Diop Traded for Matt Carroll and Ryan Hollins

by Wes Cox on Jan 17, 2009 1:24 AM CST in Trades Comment 16 comments

Dallas has finally made a deal and January 16th etched itself into the Dallas history books. From now until the end of the time, it will be remembered as the day Dallas traded that one backup center to Charlotte for those two other guys. Although I suppose in ten years there might be someone out there who will be able to tell you the actual trade was DeSagana Diop for Matt Carroll and Ryan Hollins, but it will be the same guy who can tell you the Mavs took Jay Bilas with the 108th pick of the 1986 draft.

Needless to say this isn't one of the more exciting trades in recent memory. Diop to Charlotte rumors had been popping up for a large part of the season and the most recent incarnation had Diop ending up in Charlotte and Raymond Felton returning to Dallas. To get an idea on how much more interesting that idea was, Felton averages four more ppg than the three players in this deal combined. As a result, this trade was rather anticlimactic.

On the surface, it's hard to argue one way or the other that either Dallas or Charlotte improved their team immediately. Carroll is a shooter who is having the worst shooting year of his career (26.7% from 3). Hollins immediately takes Diop role as the guy to get limited minutes behind Dampier. And Diop has left Dallas before finishing a single year of his recently signed full MLE -- which is what the trade really comes down to.

This deal saves Dallas money. It's a wash this season, but as Diop's contract continues to increase until 2013 Carroll's will steadily decrease. By the final year Carroll will be making nearly four million less than Diop. That aspect makes this trade stand on its own, but one can't help but wonder if this is a precusror to something larger.

			FG			3PT			FT			Rebounds			Misc
	G	M	M	A	Pct	M	A	Pct	M	A	Pct	Off	Def	Tot	Ast	TO	Stl	Blk	PF	PPG
2008 - DeSagana Diop	34	13.3	0.6	1.7	37.9	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.4	0.9	41.4	1.3	2.1	3.5	0.4	0.3	0.4	0.7	1.6	1.6

			FG			3PT			FT			Rebounds			Misc
	G	M	M	A	Pct	M	A	Pct	M	A	Pct	Off	Def	Tot	Ast	TO	Stl	Blk	PF	PPG
2008 - Ryan Hollins	18	10.2	1.1	1.9	54.3	0.0	0.0	0.0	1.4	2.2	66.7	1.1	0.9	2.0	0.2	0.6	0.2	0.9	1.9	3.6

			FG			3PT			FT			Rebounds			Misc
	G	M	M	A	Pct	M	A	Pct	M	A	Pct	Off	Def	Tot	Ast	TO	Stl	Blk	PF	PPG
2008 - Matt Carroll	33	14.1	1.7	4.1	40.7	0.4	1.4	26.7	0.5	0.6	78.9	0.2	1.5	1.6	0.7	0.8	0.5	0.2	1.5	4.2

Salaries
	DeSagana Diop	Matt Carroll	Ryan Hollins
08/09	$5,585,000	$5,050,000	$972,581
09/10	$6,031,800	$4,700,000	-
10/11	$6,478,600	$4,300,000	-
11/12	$6,925,400	$3,900,000	-
12/13	$7,372,200	$3,500,000	-

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You can tell the Mavericks suck!

They make a trade and not a single comment is made about the move. No one cares what the Mavericks are doing right now. They really need to start moving some of these parts, and Hollins and Carroll are not the answers!

by mrichardson70 on Jan 17, 2009 1:45 AM CST reply actions

You sir, are a fucking idiot.

There’s a fanpost talking about the Diop trade already, Wes only just updated news on the frontpage.

by jonthefon on Jan 17, 2009 2:49 AM CST up reply actions

Man those stats just get me pumped up

I CAN’T WAIT TO SEE THE HOLLINS-CARROLL ERA!!

by Beasticon on Jan 17, 2009 1:50 AM CST reply actions

actually, I can't wait.

I saw the Bobcats game live a few weeks ago, and Hollins is an athletic, active guy – sort of like a Diop that can actually score, it seems.

Carroll has a history of hot shooting – can he pick it up? Hopefully Kidd will help.

but it does all boil down to relieving ourselves of the horrid Diop contract.

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jan 18, 2009 12:38 PM CST up reply actions

So I suppose those 2 pts and what? 3 rebounds? a game that Diop provided this season thrills you more than what (potentially) Carroll and Hollins could bring? No this trade won’t make the Mavs championship contenders, but it damn sure can’t hurt either.

by Cynthia56 on Jan 17, 2009 2:35 AM CST reply actions

Financially the deal is helping the Mavs - after signing Diop to his too long and too expensive deal

http://www.rufusonfire.com/2009/1/16/726336/bobcats-trade-carroll-and

Hollins is two years younger, on a cheap contract and has Diop’s numbers except in rebounds. He has efficient scoring numbers around the basket and from the FT line, has a lot of energy and blocks shots, but is probably a worse overall defender/rebounder and much lighter (230 pounds is not much for a center) so people can push him away easier. His contract expires after this season, so there is no financial risk involved.

Carroll is overpriced and the Bobcats needed to get rid of him since he wouldn’t lead them anywhere, but he isn’t a bad throw in as an additional role player and his contract is declining every year as he gets older. Another team might like him later in a deal, albeit his contract is loooooooooooooooooooong. Meet the first player signed through 2012/13 on the Mavs if nothing happens (early termination option for that season). He also brings some energy, but I doubt he should start over guys like Green, and I haven’t seen him play good defense since he is long yet laterally slow. I would consider him more like a Kyle Korver/Jason Kapono/James Jones at best, wing player who can make the outside shot (which is off this year so far as Wes noted).

by Norsktroll on Jan 17, 2009 5:13 AM CST reply actions

I would take a Kyle Korver/Jason Kapono on this team...

with a chance to improve that shot.

what was Hollins like in college? a friend and I were talking last night, we’ve seen a lot of UCLA guys come out the past few years, and we don’t even remember his name…was he good? young? average? older?

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jan 18, 2009 12:41 PM CST up reply actions

The Mavs FO is good

at admitting their mistakes and correcting them early. You would hope they don’t make mistakes at all, but unlike other front offices, they don’t keep defending their bad decisions and throwing good money after bad.

Signature! I don't need no stinking signature!!

by DerekSTheRed on Jan 17, 2009 8:54 AM CST reply actions

I think this move was made just to get Diop's contract off the books.

With that being said, this confirms that the Mavericks want part of the 2010 free agent pool.

I have witnessed time and time again.

by srdmad on Jan 17, 2009 10:02 AM CST reply actions

They save some money especially if they let Hollins walk, but Carroll's contract runs through 2012/13

Matt Carroll’s [remaining salary] is $4.7 million, $4.3 million, $3.9 million, and then $3.5 million. […]
Diop’s is $6.0 million, $6.5 million, $6.9 million, and then $7.4 million.

by Norsktroll on Jan 17, 2009 10:47 AM CST up reply actions