Kerr "determined" to move Amare before deadline.
by sprite on Feb 5, 2009 5:59 PM CST
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If Kerr and assistant GM David Griffin do trade Stoudemire, a four-time All-Star, they want a combination of expiring contracts, a talented young player – preferably a forward – and draft picks.
Obviously the article goes on to say they'd prefer to deal him to the Eastern conferance. I don't think the Mavs can get him without trading Dirk, but it's fun to think about.
Howard/Bass/Green/Stack for Amare.
Now only if Cuban could get Kerr high.....
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Sleepers: OKC, Memphis, Charlotte
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Oklahoma City is a REAL intriguing possibility...
They’ve got the expiring contracts to work with in Desmond Mason and Chris Wilcox… Young, talented forward in Jeff Green… And they’ve accumulated loads of picks over the next couple of years…
Durant, Amare, and Westbrook, plus somebody like Blake Griffin, Greg Monroe, Jordan Hill, or Hasheem Thabeet in the draft this season?… Nasty…
Same with Memphis
If I were the Suns, I’m calling Memphis and asking for this deal, and swap 1st round picks this year.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Then I'd turn around and offer Nash to New York for David Lee, Gallinari, and Eddy Curry
Conley, JRich, Gay, Lee, and Shaq.
Shaq could be the best thing to ever happen to Curry.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Stay awaaaay.
God damn OKC will be nasty if they get Amare without giving up too many assets
JEFF TEAGUE TIME.
How about this...
ESPN is reporting today that Tyson Chandler could be available, with the Heat possibly sending Marion to NO. How about Josh for Tyson? I would like to see Kidd throwing alley-oops to someone.
Proud graduate of the Kenny Rogers anger management class.
Why would Chandler be available
That’s just stupid.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
New Orleans
Has such a good core. They just a bench worth anything.
Also, you can have a sub-par 2, and you can have Peja, but I don’t think you can have both.
by brettgardner on Feb 6, 2009 11:32 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah
They’re 1 deep at PG/SG. Raja Bell could be a nice addition.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
If anyone has espn insider
Will you blockquote what they say about Chandler in their Trade Rumors.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Let's get Amar'e
give Phoenix some draft picks, wait hold on, we don’t have any. Great move Front Office.
I have witnessed time and time again.
We wouldn't have the pieces for Amare anyways...
Regardless of whether we had the picks or not…
Picks that aren't in the top 10
Aren’t really all that valuable as commodities.
Sure, you collect them if you can, but I don’t think the one thing blocking a Dallas deal with Phoenix is a ~20 draft pick.
by brettgardner on Feb 6, 2009 12:59 PM CST up reply actions
Amare
We have no shot at him (we don’t have the pieces) . This team can not win with this current roster. I don’t like to rehash old stuff but the Kidd trade damaged this franchise for the next decade.
I'm not
Giving up a young All-Star and 2 first round picks for an old J-Kidd. If we kept those 2 picks we could of start the rebuilding process earlier.
No
If we kept our picks we could of traded Dirk this year and get younger faster. Without Dirk we would be at the top of the lottery for next years draft. Imagine a core of Harris-Aldrige(for Dirk)- a top lottery pick and a top 2010 free agent. The Kidd trade set us back for a decade.
You're right
It’s not a fantasy. It’s dumb. Trading Dirk for Aldridge is the move that would set us back a decade.
But what’s more, you just can’t make a series of snowballing moves and expect to be taken seriously. Draft picks and free agency are largely gambles.
When you have something good, you should hold on to it, and if you’re not going to, only part with it if you’re getting something tangible.
It will be more than just Aldridge
If you rather have a package centered around Greg Oden than Aldridge I bet the Blazers would have done that also. Dirk is going to turn 31 this June he’s not a pup no more and we should get value while we can. We are not a championship caliber team with this current roster. If you don’t take risks you will never succeed.
"If you don’t take risks you will never succeed."
And yet, you opposed the Kidd trade with a team that obviously wasn’t going anywhere…
Yes, I was opposed
N41D,
The trade risk that the mavs tooks in regards to J-Kidd made no sense at the time and it still does not make sense.
I don't want either of them.
Dirk is one of the best players of the last 10 years.
I’m not trading that for a rich-man’s Udonis Haslem or Dampier-lite.
Find me an Al Jefferson and we’ll talk.
rich-man's Udonis Haslem?
Come on.. in 2 years Aldridge will be untouchable.
There is no Al out there.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Criticism of Oden
Should wait till next year since he’s coming back from a major injury. It usually takes 2 years to recover from that type of injury.
Nah.
I don’t see the skills. Is his knee really making him make stupid fouls when he’s not even moving?
Oden
First red flag for me, “makeup” wise, was in the championship game.. down by 20 with 2 minutes ago, the way he dunked the ball pulling his body and slinging his legs like it was the first time he dunked in his life.. it bothered me
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
By time you see it, it'll be too late.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
OT: Edit Button
I was wondering is there a reformating button on sports nation blog? Because I hate making grammar mistakes after I already posted.
not that i know of
In reference to how good the Steelers have been in their history: "No one is even close to them."- Steal Home
Baron, Gordon, Thorton, Randolph, Camby
The Clippers piss me off with how much talent they waste.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Kidd for Marcus Camby and Baron Davis?
Would you guys want to do this deal? Would this hinder us in getting an impact free agent in 2010?
We discussed it a little
If Davis is healthy, its a no brainer.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
The Bobcats traded swingmen Adam Morrison and Shannon Brown to the Lakers on Saturday in exchange for Vladimir Radmanovic.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Does Radmanovic have a bad contract?
I have a hard time believing that Morrison and Brown are better than him.
I have witnessed time and time again.
Yes
3 years left.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Well
2 plus a player option.
It’s a good move for a franchise that has started off with some of the worst moves imaginable.
They really just need to cut the fat around there core, which basically consists of Augustin and Okafor. Felton, May, Wallace (when healthy), Nazr, etc. need to be shipped off, preferably for one or two gigantic expiring deals.
I think they've done a really good job so far season this season shaping the roster
Shipping one injury prone, overpaid player for 2 solid players, sending 2 useless players for 1 useful player, and again sending 2 useless players for 1 useful player. I’m not sure exactly how it works, but can’t they keep Felton and sign him to a 1 year tender or something.. like Gordon and Iguodala did? Seems like it would be in the best interest of both parties to do that.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Is their a good fit out there for Vince Carter?
I would like him, but I don’t think us and the Nets match up well in a trade, unless it’s a complete salary dump.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
I saw that the Spurs,
yes you read that right, the Spurs might trade for him.
I have witnessed time and time again.
The Spurs could be a great fit
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
They're saying they would sign Horry to whatever deal to match the needed salary.
I have witnessed time and time again.
Ramon Sessions dropped 44 last night
with 12 dimes, and 5 boards.. sick.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
He had that crazy
24 assists game last season.
Then again, it was a useless end-of-season game.
JEFF TEAGUE TIME.
Not completely useless
He gave a big boost to my fantasy team down the stretch.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
I got fucked by that
it was the FINAL matchup. I hate him for that, since I didn’t pick him up with the PGs (Deron, Devin, Felton) I already had.
JEFF TEAGUE TIME.
Ford suggest a Kidd for Shaq trade
I suggest a Howard and Damp for Shaq and Hill
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
I get this feeling Kidd is going to be a Cavalier
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Eric Snow, Wally, Gibson, and Hickson
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Pavlovic is out for a month
The release of those rankings, 10 days before the deadline, showing how valuable Kidd still is. The Cavs have to do everything/anything possible to improve, they have no choice, they will lose Lebron if they don’t. The Cavs are the contender that make the most sense. They were starting Mo and Delonte, right? Kidd and Mo is better. If were not gonna resign him, we have to try and get something back.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Good
trade for all?
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Interesting
I’m not sure Phoenix is getting enough back. The only player I’d really want is Stuckey, Yi has a pure shot, but from what I’ve seen, he’s lost on the other end.
Very interesting though.
by brettgardner on Feb 10, 2009 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
I would actually think that the Nets would prefer to keep Anderson
And give up draft picks, our 2010 pick, maybe. Detroit could maybe send a pick as well.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
I can't believe NO is actually talking about trading Chandler
I want him so bad, is it possible?
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
I know
Golden State is gonna get them one of these big guys.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Mavs rejected Kidd for Baron/Kaman?
There’s a post about it on DallasBasketball with someone saying they saw it on ESPN…
After thinking about it
Nah, I don’t like taking on two oft-injured guys signed to big deals.
Good for Cuban if true.
by brettgardner on Feb 10, 2009 6:25 PM CST up reply actions
Baron, Wright, Josh, Dirk, Kaman...
With JET off the bench sure sounds good though…
But I think it’s tough taking on those salaries for that period of time considering the health histories…
It does sound good
If we could rewind both of those guys to 3 or 4 years ago, I’d do it without hesitation. Now, they’re both too injured and their contracts aren’t commensurate with their production.
by brettgardner on Feb 10, 2009 7:07 PM CST up reply actions
I read about this on other mesage boards as well
It was announced on NBA Coast to Coast or something like that. From the Real GM boards:
On the Staying or Going session on EPSN about 5 minutes ago, Rick Bucher said the clippers offered Baron back to GSW for Mags.
They also offered Kamen + Baron to Dallas for Jkidd, but no one wants to take back that contract, is what they were saying.
Up up down down left right left right B A start
Por reportedly
offering Aldridge/Bayless/Raef for Amare.
"Come on man you have to admit the average guy in a baseball clubhouse...... is relatively a douchebag." BGL.
If that offer is out there and Kerr passes...
He should without a doubt be fired…
You mean Aldridge and Bayless?
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Yeah, that was supposed to be a Reply...
But yeah…
Aldridge/Bayliss/Big Expiring is as good a deal as he’s gonna get… If that’s on the table, and you’re really dead-set on moving Amare, you cannot turn it down.
I agree.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Update
“That deal is dead,” the person familiar with the talks said. ….. Portland is really looking to acquire an elite point guard, according to an NBA team executive.
I know the Mavs supposedly turned down Davis/Kaman for Kidd… Maybe they can work out something with Portland?
"Come on man you have to admit the average guy in a baseball clubhouse...... is relatively a douchebag." BGL.
I think they want Andre Miller
But Philly with Andre Miller, to me, can be the 3rd best team in the East with Nelson’s injury.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
I guess.
Bayless would sure look good in a Mavs uni though.
"Come on man you have to admit the average guy in a baseball clubhouse...... is relatively a douchebag." BGL.
Yeah, I know
Kidd would have to be the next option after Miller. But I’m not sure we can pull Bayless in a deal for Kidd.
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
Well, I got another trade.
Howard, Stackhouse, and George or Howard, Stackhouse, Singleton, and Green for Caron Butler, Etan Thomas, and Mike James.
The trade makes us better, because in both cases we are really only traded one player that plays an important role on our team for a player that is a hell of a lot better.
Washington makes this trade, because they would have Howard’s salary and Stackhouse’s 2 million on their payroll next year instead of Butler, Thomas, and James. I’m assuming James with take that 6.4 million player option, since he isn’t worth that much.
I have witnessed time and time again.
rotoworld.com per yahoo sports.
The Heat, Grizzlies and Suns are reportedly discussing a three-team trade that would send Amare Stoudemire to Miami, Michael Beasley to Memphis and both Rudy Gay and Shawn Marion to Phoenix.
Other players would likely be involved to satisfy salary-cap rules. It’s far from certain that such a deal would go through but it has definite potential. The Blazers and Bulls are also actively involved in the Stoudemire sweepstakes, though it sounds like Phoenix favors this new proposal. Stay tuned. Feb. 13 – 10:35 am et
"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract
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