The Game Five Roundup

by Wes Cox on May 13, 2009 10:46 AM CDT in News

I am so tired of the Carmelo's gf, Martin's mom, Cuban, thug, racism, punk, throwing drinks, he said-she said, they started it, blog apoligies, and 'f****t motherfuc@*r' crap. It's stupid. All of it, by everyone on both sides. I really don't care, and it really has almost no impact on the game. Starting with Dirk's drama, Mavs playoff coverage has been reduced to Page 6 material. I'm not linking to a single story on any of it because it doesn't matter.

Sefko writes on Dirk & Carmelo, and wonders if Dirk could carry Dallas to a game five win too.

But with Denver seemingly married to the idea of guarding Nowitzki one-on-one, you have to wonder if just about anything is possible for him.

"I can't say enough about what Dirk did out there," Mavericks coach Rick Carlisle said. "Just a fantastic performance. There are very few guys I've been around in this league that are as strong-willed as he is. Dirk's performance was amazing."

"It looked like he had a mission," Denver coach George Karl said of Nowitzki.

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Mike Fisher has the game five announcers and refs.

Your TNT voices are Matt Devlin, PJ Carlesimo and Marty Snider!

Your NBA zebras are Joey Crawford, Ronnie Garretson and Bill Kennedy.

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Jason Kidd on how he's looking at 3-1.

"There's no pressure on us," Jason Kidd said. "You look at history and you say, at some point, it's got to change. You can always tell yourself, why not be part of history? Look at baseball, what the Red Sox did to the Yankees."

"We took a little baby step," Kidd said. "It's easy to say, hey, we don't need to get on that flight and go back to Denver. But we showed character and fought.

"The pressure's on them to try to end the series. We've just got to go up there and find a way to win."

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Rick Carisle left last night to be a pallbearer at Chuck Daly's funeral. He'll miss the shootaround today.

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JJT says the Mavs are tough!

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I am so tired of the Carmelo’s gf, Martin’s mom, Cuban, thug, racism, punk, throwing drinks, he said-she said, they started it, blog apoligies, and ‘f****t motherfuc@*r’ crap. It’s stupid. All of it, by everyone on both sides. I really don’t care, and it really has almost no impact on the game. Starting with Dirk’s drama, Mavs playoff coverage has been reduced to Page 6 material. I’m not linking to a single story on any of it because it doesn’t matter.

It absolutely does matter. If a player’s mind isn’t on the game because he’s distracted because fans are threatening the safety of their family members, then it definitely has an impact on the game.

As I said in my earlier post, I fully respect the Mavs team, but that is just shameful. Family members should be off limits no matter who is playing, and it’s really classless that some Dallas fans cannot seem to respect that.

Also, for a team already facing an elimination game in a hostile environment, why do you want to do even MORE to get the opposing team’s fans angry? Believe me when I say there is a lot of anger at Dallas for that.

by BeefySwats on May 13, 2009 11:13 AM CDT reply actions

Wes can you delete this shit and ban him please

by JayKim41 on May 13, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions

Yes please.

Ban the guy for posting a rational response, you can’t have things like that on this blog. No sir.

by NuggBuckets on May 13, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions

can we bury the horse, already? it has been beaten enough fellas.

I mean, I guess it would just be a guy who you know, grabs bananas and runs. Or, um, a banana that grabs things. I don’t know. Why would a banana grab another banana? I mean, those are the kind of questions I don’t want to answer.

by buckets on May 13, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions

I think the sweet, calm, collected Denver fans

need to consider that there are two sides to the story.

http://mavsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/05/section-119-ticket-holder-lala-vazquez-w.html

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on May 13, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions

Already read it.

One poster made an excellent point in that there are always two sides to a story and rarely is one spot-on.
I doubt that LaLa just went crazy without an impetus. I also doubt that the fans were so aggressive that she was worried about her safety. She obviously over reacted, but that doesn’t mean that the fans around her were not offensive.
The point is that the environment in the arena was very hostile to the families of Denver players which should not happen. I sincerely hope that Denver fans don’t mimic what happened in Dallas.

by NuggBuckets on May 13, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions

they will...

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on May 13, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions

I agree with this

The point is that the environment in the arena was very hostile to the families of Denver players which should not happen. I sincerely hope that Denver fans don’t mimic what happened in Dallas.

However, aside from putting all family members from every team in an suite at all arenas — what can you do?

This isn’t a “Dallas fan” issue — it’s a general sports fan culture thing.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on May 13, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions

There are asshats everywhere. We just have to try to outnumber them.

by NuggBuckets on May 13, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions

relax.

Denver fans have losers…Dallas fans have losers…Spurs, Lakers, Rockets, Cavs…they all have classless losers. We get that Cuban screwed up. But the only player that has screwed up so far is K-Mart. Can I blame him? No. But if he’s a professional, he should keep his language in check, too, around women and children. Even Karl was upset with him reacting publicly and during the playoffs…wished he waited until the offseason.

Either way, just take a deep breath, get ready for an exciting game, and let’s move on.

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on May 13, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions

Family members, owners, players, fans, whatever.

I have no problem if you want to boo or heckle anyone from the opposing team while at a sporting event. That includes the owner, coach, fans, family members, mascots, little old ladies and small babies.
However, it should all be within reason. It should be part of the fun of the game, not to detract from the game. When Cuban’s picture comes up on the big-screen I get a kick out of the Denver fans booing him (and I think Cuban does too). When Kobe touches the ball I love the low-buzz that fills the Pepsi Center. If I see a guy wearing a Celtics jersey I just have to rib him about Big Baby. Accepting that is part of the fun of supporting the visiting team.
However, spitting on them, offending them, assaulting them, throwing soda, etc., that’s just tasteless, no matter who is doing it, whether they’re Dallas fans or Denver fans.
I was very impressed with the Mavs players in game 4, they fought hard and they won despite being down a number of times. And I just wanted to quote Chauncey’s response to Kidd for all you guys:

"The pressure is on them to win the series," Jason Kidd(notes) said. "We don’t have any pressure."
Billups chuckled at the notion.
"We can still afford to lose," he said. "They can’t."

Good luck tonight.

by NuggBuckets on May 13, 2009 11:23 AM CDT reply actions

Nice quote.

I especially love the part about “we can still afford to lose” coming from the former finals MVP and leader of this team…if he believes they can afford to lose, and states that publicly, then maybe that attitude carries over into the game…and the Mavs squeak this one out. Just MAYBE.

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on May 13, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions

Can this be about basketball again, please?

This is getting fucking ridiculous and old.

I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together.

by Marie on May 13, 2009 11:39 AM CDT reply actions 7 recs

rec x a million

www.mavsmoneyball.com

by Wes Cox on May 13, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions

wish i had scrolled down. we are on the same wavelength. it's all that lost we're watching.

and our mutual respect for the manimal, matt carroll. that rhymed. unintentional.

by buckets on May 13, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions

Are you sure that's what you really want?

Game 6 – Dallas at Denver (Denver leads series 3-1)
While Denver sprinted out to an early lead in the 1st quarter, Dallas proved that there was still some fight in them, knocking off a 12-4 run to end the quarter with Denver up by 2. The Birdman’s return brought the Denver crowd to their feet and immediately affected the game with a put-back dunk off an errant jumper by Dahntay Jones.
The game was more of the same for Denver and Dallas, a hard-fought physical game. Dallas had a few costly turnovers that led to easy Denver baskets but Dirk was amazing in the first half, making 8 of 9 jumpers and finished the half with 22 points. Carmelo was 4-7 with 13 points but added 6 assists and 2 steals in the first half.
Down by just 4 at halftime Dallas made an early run to start the 3rd quarter, giving them their first lead of the game. However, Denver benefited from 3 consecutive turnovers and extended the lead to 8 by the end of the third.
Dirk attempted to jump-start the Mavs in the fourth quarter sinking his first 3 shots but Denver’s hustle and knack for causing turnovers was just too much. Despite 14 points in the fourth quarter from Dirk, the Nuggets depth extended the lead and finished the series.
Final score Denver 112 – Dallas 102. Denver wins series 4-1.
Nowitski 42 points 14-21, 12 reb, 3 ast, 4 to
Anthony 34 points 12-22, 9 ast, 9 reb, 2 to

Come back this evening to see how close my prediction is. :)

by NuggBuckets on May 13, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions

I hope its close haha

"Do not rest in defense. You can spend 24 seconds in offense on resting. If you do good enough on defense, you will be able to rest on offense."

by Lucas Navarrete on May 13, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions

Not too far off

My stats on Melo were almost right on, and Dirk shared the ball much more than I expected him to. And if you replace my “Dirk attempted to jump-start the Mavs in the fourth quarter sinking his first 3 shots” with “Kidd attempted to jump-start the Mavs in the fourth quarter sinking three 3-pointers” then it’s even closer.
I was just glad that Dallas competed the whole game and the whole series.
Best of luck next year.

by NuggBuckets on May 14, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions

hey... SBNation got rid of the Rotten Tomatoes logo for Rec'd posts

nice.

The NBA: Where Wunderlich Happens.

by MeanMr.Mustard on May 13, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions

Thanks Wes

much agreed and appreciated – you do some very good work on here.

I HOPE I DON’T HAVE TO SHAVE THIS SHAGGY BEARD TONIGHT!!!

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on May 13, 2009 12:14 PM CDT reply actions

Dirk won First Team All-NBA Honors! Woot Woot!

(BRoy on Second Team. I’m happy)

"Officiating has to be a science, not an art" - Rick Carlisle

by Norsktroll on May 13, 2009 12:37 PM CDT reply actions

righteous

by ptrck on May 13, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions

that is awesome

and deserved!

"Daryl (Morey, the Rockets general manager) and I were talking this morning. We both discussed how great Tracy is in the playoffs. There's very few people who have the ability to step up their games in the playoffs and he does. So we're not looking to run away from Tracy." - Houston Rockets Owner, Leslie Alexander

muhahahaha WTF?!?!

by zkmavz on May 13, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions

Yay!

I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together.

by Marie on May 13, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions

manu on 3rd team? tim duncan close to dirk in total pts...

The All-NBA Teams are as follows:
2008-09 ALL-NBA FIRST TEAM
Position Player, Team (1st Team Votes) Points
Forward LeBron James, Cleveland (122) 610
Forward Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas (35) 383
Center Dwight Howard, Orlando (116) 598
Guard Kobe Bryant, L.A. Lakers (119) 604
Guard Dwyane Wade, Miami (103) 572

2008-09 ALL-NBA SECOND TEAM
Position Player, Team (1st Team Votes) Points
Forward Tim Duncan, San Antonio (39) 378
Forward Paul Pierce, Boston (27) 330
Center Yao Ming, Houston (8) 354
Guard Brandon Roy, Portland 189
Guard Chris Paul, New Orleans (32) 424

2008-09 ALL-NBA THIRD TEAM
Position Player, Team (1st Team Votes) Points
Forward Carmelo Anthony, Denver (2) 116
Forward Pau Gasol, L.A. Lakers (2) 165
Center Shaquille O’Neal, Phoenix 68
    Guard Chauncey Billups, Denver 131
    Guard Tony Parker, San Antonio (1) 158
    Guard Manu Ginobili, San Antonio 123

muhahahaha WTF?!?!

by zkmavz on May 13, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions

why are there 3 guards, 6 players on the 3rd team?

Ginobili even getting votes is a joke.

by ptrck on May 13, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions

yeah... what?

where are the votes for the guy who beat him at 6th man of the year? I honestly don’t think Terry deserves 3rd team either.. but Ginobili definitely shouldn’t.

The NBA: Where Wunderlich Happens.

by MeanMr.Mustard on May 13, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions

It's quite a shame

that all this off-the-court stuff is overshadowing the awesomeness displayed by Dirk and Carmelo. Whenever the Dallas/Denver series is brought up, these two should be front and center, not Cuban and K-Mart.

by ptrck on May 13, 2009 12:43 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs

True.

I have new-found respect for Dirk. The Dagger.

by NuggBuckets on May 13, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions

And

I’ve grown to love Melo – The Smiling Assassin – even though on occasion he’s been known to react immaturely.

by NuggBuckets on May 13, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions

Melo has grown on me ever since I read how much money he donates to his schools and other projects

He might have been involved with thugs, even been in danger of becoming one if he wasn’t amazing at playing ball. But calling him that now just because he is on a team with many weird looking guys is unfounded.

"Officiating has to be a science, not an art" - Rick Carlisle

by Norsktroll on May 13, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions

+1

Dirk v. Carmelo has been the best superstar duel of the playoffs

The NBA: Where Wunderlich Happens.

by MeanMr.Mustard on May 13, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

TNT/ESPN

why do we keep getting both network’s C teams?

Doris Burke? Matt Devlin?

Shouldn’t we get either Marv or Harlan since there’s only 2 games in a given night on TNT? Or Breen/Tirico with ESPN/ABC?

The NBA: Where Wunderlich Happens.

by MeanMr.Mustard on May 13, 2009 2:14 PM CDT reply actions

ill prob get killed for this... i dont mind

doris burke buddddyyy

muhahahaha WTF?!?!

by zkmavz on May 13, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions

Oh Snap!

The tagline for Whitlock’s article:

“If Mark Cuban had dissed his mama, Jason Whitlock would have hit him in the mouth. Yet David Stern doesn’t even slap his wrist.’

I Hate That Guy.

Jeff Zimmerman for President.

by AirJordan on May 13, 2009 3:29 PM CDT reply actions

yeah, Whitlock sucks.

I’ll never understand how people like that get national recognition

The NBA: Where Wunderlich Happens.

by MeanMr.Mustard on May 13, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions

No more JJT linking plz

The guy’s a moron.

Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.

by jonthefon on May 13, 2009 4:00 PM CDT reply actions

Thanks NuggBuckets for that quote

from Chancey Billups. I’d already heard the Kidd quote, just not the response to it. Personally though, if I were a Denver fan I’d be concerned that our (supposed) “leader” is stating that they can “afford” to lose. What the hell kind of “leadership” is that? Any team any time (much less the playoffs) wants to win EVERY game. That fact that Billups says they can “afford” to lose speaks VOLUMES about his “leadership”. And that’s NOT necessarily a good thing.
GO MAVS!

by Cynthia56 on May 13, 2009 6:58 PM CDT reply actions

Just to clarify

I think the point of his quote was to say “don’t believe him, they’ve got all the pressure in the world.” Plus, anyone who knows anything about Chauncey knows that he is no-nonsense guy who only cares about one thing: winning.

by NuggBuckets on May 14, 2009 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions