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Chris Bosh to Dallas before the Deadline? ...

Dimemag says Bosh won't resign with toronto

If that's true what do you people think would be needed to get him? Something like Howard, Bass, Stack for Bosh and Anthony Parker? Toronto may lose him without compensation if they keep him until 2010. Now, that would be the big trade promised by Donnie Nelson. We could open a hole at the SF position, but it has to be done to get Bosh. What do you think?

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trade anyone but Dirk to make it happen.

by smg31085 on Feb 2, 2009 10:30 AM CST reply actions  

Not gonna happen

We don’t have the assets

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Feb 2, 2009 11:13 AM CST reply actions  

I could see the Knicks pulling it off

Maybe David Lee, Nate, and a 1st round pick.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Feb 2, 2009 11:14 AM CST reply actions  

I could see the Warriors being big time players for Bosh, actually

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Feb 2, 2009 11:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Do you think ...

That Lee, Nate and a 1st rounder is better than: Josh, Stack, Bass? … Stack gives some cap relief, Josh is still a little bit young and his contract expires before 2010, Bass has a lot of upside. Lee and Nate have his number inflated by D’Anthony’s system. And also, the Knicks have any picks left? …

by hugommorais on Feb 2, 2009 11:54 AM CST up reply actions  

I think Lee and Nate can play for anybody

Nate is instant offense off the bench, and Lee is a very solid PF. I’m not sure of the Knicks pick situation, though.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Feb 2, 2009 12:32 PM CST up reply actions  

That's no good.

Miami could give up Beasley, Marion, and maybe a future 1st for Bosh and Kapono.

by brettgardner on Feb 2, 2009 11:58 AM CST up reply actions  

How about the Warriors, though......

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Feb 2, 2009 11:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Nope.

They might have enough talent to make it work, but the only way to make the money work is to give Toronto incredibly long contracts back. I don’t think they’d want some 6 and 5 year deals coming to them.

by brettgardner on Feb 2, 2009 12:01 PM CST up reply actions  

They may take Beidrins, Belinelli, and Wright or Randolph

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Feb 2, 2009 12:03 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd love to see Ellis and Bosh paired up.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Feb 2, 2009 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Nelly can get that dominant big man he has coveted for so long

And I know he’d be willing to trade off the kiddies to get it done.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Feb 2, 2009 12:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Plus

Those guys are definitely Colangelo guys.

by brettgardner on Feb 2, 2009 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Feb 2, 2009 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Why would the Heat trade Beasley?

Way, way too early to give up on the kid…

by N41D on Feb 2, 2009 1:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Not giving up on him if you get Bosh in return...

He’s a nice looking player, but doesn’t appear to have the upside of a Bosh.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Feb 2, 2009 1:12 PM CST up reply actions  

But why trade Beasley for Bosh now...

When you will have the cap room to go out and sign Carlos Boozer this offseason?

There ain’t much difference in the two, and you wouldn’t have to sacrifice Mike Beasley in the process…

Trading all that for Bosh (Matrix/Beasley +) doesn’t make them a legit contender, AND they take back Kapono’s crappy contract for the next two years? Yuck…

I just wouldn’t like that trade much at all if I were a Heat fan… Wait it out… I don’t see the rush to do anything in their situation… Even if they wait til 2010 to sign someone, they’re gonna have a chance to re-sign Wade and STILL have to cap space to draw a Bosh, Amare, etc. and still keep Michael Beasley…

Six months ago Beasley was a superstar prospect that looked like he’d be a franchise cornerstone for ten years… I don’t trade that yet for something I can just as easily have for nothing but cash 6 or 18 months from now, especially when making that move doesn’t put me that much closer to competing for a title this year or next…

by N41D on Feb 2, 2009 1:19 PM CST up reply actions  

A couple things:

1. A best-case scenario for Beasley is Chris Bosh.

2. The thing about having cap space and intent is…it takes two. Just saying we’re clearing space for X isn’t enough. He has to (1) want to sign there, and (2) there can’t be any better offers. You never gamble on a sure bet for an ethereal maybe.

by brettgardner on Feb 2, 2009 2:11 PM CST up reply actions  

not happening

about 20 other teams have more to trade than howard and bass

by kumizi on Feb 2, 2009 12:04 PM CST reply actions  

+1

I have witnessed time and time again.

by srdmad on Feb 2, 2009 12:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Bosh is denying it

“It was a surprise to me and I can’t be responsible for what other people say so …,” said Bosh, his voice trailing off in disgust. "I understand people are entitled to an opinion but making stuff up? We can’t do that.

“Let’s all be fair.”

http://mavsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/02/chris-bosh-shoots-down-espn-report-that.html

Can’t always trust Screamin’ A. Smith!

by Marie on Feb 2, 2009 1:53 PM CST reply actions  

I know

the Bosh stuff is all rumors…but its still fun to speculate possibilities. Plus, I’m bored and ESPN’s trade machine is fun to play with.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=27452006802197761570510&teams=2828286142828&te=&cash=

by smg31085 on Feb 2, 2009 2:36 PM CST reply actions  

huh...

i think Toronto is giving up too much and Dallas and Miami are not giving up enough

by Dirkn on Feb 2, 2009 4:10 PM CST up reply actions  

seems

all the raptors should be concerned with is getting something in return for bosh instead of nothing

Ian Johnson gets on one knee.
Sam Bradford gets on both.

by acho81 on Feb 2, 2009 6:11 PM CST up reply actions  

So, what do you think of Hasheem?

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Feb 3, 2009 8:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Pray Donnie feels the same.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Feb 3, 2009 11:10 AM CST up reply actions  

I'd be higher on him

if he weren’t 7 foot 3.

JEFF TEAGUE TIME.

by jonthefon on Feb 3, 2009 10:49 PM CST up reply actions  

chad ford from espn...

said that a Kidd for Baron and Camby swap would work out for both teams because of Kidds expiring contract and Baron and Camby would really help out dallas.

by Dirkn on Feb 3, 2009 12:35 PM CST reply actions  

Very Intriguing deal

But Baron is scary.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Feb 3, 2009 12:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Pretty fat contract.

And I fear the transition period, but there’s no doubt that the deal makes us better right now.

I think I’d do it, honestly.

by brettgardner on Feb 3, 2009 2:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I know

Baron Davis is truly one of the most talented players of this era, when he actually plays.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Feb 3, 2009 2:33 PM CST up reply actions  

How would you roll out a lineup then?

Baron, scrub SG with Jet off the bench, Josh, Dirk, Camby with 72 mil man Damp off the bench? It would make our payroll incredibly bloated but I guess they look good talent-wise.

JEFF TEAGUE TIME.

by jonthefon on Feb 3, 2009 10:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Damp is very tradeable.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Feb 3, 2009 11:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Who would take him?

The Hawks? There’s no way we’d really get anything back at all, all we want to do is firebomb that salary from the payroll.

JEFF TEAGUE TIME.

by jonthefon on Feb 4, 2009 4:47 AM CST up reply actions  

The Hawks could use him

I think the Lakers may be a great fit with Bynums injury, Miami needs big man help, New Orleans is hurting in the paint

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Feb 4, 2009 7:16 AM CST up reply actions  

And yeah

I’d be happy with salary relief and a contenders 1st round pick.

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Feb 4, 2009 9:01 AM CST up reply actions  

I'd be perfectly happy with that too

…if we did actually get a center better than Damp beforehand.

JEFF TEAGUE TIME.

by jonthefon on Feb 4, 2009 11:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Where do you get the idea that Dampier is tradeable?

I have never heard any rumor of him being traded, ever!

Which to me means he is not tradeable.

Brad Miller is tradeable!

by mrichardson70 on Feb 5, 2009 12:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Actually, I think I read that Cuban said they get inquiries on Damp

quite a bit

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Feb 5, 2009 7:00 AM CST up reply actions  

The only way I could see a trade happening is if we gave

Howard, Bass, Damper, Williams, Stackhouse, and George for Bosh, Parker, and O’Neal. Even then I don’t think it will happen, so I’m not even realistically dreaming of this.

I have witnessed time and time again.

by srdmad on Feb 4, 2009 10:45 PM CST reply actions  

What does Larry Hughes have left on his contract?

Is he healthy?

If we could trade Stackhouse and a role player (Barea or S. Williams) ?

Would he fill the void at the starting shooting guard position? Wright is playing well defensively but is inconsistent on the offensive side.

I am sure Hughes has too much left on his contract to do the trade, but if he is owed only another year then maybe?

by mrichardson70 on Feb 5, 2009 12:37 AM CST reply actions  

no Larry

no Larry

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Feb 5, 2009 7:01 AM CST up reply actions  

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