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I don't know about everyone else, but I thought Dallas had lost that game at least ten different times last night.

Chuck Carlton was impressed that the Mavs did not just fold up shop.

At any given point, the Mavericks could have let reality and human nature take over, especially when Carmelo Anthony and J.R. Smith continued to drain shot after shot. After all, the Mavericks watched a five-point deficit turn into 10 at halftime, thanks to one Denver possession.

The pessimist in me kept expecting that game to get out of hand like game two did.  After each flagrant or technical, after a JR Smith bank shots...  but it didn't.  So that was a nice change.

And Rick Carlisle had the quote of the game.

"We were nastily determined to somehow win," coach Rick Carlisle said. "We came into the huddle at one point and talked about keeping our poise and not getting any more [technicals]. I just thought that the way we fought was great, and I didn’t want to take that away from any of those guys during the game.

"It’s one thing if you’re unnecessarily getting them, [but] I thought the reason we were getting them is because we wanted to win the game so bad."

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Tim Cowlishaw was glad that Dallas avoided being swept.

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Steve Javie is terrible.

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Marc Stein writes in the Daily Dime about the show Carmelo and Dirk  put on.

Nowitzki and Anthony became just the third twosome ever in a playoff game to each total at least 40 points and 10 rebounds. Jerry West (41 and 10) and Elgin Baylor (45 and 17) did it as Los Angeles Lakers teammates against Detroit in 1962. Michael Jordan (42 and 12) and Charles Barkley (42 and 13) did so for Chicago and Phoenix, respectively, in the 1993 NBA Finals. Then the list ends with Dirk and Melo.

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Kelly Dwyer has a bunch on the game insluding some praise/advice for Dirk.

Not unlike Carmelo, just about any shot he decides to toss up will have a solid chance of going in. And like a lot of players who can go over either shoulder, on either block, in either direction, in a number of ways, the sheer amount of possibilities and ways for Dirk to score sometimes boggles the mind. His mind, most importantly. It leads him thinking way too much, trying to set up the perfect shot, when sometimes a one-footed fadeaway off of no contact from 17-feet is a 70 percent proposition.

 

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Carlisle

Maybe Avery was just that bad, but It’s refreshing to go through the playoffs not having to worry about being severely outcoached. Sans the brain fart in the 2nd game, starting Wright/Bass/Barea/Singleton and Terry in the 4th, he’s always made good adjustments. Nene has disappeared, Martin is still invisible, Smith, while maddening, has been held relatively in check. Melo and Billups are going off but that’s what superstars do. With a banged up Howard and a ghostly Terry this playoffs, I think that win last night really says something about this team. Especially Dirk and Carlisle, they are not quitters and should be tied in a series they have no business winning.

The 2008-2009 Dallas Mavericks are the biggest teases in the world.

"We love Wash.....As a team, we want Wash as the head of that team." Hamilton

"The NFL made me undergo a psychiatric evaluation......Please. It was an accident. If I wanted to post a picture of my penis I wouldn't have been all hunched over."- Chris Cooley.

by sprite on May 12, 2009 3:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i agree with this, and i'm starting to see the resemblance to jim carrey in some of these pictures.

I mean, I guess it would just be a guy who you know, grabs bananas and runs. Or, um, a banana that grabs things. I don’t know. Why would a banana grab another banana? I mean, those are the kind of questions I don’t want to answer.

by buckets on May 12, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha, you're just now starting to?

Likewise, I also agree with sprite’s comment.

Good luck studying!

I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together.

by Marie on May 12, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kidd, too...

you forget a few days (or weeks) ago, everybody was saying this was Kidd’s team. He ran Round 1 by himself. And while his turnovers and production haven’t been the best in this series, he’s still a leader along with Dirk and Carlisle. Good to see a great leader (at least basketball wise) running the point for a Mavs playoff team…

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on May 12, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dirk and Melo

It’s about time they got some dues. I became physically ill when Webber was bashing Dirk’s explanation about how the different Nug defenders “attempt” to guard him. His contract should not be renewed for next season.

"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus

by propheteer on May 12, 2009 5:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

he sucks the life out of any TNT breath I had before...

which wasn’t much.

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on May 12, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quote:

“Nowitzki has now rung up 77 points and 29 rebounds since the turmoil in his personal life was made public, with his latest detonation enabling Dallas to escape with a 119-117 triumph that will nonetheless be remembered as both historic and distressing.”

I knew Dirk would erupt after that GF crap came out…I thought we’d be tied 2-2, and maybe we should be, but either way, the man’s averaged 38.5 ppg and 14.5 rpg in the 2 games since. Those are pretty good numbers…

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on May 12, 2009 6:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It killed me not being here for the past two games.

My internet went out thursday afternoon and I just got it back today. I was pissed as hell about the bs in game 3 and 4 but it’s still not over. As I told my friend these past few days, If the ship is going down, I’m sinking with it.

by bruce182 on May 12, 2009 8:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If the Mavericks can still beleive, we should too.

As I said last night, isn’t the smallest chance of victory enough of a reason to keep on fighting? If we’re gonna die, then lets die swinging, cause there’s no continues in this game.

by kwentin on May 12, 2009 8:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think that's the beauty of it

Josh is the key to each game from here on out. and he’s got that “F it – I’m gonna have surgery in the offseason anyways” mentality now that each game is do-or-die

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on May 13, 2009 1:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"I don't know about everyone else, but I thought Dallas had lost that game at least ten different times last night."

Exactly. It’s frustrating to see them play like that most especially for a vet team like ours. Time and time again it seems that some of our players keep exposing the lack of Basketball IQ needed for us to succeed. Two categories that need to be addressed this offseason: Age and players with high basketball IQ. Sloppy play and poor shot selection by crucial players always bites us in the ass. But I’m still hoping we could snag a win come game 5

by slickd on May 12, 2009 10:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Frustrating for Mavs fans.

You think it’s frustrating for you guys? As you said, there were at least ten times where the Nuggets should have put it away but just didn’t get that stop or took a silly basket on the other end. It’s frustrating for Nuggets fans to lead the whole game and throw it away in the last few minutes.
Oh well, Bird is back tonight and it should be a fun game.
Good luck.

by NuggBuckets on May 13, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

joey crawford is reffing tonight

wooo hoooooo

"Daryl (Morey, the Rockets general manager) and I were talking this morning. We both discussed how great Tracy is in the playoffs. There's very few people who have the ability to step up their games in the playoffs and he does. So we're not looking to run away from Tracy." - Houston Rockets Owner, Leslie Alexander

muhahahaha WTF?!?!

by zkmavz on May 13, 2009 9:33 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i actually am happy that joey is reffing

he is one of the guys that could help send this thing back to dallas… i was hoping for him or bavetta

"Daryl (Morey, the Rockets general manager) and I were talking this morning. We both discussed how great Tracy is in the playoffs. There's very few people who have the ability to step up their games in the playoffs and he does. So we're not looking to run away from Tracy." - Houston Rockets Owner, Leslie Alexander

muhahahaha WTF?!?!

by zkmavz on May 13, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just so that you know.

Crawford doesn’t like Carmelo. I guess we should hope that it comes down to 6 seconds left and Dallas has a foul to give. Crawford won’t call a foul unless someone punches Melo in the face.

by NuggBuckets on May 13, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah I'd love Bavetta

if nothing else, he’s really fun to watch.

My favorite ref though for this series would’ve been Jimmy Clark. I sat courtside at a Mavs/Magic game this year and the guy was HILARIOUS. Always messing with fans and such, having a good time…

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on May 13, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mavs fans:

Can I get your take on this?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2009/news/story?id=4161802

“Andersen said between bites of mashed potatoes Tuesday that he’s recovered from his sour stomach that kept him out of the Nuggets’ 119-117 loss to the Mavericks the previous night.

“I feel really good now,” Andersen said after getting additional IVs and shooting some baskets.

He said he can’t wait for Game 5 Wednesday night at the Pepsi Center when the Nuggets try to clinch their first trip to the Western Conference Finals in 24 years.

His teammates are equally eager to take out their frustrations on the basketball court.

They’re upset with the way their families and friends were treated Monday night at American Airlines Center, where fans hurled insults at Kenyon Martin’s girlfriend, rap star Trina, and where Carmelo Anthony’s girlfriend, LaLa Vazquez of MTV fame, was removed from her seat by security guards for her safety.

Fans also got into shouting matches with Martin’s mother, who had extra protection around her after Mavericks owner Mark Cuban called her son a thug following the frenetic finish in Game 3.


“I think all of us are kind of angry about … the treatment we got in Dallas,” Nuggets coach George Karl said Tuesday. “And we want our home crowd to be with us and … we want to show them that we owe them a game.”

On Tuesday, Cuban apologized for yelling at Martin’s mother, Lydia Moore, and suggested things had gotten out of hand. But his apology was brushed aside by the Nuggets because it contained an offer that they could all sit in his suite with his own family “when the series comes back to Dallas.”

“We don’t plan on going back to Dallas,” retorted Chauncey Billups.

Cuban also offered to take Martin and his mother out for dinner this summer.

Dinner in Dallas is a sore subject with the Nuggets right now.

Andersen said he ate something bad at the team hotel Monday that left him doubled over in the locker room during the game with severe abdominal cramps and vomiting.

The Nuggets sorely missed their energetic center as Dallas star Dirk Nowitzki scored a series-high 44 points and pulled down 13 rebounds to help the Mavericks stave off elimination.

Without the “Birdman” swatting away passes and making things tough on Nowitzki in the paint, Dallas outrebounded the Nuggets 50-34 and Denver managed just seven second-chance points.

With all the talk of hostile treatment in Dallas, Andersen isn’t alleging sabotage.

“Nope. I’m actually going to have some fresh legs,” he said. “I’m just real anxious to get out there on the floor and give it everything I’ve got.”

Billups, who said his wife also got into a confrontation Monday night, acknowledged the Nuggets were worried about what was happening in the stands.

“It’s a distraction. You get your family to travel and try to support you — it’s the only support that you have in the arena — but you’ve got to worry about their safety and their well-being,” Billups said. “And that’s not right.”

Billups added that “families should always be off-limits. They’re coming to enjoy the game, support their loved ones.”


The Mavericks took Tuesday off and Martin, who exchanged words with Cuban as he left the court after the game, didn’t speak with reporters following the team’s short film session Tuesday. But Billups called Cuban’s apology inadequate.

“No, that’s unacceptable, man. That’s just not right. You’re the owner of a team. You’re held at a different standard as far as professionalism,” Billups said. “Yeah, you can root for your team, but that’s just not right. That’s not acceptable.”

Cuban is skipping Game 5 to be at an awards ceremony in Las Vegas.

Although he’s counting on the series returning to Dallas, no NBA team has ever recovered from a 3-0 deficit to win a playoff series and no team has beaten Denver at the Pepsi Center since March 11.

“The pressure is on them to win the series,” Jason Kidd said. “We don’t have any pressure.”

Billups chuckled at the notion.

“We can still afford to lose,” he said. “They can’t.”

Really, I hope Denver can show they’re the bigger city tomorrow night rather than threatening the safety of the family members of the Mavericks players in attendance. There’s no excuse for that. I fully respect the Mavericks as a team, but that shit is unacceptable and just creates a dangerous environment for everyone involved. It also takes away from the game.

I’d wish you luck tonight, but I wouldn’t really mean it. Denver is going to be pissed.

by BeefySwats on May 13, 2009 10:34 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

"The bigger city"

That has got to be some of the most generalized, unsubstantiated garbage I have ever heard.

It takes two people to get in a fight. It would be one thing if these player’s families were just cheering for their team, and then randomly got jumped by an angry drunk fan, but that isn’t the case. These players’ families are not any more special than the rest of the fans in attendance, so what makes you think they can talk shit to Mavs fans without catching a little flak back?

Basically what you guys are saying is that because of the one comment that Cuban allegedly made to Martin’s mother, he put the entire roster’s family in physical danger by merely attending the game.

Think about how utterly ridiculous that sounds dude.

by JayKim41 on May 13, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

All Cuban wanted

was to get a reaction out of K-Mart that would show his true colors, and he succeeded. I don’t think he has ever said to Dwyane Wade or Chris Paul’s parents that they have a punk ass son.. Why is that?

by JayKim41 on May 13, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm just saying

Dallas is going to reap the whirlwind tonight. Why even try and start shit with the other team’s family members, when you know you’re going into a hostile environment with a fanbase ALREADY against you.

by BeefySwats on May 13, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No?

I’m saying that your fans put some of the Nuggets’ family members in physical danger by being at the game. Every report I have heard is that there were multiple threats to the safety of Billups, Martin and Melo’s family members, and that is just bullshit.

Are you seriously saying that it was them starting shit, when all reports are to the contrary? Jesus. Nuggets fans at least know who they should be booing.

Shameful, man. At least we call out our asshole fans – like the guy who through the bottle on court in the Nawlins series – rather than tolerate, or, laughably, as you’ve done, defend shit like this.

by BeefySwats on May 13, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's not what all the reports say

There are reports coming out from both sides.

It was a crappy situation — but let’s not act like only Dallas fans cause this kind of crap. Puhleaze.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on May 13, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not defending anyone

If I were to go attend a game in Denver, and start talking shit to a fan that wasn’t in good nature, I should expect to get into a fight.

by JayKim41 on May 13, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

beefy

befroe you post a novel on the site.. why dont you read all the previous comments where all of this has already been discussed

"Daryl (Morey, the Rockets general manager) and I were talking this morning. We both discussed how great Tracy is in the playoffs. There's very few people who have the ability to step up their games in the playoffs and he does. So we're not looking to run away from Tracy." - Houston Rockets Owner, Leslie Alexander

muhahahaha WTF?!?!

by zkmavz on May 13, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Billups added that "families should always be off-limits. They’re coming to enjoy the game, support their loved ones."

This has always been my point of view.

I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together.

by Marie on May 13, 2009 10:59 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

then their families

need to keep their mouths shut and not throw drinks on people… or threaten to fight all you mother F’ers like kenyons brother… if someone is giving you shit.. get out of your seat and go tell a secrutity guard… the family members and slut girlfriends/fiances are as much to blame

"Daryl (Morey, the Rockets general manager) and I were talking this morning. We both discussed how great Tracy is in the playoffs. There's very few people who have the ability to step up their games in the playoffs and he does. So we're not looking to run away from Tracy." - Houston Rockets Owner, Leslie Alexander

muhahahaha WTF?!?!

by zkmavz on May 13, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If they started everything, then that's a different story

But if they are being harassed without provocation, then i don’t blame the players (and their families/significant others) for being angry. It really depends on what happened first.

I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together.

by Marie on May 13, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If they were being harrassed without provocation

then that’s an issue they should take up with the police.

by JayKim41 on May 13, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You would have to define "provocation"

http://mavsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/05/section-119-ticket-holder-lala-vazquez-w.html

According to that, it sounds like lala was pissed off from the beginning. Yeah, it’s just the other side of the story, but it’s irrelevant what really happened first. Both sides are dumb — both sides should have shut the hell up.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on May 13, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I find it disengenious to say Mavs fans are out of line

when they react like that. If those family members had ignored ignorant fans (like we all have to do every time we are at a game at any venue) instead of escalating it — it’d be no big deal.

This isn’t an issue so much about Dallas fans — it’s a sport’s fan culture thing. It’s acceptable to yell, scream, cuss, and whine at a public sporting event. When you have family members who are defensive and can’t ignore it — it causes problems. Both sides should’ve just shut the hell up and watched basketball.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on May 13, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Proving a point about Mavs fans.

There you go. Instead of acting like a rational person you just proved how offensive some Mavs fans can be. You started off with a good point, go get security, and then you just proved why the Nugget’s players made those comments to the media about offensive Mavs fans.

by NuggBuckets on May 13, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

have you heard trinas songs?

are you saying she isnt a slut? seriously?

"Daryl (Morey, the Rockets general manager) and I were talking this morning. We both discussed how great Tracy is in the playoffs. There's very few people who have the ability to step up their games in the playoffs and he does. So we're not looking to run away from Tracy." - Houston Rockets Owner, Leslie Alexander

muhahahaha WTF?!?!

by zkmavz on May 13, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, you're right.

And Dallas fans are bigots and whiners. I mean, that’s fair judging by your posts, right?

by NuggBuckets on May 13, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha

yay now we understand each other!

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on May 13, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

as long as we agree that trina is a slut

your assessment is fine with me…

"Daryl (Morey, the Rockets general manager) and I were talking this morning. We both discussed how great Tracy is in the playoffs. There's very few people who have the ability to step up their games in the playoffs and he does. So we're not looking to run away from Tracy." - Houston Rockets Owner, Leslie Alexander

muhahahaha WTF?!?!

by zkmavz on May 13, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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