The Trade Idea Thread
by nowitzkidd on Jan 22, 2009 7:01 PM CST
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PrintThe Mavs would be trading Shawne Williams, Stackhouse and Josh Howard to the Bucks for Michael Redd and Ramon Sessions.
In Sessions, you get a decent backup point guard to Kidd, as well as have him available to groom to be the future starter.
In Redd, the Mavs get a lights out shooter who can also attack the basket.
In our opinion (there are two people to use this profile, in case you didn't know), this is a great deal for the Mavs.
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this is a great deal for the mavs
but the Bucks prob dont have any room for JHo or Stack as they already have Jefferson and Villunueva.
In reference to how good the Steelers have been in their history: "No one is even close to them."- Steal Home
Can we keep all "trade scenarios" in one massive thread?
Then we could just fire away consistently.
I’d like to see this deal made but I don’t really see why the Bucks would do it, it’s basically placing all the responsibilities at PG on pretty much one person, Luke Ridnour.
yeah thats true
but they do have Charlie Bell, Damon Jones and Tyronne Lue who are all capable backups for them. Whatever trade Dallas makes i’m pretty sure they will make some sort of deal pretty soon
NowitzKidd
So is it true or not?
Don’t be agreeable
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
This is...
Just a trade possibility we tested, although we know that the mavericks have taken alot of interest in Redd, so hopefully it will culminate.
NowitzKidd
Sessions is much better than you guys think he is.
He will probably end up being a starting point guard and most likely a good one. Redd is the Bucks best player and they could get the eighth spot in the East. I don’t think they would trade these two to get Howard, Stackhouse, and Williams. Though I would very much like to get Redd and Sessions.
I have witnessed time and time again.
Sessions
Is an All-Star waiting to happen, so much talent that gets very little time to shine.
Smell it, taste it.
by Tastypoopies on Jan 23, 2009 3:36 PM CST up reply actions
Hmm.
…why? Why would Milwaukee do this, exactly? Getting cap flexibility is nice, but you have to have some value attached to it. Giving away a top SG and a nice young PG for what? The ability to decline Howard’s option or trade him in a year? Doesn’t make much sense to me.
They’d be better off swapping Jefferson and Sessions for Howard and Williams. That way, they shave off a year of heavy financial commitment for only the price of a talented, but probably not outstanding, young player.
Yes, but after a look at Jefferson's contract.
Dallas ain’t doing that trade.
I have witnessed time and time again.
I'm sure you're right.
I wouldn’t do either of those trades.
by brettgardner on Jan 22, 2009 11:41 PM CST up reply actions
I really like Sessions, though.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
As do I, maybe we should go after Sessions instead of Redd and Sessions?
I have witnessed time and time again.
Not necesarily
If show’s good development to finish the year, you feel a lot better about letting Jason walk.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
I'm much more a fan of Sessions than Redd
Just a little quote from ESPN’s performance coach David Thorpe:
“Ramon Sessions has terrific court sense and timing. He’s the closest thing I’ve seen to Chris Paul on ball screen action, patiently reading the defenders but ready to make his move (pass, dribble burst, or shoot) in the blink of an eye. His on-court demeanor screams veteran, despite his age.”
Some trade scenarios...
DET gets cap relief for 2009 and 2010.
DAL gets rid of Howard and gets starters for SG and SF.
CHI gets rid of Hughes and Noc’s contract.
DAL gets rid of Howard and gets starters for SG and SF.
OKC gets cap immediate cap relief and a young (Bass) player in return.
DAL gets post presence with Collison.
MIN get cap relief for 2009 and a potentially good player in S.Williams.
DAL gets someone who can actually hit from the perimeter beside Dirk and JET.
MIA gets Howard and some cap relief for 2009. Could turn Green to something productive.
DAL gets someone to run with Kidd (they played with each other for one season I think) and Jones is a perimeter gunner.
by Sonic Death Monkey on Jan 23, 2009 4:40 AM CST reply actions
So this is now the official thread for a "barrage of trade proposals"?
-I would be fine with that, I just wonder how Rip will decline and how much of an albatross that contract is eventually going to be. It’s going to cost Cuban a lot to have those two hefty contracts on board.
-Hell no. Hughes is awful and Nocioni and TT are average, plus the former two have bad contracts.
-I don’t really want to deal Bass for that contract Collison has, he’s not really a post threat.
-If we can get Mike Miller for Williams and Stack, that’s a good result for us. I don’t think he’s done yet.
-Again, don’t want anything to do with James Jones’s contract.
I don’t think Dallas should make themselves a deal that involves them taking on a big contract if they’re trading equal value. Not worth it.
JEFF TEAGUE TIME.
I guess this is THE thread. :)
- Point taken but Cuban is not the only owner/GM who wants bargains.
- Sub Hinrich for Noc?Hughes’ contract will expire in 2010.
- That’s the only way,IMO,that we’re getting Collison. How bout subbing Wilcox or J.Smith for Collison? That would be counter productive for OKC though since they both have expiring contracts.
- Kidd will do wonders for Miller.
- I think Jones’ contract has a team option (with non-guaranteed money) for 2010.
by Sonic Death Monkey on Jan 23, 2009 5:44 AM CST up reply actions
Are you trying to ruin this franchise
Hughes and Nocioni?
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Well..
we gotta do something?…my bad,that CHI-DAL trade’s crap.
I’d still take Noc and Hinrich though,at least we’ll have our own Argentinian guy (like SA and Houston) and a starting PG when/if Kidd retires/gets traded/walks for free agency.
by Sonic Death Monkey on Jan 23, 2009 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
I'm not sure
About trading Bass i mean he is one of our most aggressive players and his mind set when he goes to the rim is to simply tear it off he is a pretty good defender and is young and is a great backup for Dirk. I dont think you trade that kind of talent and youth for collison were not feeling that trade
NowitzKidd
I think you should clarify who is speaking when you say "I'm not sure" now I'm confused.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jan 23, 2009 9:59 AM CST up reply actions
sorry
we are actually brothers and we decided to do this together so we are sorry for all the confusion
NowitzKidd
I like the Miller trade and that's it.
Three of those trades have players with bad contracts coming here and the other one we are getting Collison, wheather we have him or Bass, it won’t change anything.
I have witnessed time and time again.
Why do 2 people use one screename?
just create another one, it’s not hard.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
That's what really stuck out to me in this post, as well.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Yeah
I just don’t get that.
Side note — is it possible on SBN to do IP Bans? Just curious b/c of the trolls over at LSB.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jan 23, 2009 1:27 PM CST up reply actions
Ah, OK
that explains it a little bit.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jan 23, 2009 7:34 PM CST up reply actions
RJ/1st for Howard/Singleton?
Hey guys,
The only benefit of trading Redd is so you can re-sign Sessions/CV, so I don’t see them being packaged together unless you get a clear upgrade, which Howard isn’t. On the other hand, swapping RJ for Howard/expirings saves the Bucks $3.3 million next year that they can use to re-sign Sessions/CV. I’m not sure there’s much difference talent-wise, though I also don’t know if the Bucks’ 2009 first is enough for Cuban to bite on RJ’s bigger contract (dealbreaker?). The Bucks will likely shop the hell out of that pick if they have any hopes of keeping Sessions/CV.
The Bucks are in a weird spot because there’s a lot of pressure to make the playoffs and start regaining some fan support given the need for a new arena and empty seats. Yet the Redd/Bogut/RJ core obviously isn’t talented enough to be a real contender, so they’re caught in that purgatory between contention and rebuilding.
We have Villanueva and Sessions entering restricted free agency this summer, so there’s a pressing need to drop salary to avoid the tax. As it stands now, they can probably only keep one unless the tax jumps a bit from where it is now. And for a team that needs young talent, that’s a tough pill to swallow.
So the decision is to 1) move CV/Sessions for even cheaper talent (not easily done given they don’t make much as is) or 2) move CV/Sessions for veteran talent (difficult because you can’t aggregate their salaries alone into a vet salary) or 3) move one of Redd/RJ for cap relief so you can keep the young guys.
Yes, You're 1st rounder
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
or just your
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
The fact that we don't have hardley any contract obligations past 2010
And RJ does have talent, and is still fairly young.. Taking on his contract wouldn’t hurt too much.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Also
Why so much concern for CV? He’s definitely a nice player, and has enough talent to be a contributor on a really good team, but is he the guy you want to give the whole MLE to?
by brettgardner on Jan 23, 2009 2:44 PM CST up reply actions
Brett, that’s the six million dollar question. Personally, I don’t think he is consistent enough offensively or strong enough defensively to be a 35 mpg guy, and I don’t think Skiles and Hammond want to commit big money to him long term. I was perfectly fine with the rumored deal a few weeks ago about possibly moving him to Houston for Carl Landry. But in general moving him without taking a long-term deal is kind of tough. And in the short-term the Bucks would need a PF coming back since we’re so thin there.
I could definitely live with signing him to a $5-6 million deal for two or three years, but if he continues to play well it’s possible another team would offer him a bigger deal in the hopes that the Bucks are afraid too match. It’s also possible he takes the QO ($4.6 mil) and becomes unrestricted the following summer.
by Frank Madden on Jan 23, 2009 3:43 PM CST up reply actions
We could go after just Redd instead of just Sessions.
We could give you Howard, Stackhouse, and Bass.
I have witnessed time and time again.
Wow, Redd torn ACL
That sucks. Just when they were starting to play some decent basketball.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
No Redd and Jefferson,
makes that first rounder look much better.
I have witnessed time and time again.
So...
You guys need to pull the Trigger on this… or have a 3 team trade.. and we (the Blazers) will send you OUTLAW for brandon bass.
I would take Outlaw for Bass
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
i wouldnt unless
we got rid of another player because you are basically adding another swingman onto a team full of them
In reference to how good the Steelers have been in their history: "No one is even close to them."- Steal Home
It will give us a deeper bench
It would consist on a trade with the knicks. Yeah the knicks have there eyes set on J-Kidd and want cap relief and the mavs see that the J-Kidd experiment just didnt have its championship effect.
Mavs get:
Chris Duhon, Jared Jeffries and Eddy Curry
knicks get:
J-Kidd and James Singleton
For me it makes a lot of sense since Duhon is having a good year.He is averaging 12.6 ppg (4 more than J-K), 8.0 ast(.6 less than Kidd) and almost 4 rips( 3 less than kidd). He is younger and his contract runs out in 2010.
Jeffries should fit perfectly in the 3 spot. In him a see the defensive stopper that we need he can guard any position but he would come most handy for guarding somebody like kobe or even annoy cp3 and if it doesnt work his contract runs out in 2010.
The only bad thing is Ecurry may he can be solid backup and his contract runs out 2011
In my eyes we get more depth and we get a bit younger. It also allows us making a big splash for the 2010 free agent market and sign another superstar to play alongside dirk
After the trade the lineup should look like this:
1-Chris duhon
2-Josh howard(he can play the 2 spot you know it)
3-Jared Jeffries
4- Dirk
5-Erick “the biggest waste of money” Dampier
the bench:
J.J Barea
The jet but trade him anyway
Stack( he is still useful but trade him anyway)
BBass
Ecurry
NO!
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Hmm ...
Do you really think this is a good trade? First, you need to know that Duhon’s numbers are inflated by something like 20%. Because of the pace the Knicks are playing right now they have a lot more possessions per game and that makes everybody’s numbers go up close to that margin. For evidence, look at Quentin Richardson, Nash and Marion. I would rather have Kidd at 40 than Duhon at any age. He is a very good backup PG, not a leading PG.
Also, we all saw what happened when Josh played the SG position this year, he sucked a lot. Jeffries almost never is healthy, also he is close to Devean George’s level of offensive suckness (just made that word I think). And we have enough players that can’t score with consistency, we don’t need another. And by the way, he is not that great a defensive player. Maybe Curry could be of some use here as a center that can score with consistency when healthy. But we would need to put every car driver in Dallas out of his sight :P. To me, that trade would make the mavericks worse.
Kidd is playing at a high level and I don’t think our problems are there. Look at the teams that won championships and all that, they all don’t need a Chris Paul to win. They need a good balance of talent in all positions. Rajon Rondo is not a fantastic PG by any means, but the Celtics have Pierce, Allen and KG there, what I want to say is that, if you want to fill a hole in the mavericks start looking at the 2 guard and center positions. I think that all we need is a player like Mike Miller playing the 2. If we could find a way to get him trading something like Stack’s contract, Williams and Bass or anything close to that, maybe changing Bass for someone else, that would make the mavs contenders again. But it’s hard.
Nice try, but that would not help us, unless you want to start rebuilding and only wants to think about 2010, if that’s the case let’s go trade Dirk, Josh and Jet too.
by hugommorais on Jan 24, 2009 11:49 AM CST up reply actions
nah
we dont think kidd fr Duhon is a very good trade duhon is a solid player and we would love to get him if we did not have to give up kidd. yeah kidd is getting up there in age but he is still a great playmaker and 3 point shooter we think the people that need to be traded is stack and jho not kidd
NowitzKidd
go away
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jan 25, 2009 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
If I did
would you write an incoherent angry fanpost about it?
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jan 26, 2009 10:48 AM CST up reply actions
Jeffries has a player option for 2011
And at this point, he’ll be picking that up. This trade would be doing the Knicks a gigantic favor, that’s about it.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
What draft picks do we have this year and next and which ones can we trade?
That would give me more ideas.
I have witnessed time and time again.
I dont know
But this year’s draft is looking very strong and very deep. I really hope we can pick up another 1st rounder, even if it’s not in the lottery.
OT: So, if OKC adds Greg Monroe.. Who would you take?
Westbrook, Green, Durant, and Monroe.. or
Bayless, Roy, Aldridge, and Oden
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Give me the latter
because in Portland, there will be a better supporting cast with players such as Outlaw, Rodriguez and Webster
In reference to how good the Steelers have been in their history: "No one is even close to them."- Steal Home
This year 2009 draft Dallas own first round pick
Can’t trade this, under the Ted Stepien rule you can’t trade away first round picks in consecutive years (unless we would get someone else’s 2009 first round pick back in the same trade). In 2010 we have no first round pick again (Jason Kidd trade). We also don’t have second round picks.
2009 second round draft pick to Indiana
Dallas’ own 2009 2nd round pick to Indiana [Dallas – Indiana, 10/10/2008]
2010 first round draft pick to New Jersey
Dallas’ own 2010 1st round pick to New Jersey. [Dallas – New Jersey, 2/19/2008]
2010 second round draft pick to Indiana
Dallas’ own 2010 2nd round pick to Indiana, provided, however, that Dallas shall have the option to defer this pick until 2011 at which time Dallas would then send it’s own 2011 2nd round pick to Indiana [Dallas – Indiana, 10/10/2008]
So we have no picks that we can trade.
Good move front office.
I have witnessed time and time again.
Phoenix may trade Stoudemire
according to CNN
http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/87514-suns-consider-trading-stoudemire?eref=fromSI
Mavs need to trade howard and whoever else necessary (besides dirk and terry) to get him!
Right...
Who wouldn’t love trading for a worse player!?
by brettgardner on Jan 24, 2009 9:59 PM CST up reply actions
No
I meant from their perspective, obviously. Amare is a vastly superior player.
by brettgardner on Jan 24, 2009 11:36 PM CST up reply actions
Can you guys believe these people at brightsideofthesun. They are saying let's trade Amar'e for Dirk.
http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2009/1/24/735534/saturday-swap-shop
I have witnessed time and time again.
I read all of their comments
They really want it to happen and seem to think it can be done
"Poor guy is probably out there without a flipper, swimming around in a circle, freaking out his whole family."
If Dirk is traded, it has to be like a franchise player
Amare is hardly that
"Poor guy is probably out there without a flipper, swimming around in a circle, freaking out his whole family."
I meant we need to receive a franchise guy in return
Sorry
"Poor guy is probably out there without a flipper, swimming around in a circle, freaking out his whole family."
Yeah I know
But why would you trade a franchise player to get a franchise player?
If a team had a young franchise player under control for longer, why would they trade him for Dirk?
by brettgardner on Jan 24, 2009 11:41 PM CST up reply actions
Because most Suns fans
seem to be sick of Amare’s perceived plodding on both offense and defense.
But that shouldn’t really be the reason, I guess…
JEFF TEAGUE TIME.
Well
Amare is not equal value for Dirk. Not even close.
Whatever a “franchise player” is, Amare doesn’t fit the definition.
But I don’t think Marie had him in mind when talking about getting a franchise player in return.
by brettgardner on Jan 25, 2009 12:24 AM CST up reply actions
Trading Dirk??
I had thoughts about trading Dirk earlier in the season to kick off the rebuilding process. After thinking about it, I cannot even believe that I would think of Trading him. He is without a doubt a top 5 player in this league. Without him we would be one of the worst teams in the NBA. We need to be patient this year and and add key players around him again the next two seasons. Look at what Boston did in a short period of time.
by mrichardson70 on Jan 25, 2009 1:41 AM CST up reply actions
Exactly...
Look how the Lakers rebounded once they get Gasol on the cheap, and how Boston all of the sudden went from worst in the league to best in one season. There’s always the possibility of that one trade happening that will put a team with a superstar that needs help, over the top. It seems like player movement like that would never happen, but recent history says otherwise. Dirk deserves to win his championship in the city he put his blood, sweat and tears into for the last decade.
Boston was able to turn it around because they had assets to trade
A good young center in Al Jefferson for Garnett and a top 8 pick for Allen. The Mavericks don’t have many assets.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
they also had kevin mchale who is secretly in love with
daniel ainge
by mrichardson70 on Jan 25, 2009 11:47 AM CST up reply actions
Al Jefferson
The trade was bashed at the time, but in hindsight, could the Timberwolves have gotten a more valuable player?
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
I thought
It was a fantastic trade at the time, and I still do.
Jefferson and Gomes plus the two 1sts was enough to make it great.
by brettgardner on Jan 26, 2009 9:29 AM CST up reply actions
I did too..
And I wrote Bill Simmons an email expressing my feelings on it.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
two 1st picks
I think it really comes down to the picks. Jefferson is a nice player but he is not Garnett. Gomes is a role player at best to me. I think Minny was jammed up and did the best with a bad situation. Better then maybe could have been expected.
by mrichardson70 on Jan 26, 2009 10:22 AM CST up reply actions
Wha?
There’s no way either of those two picks will be as good as Jefferson.
He’s a lot more than a “nice player”. Minnesota didn’t make a desperation trade, they got fantastic value for a declining player with a gigantic salary.
by brettgardner on Jan 26, 2009 10:32 AM CST up reply actions
Maybe it is a bit of an under statement (Jefferson)
Would you trade a 20 ppg player / a role player / and 2 end of the round picks for 1 (possibly 2) NBA Championships? I would absolutely! Garnett still has 3-4 years left in the tank as well.
by mrichardson70 on Jan 26, 2009 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
Of course the Celtics don't regret it.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
You can make an argument that both teams did well.
I forget the deal that was rumored with Atlanta at the time. I thought that at the time it made more sense for Minny to do that deal. Josh Smith and Childress and 2 picks? Something like that? Atlanta’s picks would be better then Bostons.
by mrichardson70 on Jan 26, 2009 12:08 PM CST up reply actions
You're not getting it right.
They only got one of Boston’s picks. The other was their own pick that they had traded to Boston before.
by brettgardner on Jan 26, 2009 12:20 PM CST up reply actions
So the trade is
Minny gets:
Jefferson
Gomes
(1) Boston 1st round pick
?
by mrichardson70 on Jan 26, 2009 12:25 PM CST up reply actions
Telfair and Green.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
No..
They get 2 firsts, but one of them was theirs originally.
by brettgardner on Jan 26, 2009 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
ok..
a bit confusing.. so they still get 2 picks. they obviously made a trade previously. so that possibly needs to be considered as well. i see telfair and green were included. green worked out well obviously and telfair is a career 38% shooter..
by mrichardson70 on Jan 26, 2009 12:54 PM CST up reply actions
Telfair is improving
He will have a long career as a backup PG.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
23 Years old
still has time on his side!
by mrichardson70 on Jan 26, 2009 1:19 PM CST up reply actions
Heck no...
I’d be pissed if the Mavs traded Dirk to Phoenix for Amare. That would be another episode of rape if Cuban let that happen. On top of that, I just can’t imagine Dirk in another team’s jersey ever, especially the Suns (I hate Phoenix except for Nash). I pray that the MBT can get the right pieces here either this year or next to give the Mavs a fair shot at the championship WITH Dirk.
I cannot see Cuban (ever) trading Dirk away
epecially since he will not move JHoward (at least based on the latest Cuban reports)!
by mrichardson70 on Jan 25, 2009 2:29 AM CST up reply actions
And last year he laughed when people said we should trade Devin Harris..
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
not for dirk
but i was over on that blog and this proposal really made me LOL
clevelend
Lorenzen Wright
Anderson Varejao
Wally Szczerbiak
for
Amare
Barbosa
and we’ve got a lot of cup room for lee, boozer ect
by Dempson_PL on Jan 24, 2009 3:46 PM EST reply reply actions actions 0 recs
In reference to how good the Steelers have been in their history: "No one is even close to them."- Steal Home
I would love to see Amare and Lebron paired up
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
That has to be the single most onesided trade in history
"Only dunk and go to the defense." Rudy Fernandez
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 29, 2009 9:31 PM CST up reply actions
The Wizards are pretty bad, do they have any players you guys would want?
I have witnessed time and time again.
Caron Butler
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Yeah, I already asked about him and they wouldn't take Howard, Bass, and Green for him.
I read another post there about them trying to stay under the tax, so I don’t think they would take anyone who has a contract past this year besides, Howard.
http://www.bulletsforever.com/2009/1/22/731705/will-ernie-blow-this-team
I have witnessed time and time again.
I like McGee
and speaking of young big men, Jordan had 20 boards tonight. Clips can’t keep em’ all..
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
I wish Kaman would get healthy
Because I feel like he will be a Mav if he can before the deadline. And I almost think they would prefer Terry over Howard in the deal.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
The Wizards would be smart to see what they have in Young.
10 points in just over 20 minutes a game.
by mrichardson70 on Jan 26, 2009 12:28 AM CST up reply actions
Boozer = Injuries
I’d take Jackson if that dumb Rowell guy didn’t extend his contract.
Let’s do this trade. Joe D wants to hoard cap space for 2009 and 2010,the Mavs can give that to him.
by Sonic Death Monkey on Jan 26, 2009 3:29 AM CST up reply actions
That's ridiculous.
That’s not anywhere near equal value, even considering the relief.
by brettgardner on Jan 26, 2009 9:33 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah
It would really take something good to pry Prince from Detroit.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Utah says yes to Howard for Boozer.
http://www.slcdunk.com/2009/1/15/724804/i-m-torn-on-mr-boozer
I have witnessed time and time again.
Wow
Yesterday’s top 10, #1, wow. Josh Smith.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
i cant pretend that that didnt bring a smile to my face
that was amazing
In reference to how good the Steelers have been in their history: "No one is even close to them."- Steal Home
Seems like he does something like that at least once a week.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
He's improving
He has gotten better each year in the league. He has taken a small step backwards this year, from last, but there is a lot of year left.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Don't know if anybody's seen this
But the DMN runs down the Mavs’ commodities and formulates a couple hypothetical scenarios.
With the exception of Damp and Stack for O’Neal—and why would Toronto do that?—they’re all pretty vomit-inducing. It’s clear that big Ed values these Dallas players very lowly.
Case in point: Howard and Bass to Memphis for Conley and Darko….yep. Don’t get me wrong—I’d love to acquire Conley, but that’s just silly.
Hey
When the Mavs are playing like they are right now, I’ll take what I can get.
by brettgardner on Jan 26, 2009 7:02 PM CST up reply actions
A team that has Maxiell, Amir, and McDyess
When does Bass play?
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Heh.
I guess when you’re a fan of a guy, none of that stuff matters.
by brettgardner on Jan 26, 2009 7:05 PM CST up reply actions
And I guess he thinks Mayo is a PG
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Atlanta needs Erick Dampier
What would you want back from them? Would you take Pachulia, Claxton, and a 1st round pick?
Do you like Law? I’m not sure how they feel about him. Law, Claxton, and a couple of expiring contracts
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
I like Law a lot.
Pachulia is a solid defender, which is about the only thing you can ask from centers, plus we get Claxton and a first rounder, I would take this deal. I don’t think the Hawks would trade Law, knowing that Bibby is a free agent. What about Marvin Williams and Pachulia for Dampier?
I have witnessed time and time again.
Never mind on my trade suggestion,
I thought Williams came off the bench for Atlanta, meaning that it wouldn’t be huge impact.
I have witnessed time and time again.
I would
They wouldn’t. Why do they need Damp? He helps out in the middle, and he’s still a salty rebounder, but I don’t think he’s the piece that puts them over the top by any means.
FWIW, my skepticism of Griffin before the season has vanished. He’s legit.
by brettgardner on Jan 26, 2009 11:48 PM CST up reply actions
To me, if you add Erick Dampier and a solid backup PG (preferably Acie)
Atlanta is right there with Orlando is the 2nd best team in the east.
I’m not a total believer in Griffin yet, at least not as the #1 pick.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
And I still think Earl Clark may have the most potential in this draft.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
But Monroe should go 1st
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Griffin is Hansbrough with hops
Clark reminds me a lot of Aldridge and Rudy Gay in college, all the potential in the world, but too passive to dominate.. the ability is there, though.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Come on.
If I were going to point to a player Griffin resembles, it would be a more aggressive Carlos Boozer.
The dude’s got serious post skills, passes the ball well, is athletic and a leader. I don’t see why you’re not sold.
by brettgardner on Jan 27, 2009 11:49 PM CST up reply actions
I need to see him play more
I haven’t seen the post skills yet, but my sample size is pretty small. Bigger bodied, stronger Kenyon Martin.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Even if that were so
That’d be a no-brainer 1st overall pick for me. Although I’m not sure where that’s coming from, since I’ve never seen Griffin shoot past 10-12 feet. His brother’s got the range in family from what I’ve seen.
by brettgardner on Jan 28, 2009 12:20 AM CST up reply actions
I've seen him knock down
a three…once. He’s 3-of-6 this season. His college mid-range game looks solid, but I’m not sure how that extends to the NBA
I don’t think he really has Boozer’s post game. From what I’ve seen, his post-ups are mainly to keep his defender in two minds so that he has the opening for a mid-range jumper or to drive in, he usually avoids post moves more complicated than a spin or a fake. I don’t think NBA defenders will give him what he wants as often as he has had so far.
Who knows enough to give Griffin a rating on defense? I can’t really tell whether he’s good enough to be considered a decent defender in the big league.
Elsewhere, I don’t see how you don’t make him a #1 pick. Guy’s a freaking beast: he’s ridiculously athletic, he gets out and finishes on the break, his rebounding skills are second to none, he’s unselfish and a leader. I haven’t seen the killer instinct yet but hey, I guess I have to wait until March. Man, I can’t wait for the tournament: the whole thing appears wide-open.
JEFF TEAGUE TIME.
Right now, my final four would be
Wake Forest, Louisville, UNC, and Georgetown.
Of course that is subject to change..
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
I've got to think
Duke is better than Louisville and Georgetown. I’d probably take them before UNC, and tonight’s game against WF will be huge in shaping my overall opinion of Duke.
I guess I’m just a Dickie V softie who falls for Duke every year.
by brettgardner on Jan 28, 2009 9:54 AM CST up reply actions
See, i'm a Wake Forest softie
I even put that i’m a fan of them in my profile, though I have no connection there whatsoever. Loved Timmie when he was there and Paul is probably my favorite college player of all time. I will have Duke in my elite 8, most likely, depending on match-ups.. they will go how far Gerald Henderson takes them.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Well
I think I won’t have either of those teams past the elite 8
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Great, we went from Dallas Mavericks trade ideas to
who you got in the Final Four. Louisville, Uconn, UNC, and Wake Forest. At the start of the year I had Louisville, Uconn, UNC, and Oklahoma, but I kept an eye on Wake Forest, because they are so young and because of that, their potential was very high.
I have witnessed time and time again.
Louisvill and Georgetown are pretty much locks for me right now,
barring injury or other unforeseen circumstances.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
And Louisville....
Edgar Sosa redemption..
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
I mean, his game in transition and around the basket
Raw athleticism.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Damp value may surprise you.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
He also said Stackhouse could be used with Bass to get
Stephen Jackson. You have got to be kidding me.
I have witnessed time and time again.
Make of this what you will
From Hoopsworld:
Moving Jason Kidd? Lets put the Dallas’ Mavericks record to the side for a moment. Functionally they are not a good basketball team. They are winning some games because they do have talent, but the team is not going anywhere fast and management knows it. The Mavericks have been one of the more aggressive teams in looking for a deal, and a recent conversation with a source very close to the situation revealed some interesting notes… Josh Howard and Rick Carlisle do not get along, the source said Howard is clearly in Carlisle’s doghouse and that the two are not on good terms, hence why Josh’s name continues to be tossed about in trade rumors. The other revelation that emerged this week is that Dallas may trade Jason Kidd before the deadline. A league source labeled moving Jason as the likely surprise deal of the trade season, which would be an interesting move for the Mavericks that is pretty easy to justify given Jason’s play. Kidd is owed $21 million this season, the last season on his deal. Kidd’s ending contract may be far more attractive than his value as a player, but it will be interesting to see what Dallas does with just 22 days to make a deal.
Poopsworld
They also already rumored this year that the Blazers had all but acquired Mike Conley (not happening), and just yesterday that we would move LaFrentz to Sactown for friggin John Salmons and Kenny Thomas/Miki Moore (why? Stupid contracts and no upgrade). So yeah, take everything they and Sam Smith and Peter Vecsey report with a big load of salt.
Oh, and can we retire the phrase “not going anywhere fast”?
John Salmons would upgrade them at the SF
til’ Batum is ready, and Kenny Thomas’ contract will expire after next year and be extremely valuable for teams going into the 10’ offseason.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
How about this trade...
POR-DAL
Portland Recives:
Josh Howard
Jerry Stackhouse
James Singleton
Gerald Green
Shawne Williams
Dallas Recieves:
Jerryd Bayless
Raef LaFrentz
LaMarcus Aldridge
Travis Outlaw
What about this trade?
ESPN Trade Machine
NowitzKidd
The link was...
supposed to be here:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2761200628738023038298334174542015&teams=22222222226666&te=&cash=
NowitzKidd
Just stop.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
You both own Josh Howard jersey shirts, don't you?
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
As a Blazers fan, I have to disappoint you
Aldridge doesn’t leave Portland unless it’s for Amare or Bosh. Maybe Millsap, but probably not. That’s how high the team values him. Also they don’t need a multi-player deal, smaller deals make more sense. Josh Howard on his own might be interesting for his perimeter defense, but don’t expect more than a package around Outlaw or Webster and the expiring contract of Raef back.
Something like this, maybe, but either team might say no.
Maybe Millsap
??????
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
DO THIS TRADE
Gerald Green was in the dunk contest Norsk. When was the last time A Blazer was in the dunk contest? Oh wait…..
"Only dunk and go to the defense." Rudy Fernandez
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 29, 2009 9:35 PM CST up reply actions
I would need Toronto's 1st rounder in that deal.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
I agree.
I would need a first round pick, because of O’Neal’s injury concerns for the rest of the season. If he goes down, who are we left with? We would need another center if we did this trade. Stackhouse for Darko?
I have witnessed time and time again.
That's a fair deal
but still feel something’s missing on Toronto’s side of the deal…
JEFF TEAGUE TIME.
Meh...
After everything settles, it’s essentially a salary dump, and, if given a choice between dumping Howard for an expiring and dumping Howard for at least a talented young player (insert Conley or whomever else—not Felton), then I’d take the latter.
If there are no acceptable young players to be had, then I love that deal. Toronto would need at least something else, since they’re giving away huge relief for Howard, who, frankly, isn’t worth it. Bass or Barea, perhaps?
by brettgardner on Jan 28, 2009 5:38 PM CST up reply actions
I disagree
Hoopshype shows O’Neals contract running through next year. Even if it doesnt. there is no way Toronto needs more in that deal, since both conrtracts they are getting can expire next year, when they really need it. They’re getting the better 2 players, right now.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Neither expires
They’re just not fully guaranteed.
by brettgardner on Jan 28, 2009 9:33 PM CST up reply actions
all i know is that
JO would give mavs the post scoring they so badly need… JO isn’t needed by raptures any more cuz of Barnarni’s play as of late. Parker is an extremely talented player who would give the mavs a scoring threat at the 2 guard and play defense against all of the great 2 guards that are in the west. Wright could start at the three if needed. JHO would be a great fresh start for josh and he would be bosh’s right hand man in Toronto.
Look at JO's game log this year
Not exactly a scoring threat, right now, and Parker is like 34.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
So
Assuming Damp’s conditions aren’t met… will he be a free agent after next year?
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Serious question.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Probably.
I think if it were any other year we’d keep him though.
by brettgardner on Jan 29, 2009 9:05 AM CST up reply actions
two trade scenarios and the starting lineups, be the judge
mavs get:
Drew gooden
kirk hinrich
larry hughes
bulls get:
jkidd
james singleton
stackhouse
mavs lineup:
kirk hinrich
larry hughes
josh howard
dirk
dampier
jj barea
the jet
george
bbass
gooden
second scenario
mavs get:
chris duhon
wylson chandler
david lee
jared jeffries
knicks get:
dirk
lineup:
jkidd
chandler or howard
howard or chandler
lee
dampier
duhon
wright
jeffries
bbass
hollins
both match perfectly salary wise
i think the first deal is the best but the second is just a great gamble
first one isnt horrible
but if your going to trade dirk then you are going to be thinking bout the future…and that trade isn’t good at all. If they trade dirk they are getting one or two very young stud players and prob someone older or bigger contract to make the cap work, and a first rounder.
I hate Drew Gooden
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
I hate Drew Gooden
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
that is really negative
we are a positive “fanpost” here!
by mrichardson70 on Jan 29, 2009 4:09 PM CST up reply actions
it makes sense
the first trade would be great for both teams
Mavs get better cause hinrich eventually will bounce back and hes a good defeder( ask dwade)
larry hughes gives us a better sg cause hes a great finisher and a great defender(think washingtons larry hughes)
gooden gives us a deeper bench and can play the 5
it makes sense for the bulls cause it would give them some cap space and two mentors.kidd can teach d-rose a lot of things and stack will help those young wing players with his leadership
james singleton well another role player?
I wouldn't touch Larry Hughes with a 10 foot pole
Or Heinrich for that matter, because of his contract. Hughes would at least have value next year.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
If we trade Howard
How do you feel about signing Tony Allen to play SF next season?
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
You're right
He’s only 6-4, a big bodied 6-4, though. I think he’s a guy whose best days in the league are ahead of him.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
the difference from past teams
Other teams wanted our bench players.
Now we take players other teams don’t want!
Singletons, Bareas, Williams and Wrights of the world.. They are playing out their contracts and will be gone!
From DallasBasketball.com...
Here is the story:
http://www.dallasbasketball.com/fullColumn.php?id=1281
Here is the trade machine:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=17656142006802&teams=662121&te=&cash=
He proposes a trade with us and phoenix:
J-Ho/Stack for Shaq/Matt Barnes
What do you all think of that?
NowitzKidd
If we could then put together a deal for Rip Hamilton
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
f'ing injuries have killed the trade market so far
Hopefully Howard’s tender ankles will hold up.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
dont forget about felton...
if augustine comes back playing like he was before he got injured then felton could find his way in a dallas uniform. Larry Brown Nose, dislikes felton as a pg and has a bromance on dj so dont be surprised.
Had a few beers, Got REALLY bored, this is the result...
Note: I do not think this is in ANY way realistic, but Hoopshype.com and ESPN’s trade machine are fun tools to waste the night with.
Trade #1:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=30556092873298334173204454&teams=2222226666&te=&cash=
Portland gets: Dirk, Singleton, Barea
Dallas gets: Aldridge, Fernandez, Bayless, Lafrentz, possible draft pick
PG: Kidd, Bayless
SG: Fernandez, Terry, Carroll, Stackhouse
SF: Howard, Wright, Green, Williams, George
PF: Aldridge, Bass
C: Dampier, LaFrentz, Hollins
Trade #2:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2745276180230001726&teams=23232366&te=&cash=
Sacramento gets: Bass, Stackhouse, Green, 2nd round pick, Cash
Dallas gets: Salmons, Douby
PG: Kidd, Bayless, Douby
SG: Fernandez, Terry, Carroll
SF: Howard, Salmons, Wright, Williams, George
PF: Aldridge
C: Dampier, LaFrentz, Hollins
Trade #3:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=26720062746851&teams=272766&te=&cash=
Washington Gets: Josh Howard, Devean George
Dallas Gets: Andray Blatche, Etan Thomas, future #1
PG: Kidd, Bayless, Douby
SG: Fernandez, Terry, Carroll
SF: Salmons, Wright, Williams
PF: Aldridge, Blatche, LaFrentz
C: Dampier, Thomas, Hollins
Kidd, Lafrentz, Douby take $35.5 Million off the books after this year.
Thomas and Dampier take another $17 Million off after the 2009-10 season.
After the 2009 season:
Bayless- $2.9 Million
Fernandez- $1.25 Million
Terry- $10.6 Million
Carroll- $4.3 Million
Salmons- $5.8 Million
Blatche- $3.3 Million
Aldridge- $7.6 Million Qualifying Offer
Williams- $3.4 Million Qualifying Offer
That is roughly $28.15 Million in guaranteed money to 6 players (Bayless, Fernandez, Terry, Carroll, Salmons, Blatche). That would be $30 million under this year’s cap.
That leaves room to sign Aldridge long-term, pay your draft picks, fill in some roster spots, and be able to make a run at one of the big boys of the 2010 FA class with a talented roster in place.
PG- Bayless
SG- Fernandez, Terry, Carroll
SF- Salmons
PF- Aldridge
C- Blatche
Added to that would be the 2009 Mavs first rounder, 2010 Wizards first rounder, and possibly a 2009 or 2010 pick from the Blazers. Obviously some mid-level signings would fill out the roster as well.
Don't you ever damn call here again
If the Wizards gave us their first round pick this year, which they might do to try to stay under the tax,
I would make that trade.
I have witnessed time and time again.
The Wizards first-rounder this year
is pure gold if it ain’t lottery-protected. That’s very close to Blake Griffin, Earl Clark, Hasheem Thabeet, Ricky Rubio, etc.
JEFF TEAGUE TIME.
Howard for Etan Thomas, Brendan Haywood, and their first round pick this year.
The Wizards would have less salary committed to next, staying under the tax, and they would not have to trade any of their young/good players,unless you count the draft pick.
I have witnessed time and time again.
With the Wizards
They probably have no need for Howard unless they think he and/or Butler can play the 2. But, if they did show some interest, I think the Mavs would insist on Thomas (to match the contracts and he comes off the books in the magical 2010 offseason), Blatche/Young (good young talent), and a 1st rounder. The question is when that first rounder would be and how the protection for it would work.
Don't you ever damn call here again
This is what bulletsforever had as the lineup in their last game.
PG: Mike James
SG: Caron Butler
SF: Dominic McGuire
PF: Antawn Jamison
C: Darius Songaila
I have witnessed time and time again.
Washington won't improve as a team until they solidify the center position.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
I would think having Howard and Arenas
instead of McGuire and James would improve their team. Center isn’t the only problem.
I have witnessed time and time again.
They've always been a team of guards
They won’t take the next step without a big man.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
True that they won't take the next step with a big man,
but they will improve once Arenas comes back, whenever that is.
I have witnessed time and time again.
I know he plays there a lot
But in a perfect world, Jamison is not a 4.
by brettgardner on Feb 1, 2009 11:26 PM CST up reply actions
Nope
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Amare is officially on the block
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Aspyq6sWAK5dihamTsnJ63e8vLYF?slug=aw-stoudemiresuns020509&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Looks like they’re having a fire sale, too.
My best bet
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Blazers trade
I'm afraid Chiekh Samb's kids are going to be born ducking
by GreatOden'sRaven on Feb 5, 2009 3:08 PM CST reply actions
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