3:29 PM CST up reply actions

Seeing this rumor makes me think that the reason we

saw that Bargnani rumor is because we would need a backup center.

I have witnessed time and time again.

by srdmad on Jan 11, 2009 3:35 PM CST reply actions

prob not

Bargnani is less of a post player than Dirk is… He is kleenex soft, nice jumpshot though.

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by theflip44 on Jan 11, 2009 4:05 PM CST up reply actions

but what if by some magical transformation

bargnani came here and really did become the Italian Dirk?

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by Walter Sobchak on Jan 12, 2009 9:48 PM CST up reply actions

Felton is a combo guard, more like an undersized SG than a true PG

But he would improve the talent in the backcourt. The frontcourt would suffer a bit with Dirk probably playing more time out of position, but Diop’s contract is way too high for what he brings to the floor at the moment.

by Norsktroll on Jan 11, 2009 3:48 PM CST reply actions

Nellieball!

by jonthefon on Jan 11, 2009 4:56 PM CST up reply actions

I'd love to see more Bass in a C...

even though against Shaq-like types he gets owned. I remember him pretty much dominating Duncan last year though…to the point where it looked like Duncan couldn’t stop him, and Timmywas completely inept on offense

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by Walter Sobchak on Jan 12, 2009 9:49 PM CST up reply actions

Update

According to the Charlotte Observer, Nazr Mohammed is also involved, though it doesn’t really say where he will go.

From the article:

The deal Diop signed with the Mavericks is large – four more seasons at an average salary of nearly $6.7 million.

Whether Diop would be an upgrade is debatable. He’s struggled off the bench for the Mavericks, shooting 39 percent – strikingly low for a post player. Backing up Erick Dampier, Diop averages 1.7 points, 3.5 rebounds and 0.73 blocks per game.

I can’t believe we gave him that much money for such little production!

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by Marie on Jan 11, 2009 6:27 PM CST reply actions

That's the "one series wonder"

All that happened because of the 2006 playoff run, and mainly the spurs series. That’s why he is known for being a good defender and all that. He is a good 3rd string center. If he is focused maybe a good backup center. But let’s keep saying that he is a good player so the bobcats can get him and his contract. I hope we can really make this trade happen. Felton would be really good for us now and in the future. And he needs is a winning culture and a few good veteran players to mentor him. Imagine Kidd leading him, and teaching the position all that? With the talent he has, that would be fantastic.

And one more thing, most people tend to look at a trade that solves all of our problems. And that will never happen. That one would not put us as the main contenders for the title. But could really push us ahead of a few teams. We would solve the problem at the sg position with him. Just using Felton at this position would create a lot of chances to the whole team, because you would have 2 good distributors at the same time on the floor and he is also a good finisher, so he wouldn’t be a player that defenses would leave alone. And the best part of it, is that the whole thing doesn’t involve Stack’s contract. So we could use it in the future for other pieces. Also, a player like smith or wilcox would be a instant upgrade over diop.

Plase, someone finds other news …

by hugommorais on Jan 11, 2009 7:50 PM CST up reply actions

agreed

Donnie would redeem himself at least a bit if he can make this trade happen.

by kumizi on Jan 11, 2009 8:33 PM CST up reply actions

You gotta take this trade..

Make Felton your starting PG. You get rid of Stackhouse and that stupid Diop contract. May can walk next year (if i am correct in my thinking that he is in his last year) and you can also move Jkidd for some other pieces to rebuild. We should have started rebuilding last year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by mrichardson70 on Jan 12, 2009 12:38 AM CST reply actions