I Hate Basketball
by Wes Cox on May 9, 2009 7:40 PM CDT
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I have been a Mav fan since their inception and always will be and the bottom line in my book is, as painful as it may be to say, the Mavs had ample opportunity to execute down the stretch but didn’t. This one will hurt for a while…
by alphamav on May 9, 2009 7:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Fuck, I'm so angry
I think I need to get drunk…I’m still going to watch Game 4 because I am a loyal fan, but it’ll be pointless. Tonight’s efforts by key guys (Dirk, Bass, Josh) were wasted. Fuck!
I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together.
by Marie on May 9, 2009 7:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate what happened
Still can’t believe it. But when you let it simmer down a bit I don’t want to keep blaming the refs anymore no matter how bullshit it might seem, nothing will come of it. It ain’t productive to think like that. I hope the players blame themselves and it translates to the first comeback from going down 3-0, wishful thinking but thinking like you’ve been robbed won’t do this team any good and it won’t do us fans any good as well. Just my two cents
by slickd on May 9, 2009 7:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Even though that no-call sucked
Dallas should never have let Denver hang around in a must-win game, right?
Bork bork bork!
by Avinash on May 9, 2009 7:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It is what it is
At the end of the day, Denver is the better team and they deserve to advance. For the record, I think I can speak for the majority of Mavs fans here that we are not complaining about the officiating—we are mad at the referee swallowing his whistle when he shouldn’t have. If the ref did the right thing, I/we would then have no problem losing if it came from Denver outright outplaying Dallas. That’s all.
by ptrck on May 9, 2009 8:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Should have been called.
Obviously I’m a Thuggets fan but the foul should have been called. The ref should have known where they were in the game and that Dallas had a foul to give.
That said, Wright lifted his arms in the air like he didn’t want to foul and the refs hadn’t been calling that type of contact as a foul all game long. Dirk also had a chance to put it away with his 13 footer that he clanked off the front of the rim.
by NuggBuckets on May 9, 2009 8:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thuggets...nice that you can have a sense of humor
I’d normally put a smiley but I’m not a happy person at the moment
I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together.
by Marie on May 9, 2009 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
final 21 seconds
i’m a huge dallas fan, but i can’t understand why this has to happen:
final 21 secs – dallas leads, 105-103; dallas timeout, dallas ball, denver in penalty;
final 7 secs – nowitski shoots the ball and missed! what are you thinking, dirk? shot clock is off, denver in penalty, dallas is leading by two — why shoot the ball with 7 seconds left? denver got the ball and called a timeout;
final 1 sec – anthony (he of the sucker punch fame) shoots a 3 pointer, denver leads, 106-105, dallas timeout, dirk misses a 3 pointer. game ends.
denver leads series, 3-0.
darn it dirk!
by dallas forever! on May 9, 2009 8:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
shot clock wasnt off at 7 sec
he could have milked it for maybe another second or two but the shot clock was still on. about a 4ish sec difference
by longhorn3621 on May 10, 2009 2:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Free throws
How many free throws did the mavs miss in the 4th? I hated the no call too but they lost by 1 point. Mavs make those free throws and this is a non issue.
by loplop on May 9, 2009 8:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Now that I'm somewhat calm
I’ve been a fan since I was a toddler, I will be watching game 4 after all, I cant change the past it is what it is. I love the game of basketball, though I hate the shenanigans that goes on with the league and its officals, but if Dirk made that shot or had Melo missed it would be a non-factor, its a tough pill to swallow , more like a suppository (sp?)
by kwentin on May 9, 2009 8:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thats the spirit
I just hope the players see like you do and play all out come game 4 forgetting that last call
by slickd on May 9, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dallas forever
The shot clock was on for Dirk. His shot at the .07 mark was 3 seconds before the shot clock expired. Carmelo dunked at the with 28 seconds left where Dallas then took possession.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playbyplay?gameId=290509006&period=4
by alphamav on May 9, 2009 8:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Melo received a lot of contact all game and he never got the call. I don’t know why they would call it at the end of the game. It was consistent with how they called contact on Melo all game. Also, if you want to foul someone they do it right. Don’t throw your hands up…wrap the guy up so he can’t get a shot off. Finally, even if the refs did call the contact then the Nugs would have got the ball out of bounds and very likely would have made the shot to win or tie the game anyway.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on May 9, 2009 8:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mark Cuban also hates basketball right now. He can't even spell anymore on Twitter
There is absolutely nothing to say afetr that.
by Norsktroll on May 9, 2009 8:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i still kinda like basketball, but just the game.
I mean, I guess it would just be a guy who you know, grabs bananas and runs. Or, um, a banana that grabs things. I don’t know. Why would a banana grab another banana? I mean, those are the kind of questions I don’t want to answer.
by buckets on May 9, 2009 8:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Here's the trade that's going to save our franchise.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=p2rvud
S-St. Louis, R-Rams, D-Dallas, M-Mavericks, A-Arizona, D-Diamondbacks.
by srdmad on May 9, 2009 8:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
that is so likely that my brain just exploded.
I mean, I guess it would just be a guy who you know, grabs bananas and runs. Or, um, a banana that grabs things. I don’t know. Why would a banana grab another banana? I mean, those are the kind of questions I don’t want to answer.
by buckets on May 9, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know right.
S-St. Louis, R-Rams, D-Dallas, M-Mavericks, A-Arizona, D-Diamondbacks.
by srdmad on May 9, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or just Damp and Stack for Shaq :)
"Officiating has to be a science, not an art" - Rick Carlisle
by Norsktroll on May 9, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm, interesting.
S-St. Louis, R-Rams, D-Dallas, M-Mavericks, A-Arizona, D-Diamondbacks.
by srdmad on May 9, 2009 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And there's another painful playoff defeat
to add to a long, long list…
Once the Mavs are eliminated, I’ll probably root for the Magic, they’re possibly the only team left that I don’t dislike:
Lakers: they have a rapist, a lot of bandwagoning, ignorant, obnoxious fans and a rapist.
Rockets: self-explanatory.
Denver: I can’t root for them when they’ve knocked us out. I’ll root for “rapist” chants by their fans though.
Cleveland: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysmLA5TqbIY (kudos to Wes for awesomeness)
Boston: Fuck Boston.
Atlanta: They’re screwed, otherwise I’d consider them
Once Orlando lose, I’ll probably just give up on this whole thing for a while, apart from maybe posting some draft thoughts after the lottery (where I can mock draft).
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
by jonthefon on May 9, 2009 9:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"Officiating has to be a science, not an art," Mavs coach Rick Carlisle said. "If I sit here and belabor this it’s not going to be good for our league. It’s one of those times where it’s really an unfortunate thing."
"Officiating has to be a science, not an art" - Rick Carlisle
by Norsktroll on May 9, 2009 9:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So exactly what do we need?
Just flawless execution down the stretch? A rock-solid rebounder on both ends? A slasher again (49 free throws today though…) A shooter? Just an athlete of some sort.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
by jonthefon on May 9, 2009 9:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen would be nice
one dude went from being an irrelevant but nevertheless All-Star caliber player to “first ballot Hall of Famer” because of those two
by ptrck on May 9, 2009 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt anyone apart from Bostoners
would have Paul Pierce in the HOF.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
by jonthefon on May 9, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate it when people refer to him as that
some announcers do and it sickens me. I guess it’s all about the ring. Doesn’t matter if you’re a loser for the longest time as long as you’re great for one year, then it’s all good. It’s unfair, but that’s the way it is. Oh well.
by ptrck on May 9, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A shooter and slasher in one,
like Howard used to be.
S-St. Louis, R-Rams, D-Dallas, M-Mavericks, A-Arizona, D-Diamondbacks.
by srdmad on May 9, 2009 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know what to say...
NBA statement:
At the end of the Dallas-Denver game this evening, the officials missed an intentional foul committed by Antoine Wright on Carmelo Anthony, just prior to Anthony’s three-point basket.
http://mavsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/05/the-league-comes-clean.html
by ptrck on May 9, 2009 9:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
A lot of fucking use that is now.
Just like JR Smith throwing a punch at Wright.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
by jonthefon on May 9, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We all know they made a "mistake"
telling us that they did make a “mistake” means nothing.
S-St. Louis, R-Rams, D-Dallas, M-Mavericks, A-Arizona, D-Diamondbacks.
by srdmad on May 9, 2009 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not one for conspiracy theories...
But it sure has the feel that the refs have been told that if a game comes down to a game-winning and/or tying shot, let it go, so “that amazing can happen”. I was at the AAC and everyone in the arena assumed, just like Wright did, that we had given up our last foul. It had the feel as if a call had been made 30 secs ago and one of the players was just hoisting one up for fun. If AW had pushed him any harder they would’ve given him a flagrant. I understand all of the “it shouldn’t have had to come down to that” banter, but that’s how the game is played..ups and downs. If AW’s foul get’s called, they inbound to Melo and he hits the 3, I’d still be upset, but this one the official’s can’t let happen. This needs to be addressed by the league in the offseason. The commisioner’s office doesn’t get to decide who’s playing in the conference finals.
by bbob on May 9, 2009 9:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"The commisioner’s office doesn’t get to decide who’s playing in the conference finals."
That’s historically inaccurate.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
by jonthefon on May 9, 2009 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember last year when Barry was clearly fouled on a 3pt shot, but wasn't called
G4 (I believe) against the Lakers. Is there any another sport where referees can directly affect the outcome of games?
by ptrck on May 9, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Both kinds of football.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
by jonthefon on May 9, 2009 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so "that amazing can happen"
Love it.
by Thehomerpimpson on May 9, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What did Cuban
do to Bennett Salvatore’s mother? Unbelievable.
The 2008-2009 Dallas Mavericks are the biggest teases in the world.
"We love Wash.....As a team, we want Wash as the head of that team." Hamilton
"The NFL made me undergo a psychiatric evaluation......Please. It was an accident. If I wanted to post a picture of my penis I wouldn't have been all hunched over."- Chris Cooley.
by sprite on May 9, 2009 10:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Grow up
I doubt any of you complain if Melo misses that shot.
by KC Gunner on May 9, 2009 10:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
But the Nuggets would be complaining. The league admitted it was the wrong call. Now get the fuck off this board.
The 2008-2009 Dallas Mavericks are the biggest teases in the world.
"We love Wash.....As a team, we want Wash as the head of that team." Hamilton
"The NFL made me undergo a psychiatric evaluation......Please. It was an accident. If I wanted to post a picture of my penis I wouldn't have been all hunched over."- Chris Cooley.
by sprite on May 9, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What do you want, a cookie?
Grow some pubes and go back to your board.
You’ll know what we feel like when Lakers fans infiltrate your board in the conference finals.
by nivarsity on May 10, 2009 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Read my post Joe Schmoe...
Everyone in the arena (except the officials, obviously) thought that was a foul. We wouldn’t be compaining, we wouldve said it was a foul and should have been called as such.
Now let’s take Scenario B and the foul is actually called correctly. Melo hits both of his free throws, Dirk misses the same shot, and its OT. The Nugs thwart the Mavs in OT and still get the win. Atleast the players won it, not the officials.
by bbob on May 9, 2009 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that it’s funny that after the Mavs blew numerous chances to put the game out of reach, failed to properly wrap up Melo to ensure he couldn’t take that shot, failed to score their own game winning shot…it’s still the officials that ‘won it’ for the Nugs and ‘lost’ it for the Mavs. Right.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on May 9, 2009 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, they didn't lost it for the mavs ...
they just suck at their jobs. They are wrong. They had to call it because that was what they are paid to do … to the hell if the mavs win or lose after that … do the right thing and that’s all we ask.
by hugommorais on May 9, 2009 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that’s how contact on Melo was called all game and all series. In other words, it wasn’t called. You want them to make an exception ‘cause it’s the last play? Or because the Mavs ‘wanted’ to foul? That was less contact then numerous other no calls against Melo. I agree it should have been a call…just like nearly every other time that Melo gets bounced around without a whistle.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on May 9, 2009 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that is our point ...
That was a foul, and that has to be called … the refs just suck all game long, but they are clutch at the end of the game and go to another level …
by hugommorais on May 9, 2009 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your team has had a double digit ft advantage over Dallas for the whole series , what the hell are you whining about? Game one alone Denver 36 fts to Dallas 14 with Anthony shooting 7-7 more ft shots than any other player in that game…..should I go on ? Or can you stop with all the Melo gets no call crap well here…..Game 2 Denver 31-40 fts to 23-30 for Dallas and Anthony shot 8-9 in that game ..only two players shot more than him and that was Dirk and Nene. Game 3 Denver 32-40 fts to 40-49 Dallas and Anthony shot 11-14 fts. I’m still looking for the part of where he gets no calls from the refs? Please bring facts again and not your biased thuggette opinion.
by daniel1234 on May 10, 2009 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The NBA acknowledged a foul should've been called on the last play.
What exactly is unclear about that?
by nivarsity on May 10, 2009 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You must have missed the part where I said, “I agree it should have been a call”.
What exactly is unclear about that?
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on May 10, 2009 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You guys are as stubborn as Damp's hands..
Can you not admit, if the official’s had called the obvious foul, the foul in which the NBA has officially said should have been called, the game would have AT VERY LEAST gone to overtime?
For fuck’s sake, winning teams can still admit fault, evidently not their fans.
by bbob on May 9, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't say it was a 'good' call.
I’m saying it doesn’t make sense to ignore the other 48 minutes of the game and say that one foul call is the reason a team won or lost. Like I said, the Mavs had ample opportunity to put that game away and failed to do it. That’s on them…not the refs. Even if it was called, the Mavs had a foul to give. The Nugs would have inbounded the ball and would have had the same opportunity to hit the game winning shot.
Look…it was a bad call. But it played a very small role in the game. There were at least 20 bad calls on both sides…do you really want to knit pick every single one and say it cost the Mavs the game? Or do you just want to be mad about the one call that is an easy scapegoat for a frustrating loss?
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on May 9, 2009 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
played a small part?
Posternutbag it played a huge part. Regardless the other parts of the game it was 105-103 and that no call helped Denver win. I don’t care your theory or what you think. Simple fact the game was Dallas up by 2 no matter if they missed ft’s at the 4 minute mark or a call was not made at the 10 minute mark or dirk missed a shot at the 2 minute mark. Get this thru that crap talking head of yours …..the GAME WAS 105 -103 at that point in time …the only score that mattered at that moment and the ref screwed it up…..Get it? Or do i need to spell it out better for you?
by daniel1234 on May 9, 2009 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s one thing that happened our of a virtually infinite number of factors that determined the outcome of the game. I know it’s ‘huge’ in your mind; 5 seconds is a very small part of a 48 minute game.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on May 9, 2009 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then you're conceding it was a bad call?
by nivarsity on May 10, 2009 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For like the ten thousandth time. It was a bad call…or rather non-call. Just like the twenty other bad calls and non-calls in the game.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on May 10, 2009 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I'm confusing the two attention-craving Nuggets fans on here.
KC Gunner earlier said
B) I don’t think it was clearly a foul.
by nivarsity on May 10, 2009 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spell it out better?
I think we all know how to spell scapegoat. The mavs never should have put themselves in a situation where a ref could determine the outcome. With the game as close as it was how does Carmelo get a dunk in the final few seconds. A DUNK? There is no excuse for that. Its no different than boxing when a fighter doesn’t finish a fight and it goes to the judges. You don’t blame the judges when you don’t when you had your chance to end it yourself.
by loplop on May 11, 2009 2:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, everyone that ended the game I will knit pick, every team, every game.
And you know you’d do the same if it cost the Nugs.
Listen man, we aren’t bombarding your board lamenting on how many times KMart has elbowed Dirk in the ribs, or how many time JR has given a dirty shot to just about any player on the Mavs team. I understand you have team spirit, I would think it’s obvious to you that most fans on this board are the same. I’m honestly suprised you would expect to post on the opposing team’s board and expect the fans not to disagree with you.
by bbob on May 9, 2009 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Simple fact
If that call wouldn’t have been made and Melo missed the shot and Dallas won …..this guy and all Denver fans would be bitching and whining to no end and thats a fact. They would be complaining of the same 6 seconds of the game that a ref blew that we are yet he can feel good knowing his team won with the help of a ref. Period. And there is no way of knowing that they would have made a 3 point shot if the foul had been called , so lets get back to reality .
by daniel1234 on May 9, 2009 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This point isn't relevant.
Yes, if the Mavs had made more shots, they’d have won. If the Nuggets had made more shots, they’d have won by more.
The point is, the team that plays better should win. In the NBA you don’t have to outscore your opponent by 10, just by 1.
by nivarsity on May 10, 2009 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nba in general
I’ve tried to speak to the general blogging nation, only to be ignored.
The nba is as fake as the wwe. I will give you facts to prove it.
It started with the L.A. (Ican’t say lakers ‘cause they moved from Minnesota, how many lakes in L.A. ?) aquisition of Wilt, then kareem, then the no, 1 pick, which was
magic(homo)johnson from the Jazz, for adrian dantley, real bright of the jazz gm, huh??
It was orchastrated from the nba, Then the no 1 pick again from cleveland that was james worthy. For who? That was lost, or nobody honest will say. Of course the biggest
markets deserve the top 9 of 10 players because that will mean more money to the league. The nba has been going out of their way to help l.a. since the early 70’s.
WQhether it be through supposedly shrewd deals to get the best players or just outright cheating, see the Trailblazers or Kings series during ths Shaq years. Pro wrestling could learn a thing or two from david stern when it comes to cheating. So many bandwagon fans root for l.a. ‘cause they win all the time, DUHHHHHHHHH
I HATE THE nba BECAUSE SO MANY IDIOTS BELIEVE IT’S JUST. (MOSTLY l.a.FANS)
by nathanfrigerio on May 9, 2009 10:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Being a magic fan and not a supporter of these officials…
I feel extremely sorry for all you fans…its not fair to you…it just seems like the mavs always get the bad end of officiating errors
its a sad day for the NBA, just not fair
by GoMagic on May 9, 2009 11:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Just about every fan of every team in the NBA thinks their team ‘always get the bad end of officiating errors’.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on May 9, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, you're telling that the magic fan is complaining because he is a mavs fan
and his team is on the bad end of officiating? … you’re genious
by hugommorais on May 9, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that what I said?
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on May 9, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you need to work on your reading comprehension.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on May 9, 2009 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah ...
you should do that first … because the guy that your replied is a magic fan that says the mavs are at the bad end of officiating errors … And you say that every fan of every team in the nba thinks their team always get the bad end of officiating errors …
If I can understand well, he is a magic fan and is not talking about the magic …
by hugommorais on May 9, 2009 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It doesn’t matter who he’s referring to. I simply stated that “Just about every fan of every team in the NBA thinks their team ‘always get the bad end of officiating errors’.” Any meaning beyond that you are inaccurately inferring.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on May 9, 2009 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe i'm inferring because you replied to his comment ...
by hugommorais on May 9, 2009 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on May 9, 2009 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you need to work on your writing comprehension.
Your statement made no sense.
by nivarsity on May 10, 2009 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Writing comprehension? Okay.
What didn’t make sense to you? I’ll try to clarify.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on May 10, 2009 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A Magic fan said the Mavs seem disproportionately hurt by bad officiating.
You then said that every fan thinks their own team gets disproportionately hurt by bad officiating.
When clearly, based on the example you’re respond to, that’s not the case.
by nivarsity on May 10, 2009 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So do you think that most fans think their team regularly gets the benefit of the doubt when it comes to officiating?
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on May 10, 2009 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a non-sequitur.
Person 1: I think Mars is the best planet.
Person 2, in response: Most people think Jupiter is the best planet.
by nivarsity on May 10, 2009 12:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How is that unrelated.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on May 10, 2009 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be a perfectly logical response to Person 1. This conversation has just gotten strange.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on May 10, 2009 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The person before you DIRECTLY CONTRADICTED WHAT YOU SAID.
You seem to think that is evidence, somehow.
I don’t claim to know what other fans think of the refs to their teams, but I’d bet that many fans acknowledge the Mavs have been on the bad side of the some of the worst officiating in NBA history.
Except, of course, the Nuggets, since Carmelo Anthony gets fouled on every play.
by nivarsity on May 10, 2009 12:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who contradicted what I said? How?
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on May 10, 2009 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why am I continuing this conversation? This is going absolutely nowhere.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on May 10, 2009 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ive just figured Posternutbag out…..He whines in posts about Melo getting no love from the refs and I give him game facts and he doesn’t respond. You give him facts about the end of the game and he comes back with well Denver would have had 5 secs to win the game anyway. This guy lives in a fantasy world of whatever he says must be a fact. He is not a basketball fan he is a thuggette fan only. He has love for his team and not the NBA in general. He sees only things from a biased Thuggette point of view. Example: the call was blown but we would have one the game anyways after inbounding. I give up! You just can’t argue with an idiot cause he just brings your ass to his level and beats the hell out of you with his experience. Goodnight mavs, look forward to game 4 Monday. Where I think us poor mavs that need refs to call fouls to help us as Poster said, will show up and play with pride and dignity.
by daniel1234 on May 10, 2009 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep…you’ve got me.
Nice work.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on May 10, 2009 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
bad foul call
The NBA is really ripping off the fans who love the game of basketball. With the economy the way that it is it is so unfair to the fans who still manage to come out and try to have a good time and leave the every day grind behind from a hard work week. It i so obvious that the referee’s are betting on these games Cuban was right when he said “The NBA games are fixed”! The Artest bit, the Kobe bit look around, the NBA is delibertly messing up these games and that is not okay. ……Looks Like to me STERN has his hand in the pot too! Sadly the fans and the players have to pay the price for their GREED The NBA SUCKS!!! Bring on the NFL baby!
by luvslf on May 9, 2009 11:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Part of me wants the Mavs to come out in Game 4 having already accepted the fact that they aren’t going to win, and do nothing but serve up the dirtiest fouls the league has ever seen, as if they were the bastard children of Karl Malone and a clone of Karl Malone that was raised in a cage, beaten every day, and fed nothing but fishheads. So bad that they have to forfeit the first 30 games of next season because the entire team is suspended.
The only problem with that is:
1) The Mavs just aren’t that badass or tough.
2) If they did actually intentionally beat up the Nuggets that bad, then it wouldn’t be such an obvious sham when the Lakers sweep them and David Stern gets his dream match up between the rapist and the guy who took the rapist’s Sprite endorsements.
by Doctor_Apocalypse on May 9, 2009 11:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
I guessed I missed that part where a jury convicted Kobe. My reality included an event where it DNA evidence showed the woman had intercourse with another man prior to her rape kit exam.
What’s the weather like in your world?
by KC Gunner on May 9, 2009 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of all my ridiculous claims, that’s the one you have a problem with?
I’m still trying to figure out how Karl Malone is supposed to have bastard children with a clone of himself.
by Doctor_Apocalypse on May 9, 2009 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
bad foul call
I totally agree! Its all about the money baby for a small piece of paper it carries a lot of weight “mean green” the almighty dollar will make you want to hollar. “are you ready for some football”?!!!!! I am.
by luvslf on May 9, 2009 11:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
foul Officials
I say BOYCOTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by luvslf on May 9, 2009 11:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
kcgunner &posternut
Funny I was just reading all their quotes during the game on their blog, and all the whining and bitching these two were doing about the refs cracked me up. Amazing how these two , after a ridiculous no call goes for them , that they are both here stirring up trouble looking as if they are mature people. They would be the first to bitch if they didn’t call the foul and he missed the 3 and game over. Instead we mav fans get to watch two little immature nuggets come on our board and stir up the shit. Too funny.
by daniel1234 on May 9, 2009 11:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m not trying to ‘stir up trouble’. I’m frustrated that a great shot by Melo and a hard fought win by the Nugs is being dismissed and overlooked by a single bad call. I think there is a lot more to it than that and I’m presenting my side of the story. I don’t think you’ll find any comment from Pickaxe and Roll that’ll contradict anything that I’ve said here. I don’t think I’ve tried to be offensive or preemptively insult anyone…I think you just don’t care for my opinion.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on May 9, 2009 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course you're trying to stir up trouble.
You come to the other team’s message board after they lose a killer playoff game decided on a questionable call.
Go back to your own board. Let us stew here. We aren’t over there bitching about the refs, and we won’t be over there mocking you when the Lakers pound your team out of the playoffs in four games.
by nivarsity on May 10, 2009 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im reasonable
But where in your opinion does a fact state? How does anything that happened in the game change the fact that the score was 105-103 at that moment? Where is a fact that anything Dallas didn’t do in that game to help build a bigger lead change that score of 105-103? I have played enough sports and watched enough to know that regardless how crappy our team might of played the bottom line is they were up by 2 when that no call was clown period. Now show me a fact that disputes that moment?And please not an opinion of your biased thinking.
by daniel1234 on May 9, 2009 11:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The bottom line is Dallas was up 2 and Melo hit an amazing 3. Is that fact enough for you?
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on May 9, 2009 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fact two: Even if it was called the Nugs would have had roughly 5 seconds to inbound the ball and hit a game winning shot anyway.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on May 9, 2009 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fact three: Mavs had a chance to shoot there own game winning shot and missed it. Yes it was only a second…but I’ve seen teams score in less time than that.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on May 9, 2009 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey dickface. Your team won. Get over it. There’ll be plenty of time to be butt-hurt when the rapist comes back to Colorado. Literally.
by Doctor_Apocalypse on May 9, 2009 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fact four: If Wright would have just wrapped Melo up and prevented the shot like any intelligent player would then none of this would have been an issue.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on May 9, 2009 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean wrap him up and get called for a flagrant 1 and Denver get shots and the ball? lmao
by daniel1234 on May 10, 2009 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The way these playoffs have gone, Wright could have chokeslammed Melo through the scorer’s table and it would have taken 2 days for the league to call a flagrant.
by Doctor_Apocalypse on May 10, 2009 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sad thing is People could breathe on a player tonight and get a foul call but yet a obvious slap at the arm that knocked it off the ball infront of a ref and a foul to give and no call…….NBA doesn’t need more turmoil of refs changing the outcome of games. Good thing for your team that Melo made that shot cause if not the tables would have been reversed and Denver in an uproar. With ol man George , Saying that was the worst no call he has ever seen. Does anyone really like Coach Carl and his cocky attitude besides Thuggets fans?
by daniel1234 on May 10, 2009 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem is he did what every NBA player does at the end of a close game with a foul to give and this ref crew blew it and all we can do is wonder why……Plain as the sun is bright on replay that he slapped his wrist hard enough to dislodge it from the ball.
by daniel1234 on May 10, 2009 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sad thing is People could breathe on a player tonight and get a foul call
Exactly! I think we both know that the Mavs can’t play with the Nugs if the refs don’t call the game that way. Instead of blaming the ref for your loss…you should probably thank them for keeping you in the game to begin with.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on May 10, 2009 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So now without refs calling fouls that should be called in a basketball, its basically helping us poor mavs stay in a game with your godly nugs? Dude you are so full of your crap. Denver plays a very aggressive style of bball I give you that but in a NBA game its suppose to be called when you bump and shove players……This is not football….I watch that sport when its that time.
by daniel1234 on May 10, 2009 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
its suppose to be called when you bump and shove players
Bump…depends. Shove…yes. Black and White is easy; unfortunately, the game is played in the realm of gray.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on May 10, 2009 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You say it as though game-winning shots are easy.
If the foul had been called, it is unlikely that Anthony would have made a 3. If he’d shot a 3, there’s about a 3/10 chance he’d have made it, based on the evidence that is his entire career.
by nivarsity on May 10, 2009 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They would have had roughly 2 seconds
"Officiating has to be a science, not an art" - Rick Carlisle
by Norsktroll on May 10, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But if you cut things too finely, you risk a 24 second violation...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
by timbo on May 10, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Melo’s shot shouldn’t have exited per the NBA …..NEXT fact and please no more nugs had 5 secs to win anyway………they had roughly 2 secs when the foul should’ve been called .
by daniel1234 on May 10, 2009 12:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I know its late when my typos are worse than a refs bad eyesight lol
by daniel1234 on May 10, 2009 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey so as a Nuggets fan I am obviously happy about winning the game, and most likely the series now up 3-0, I was disappointed by the ref’s calls tonight. I agree that the last one should have been a foul which would have given the nuggets the ball with only 5 seconds left. That is a very hard shot to make but you never know what would happen. Whatever happened it should have been decided by the players. However this game was never decided by the players. The refs did not allow either team to get into a rhythm when they had the momentum. This includes the mavs when the crowd was into it, which was not suprisingly very much.
I would have been just as angry as any of you had Melo missed the shot with the non-call. That said I do agree that the whole game the Mavs should have not let the Nuggets back in because Nuggets were playing horribly in the first half and even through the 3rd quarter. If the Mavs had done what they needed to do in this game it should never have come down to these last seconds as they were obviously playing better throughout the first half.
by ColoradoAggie11 on May 10, 2009 12:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think we all agree with this...
But thank you for helping us remember that some Nuggets’ fans can still see a bad call/uncall when it happens.
by bbob on May 10, 2009 1:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the nuggets shoot bad and its always that they just didnt play good ….the mavs havent played good at all in the 4th quarter of this series and you fans say its because of the nuggets D. Wow !!! lol Dallas has only played good for half this series dont just act as if Denver is the only one that plays bad.
by daniel1234 on May 10, 2009 12:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
THIS IS POSTERNUGBAG WITH HIS BEST COMMENT OF THE NIGHT..........
We kicked your @$$ bitch…Mavs suck. Have fun watching the Nugs in the conference finals.
Sucks to be inferior doesn’t it…not that I’d know.
“C” is for Championship…that’s good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on May 9, 2009 10:51 PM PDT
This comment is from a guy , who is a fan of a team that got past the first round since 1994 and he had the audacity to make this comment to me. This is the best thing I have read and laughed at all day……thanks for posting to most moronic thread ….I needed a huge laugh…….Goodnight on that one lmaoooooooooooooooooooo.
by daniel1234 on May 10, 2009 1:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
3-0…what’s inferior about that?
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on May 10, 2009 1:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're a fucking classless troll.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
by jonthefon on May 10, 2009 1:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ahhhh….irony at its best.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on May 10, 2009 1:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Poster on your blog you are cursing and calling me many names and then you come here trying to look so mature…….first what personality of yours am I responding to right now? Wait never mind its the way you are…..trying to make yourself look more the ummm good sportsman on our blog when your actually just no different than a 15 year old boy. And please call me names like in your blog I get a kick out of it. Anyways, I guess a person of your stature needs to gloat and make yourself feel SUPERIOR to us as your team finally has done something in 15 years. You have a talented team and good luck the rest of the journey.!!
by daniel1234 on May 10, 2009 1:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you know what "irony" means?
And yes, it is classless to gloat after a victory on an opponent’s board.
Then again, you’re a Nuggets fan. This is probably the best day in your franchise’s history.
by nivarsity on May 10, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I and everyone else can see your comment and know what you meant (besides a thuggette fan ofcourse) . Hilarious!!
by daniel1234 on May 10, 2009 1:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I meant we’re 3-0…what’s inferior about that?
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on May 10, 2009 1:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In your mind make it look better but I can actually read and your cocky response made you look like an ass now deal with that and stop trying to play mind games, like you do with your children . I am not your kid and this is not your home. :)
by daniel1234 on May 10, 2009 1:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
3-0
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on May 10, 2009 1:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re absolutely right. I will. Honestly, the only reason that I commented here in the first place is because I thought it was unfair to write off a great game winning shot by Melo and a hard fought win by the Nugs on a single call. I didn’t expect anyone here to agree with me…but I wanted to get my opinion out here none the less (that’s what these blogs are all about…right?). You’ll find that my original posts were respectful and I tried not to gloat.
The conversation obviously devolved from there. I began to retaliate to unnecessary name calling and abusive language which was the point that I should have left the conversation. I have been participating in SB Nation blogs for a while and have rarely had this kind of problem. Nevertheless, I apologize for participating in the defilement of your blog and Pickaxe and Roll and will no longer be responding to negative comments. Thank you for the sound advice. ;-)
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on May 10, 2009 1:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad that's settled then.
I’m not really sure of your intent, but I think a lot of the Mavs fans here would agree that Melo’s shot was legit because of the non-call, meaning that it was play on. It just seemed tactless of the refs not to call a foul in that situation, when they knew it was coming as an intentional foul. I wouldn’t have been surprised if Denver fans were in uproar if Melo had missed or not put up a shot, and probably would’ve said that there was a foul and that the no call distracted Anthony.
I guess I’ll offer congrats over at Pickaxe and Roll once the Nuggets polish off this series…at some point.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
by jonthefon on May 10, 2009 2:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If that's how you handle success...
karma is going to fuck you deep in the ass.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
by jonthefon on May 10, 2009 1:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate NBA REFS
Let’s face it.. it’s not basketball people hate..
It’s the officiating.. always has been. Basketball is a beautiful, pure sport.
NBARefsSuck.com
by nbarefssuck_com on May 10, 2009 1:05 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
flimsey foul
its definitely a bad call..but if i were that player i would wrap my arms around melo to make sure i get the call. its the playoffs give them a hard foul!!!
by clover kidd on May 10, 2009 1:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Yup, they missed the call….but they missed plenty of calls, all night….the Mavs shot way more ft’s and Denver got called for more fouls. Refs didn’t want the Nugs to win this, nor did the league…think about it….do you really think they want a sweep and to lose out on making money for a few more games and a longer series…DUH!!!….and uhh, in case you didn’t know, the Nugs havent ever done shit in the playoffs, so refs being biased to them, and being against such a large market as Dallas, that’s just stupid…think people. Nugs should have won this game by 20 points long before that shot…not to mention the dumbass raised his arms up like he was avoiding contact…rofl
by Nugs09 on May 10, 2009 4:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bullshit
That’s a difference of 9 between teams in terms of FTs attempted. But I’ll give you a break if you don’t believe in home cooking. Both teams were pretty much on an even keel in terms of attacking the rim.
Dallas being a large market hasn’t meant jack shit to us in the past.
Arrogance again: “Nugs should have won this game by 20 points”.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
by jonthefon on May 10, 2009 5:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a problem with someone who comes here whining that Dallas finally shot more fts than Denver. Nugs open your eyes man Denver shot 36 fts in game one to Dallas 14. Game 2 was a little better and yet Dallas was alot more aggressive and still couldnt get calls that your team did. Your not winning this arguement so back off of it. I read your posts during game 3 in a Denver fans post and man you all think everytime down the floor that your team is fouled. I know you fans don’t have much experience in the whole playoff atmosphere but let me give you a little advice. Basically a foul could be called everytime down the court for every team but is that what we want like in game 3? Also you need to really evaluate your own team and how they play defense as they are aggressive and a hacking type team and yet not everything is called on them, so why aren’t you whining and belly aching about that? Take a good look at the wrongs of your team and what they get away with before you go and say a silly statement of the NBA wants Dallas to win. the NBA hates Dallas and will not let us have a chance if Cuban is the owner , so your theory as you say is off the wall crap that won’t stick. The calls will go differently against the Lakers and man will it be fun to see the whining that will come from your blogs.
by daniel1234 on May 10, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol again
I didnt whine about the ft’s…merely pointed it out to all the jackasses on here that are whining about the refs costing them the game. You’re probably right, Nugs fans probably will be upset next round, in case the world hasn’t noticed the Lakers are the beneficiary of calls 95% of the time…and if you’ve read my posts before, you know that all I’ve asked for is for the refs to call a fair game, for both sides. Tough pill to swallow at the end of the game, but it could have gone either way, Wright lifted his arms as if to signify he didn’t touch him, Melo rolled off and made a great shot. He could have just as easily missed it, and it’s 2-1. To the poster above you..yes the Nuggets should have won by 20….we made 2 of our first 17 shots… that’s horrible and very unlike the team, so that’s why I say that.
by Nugs09 on May 10, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are being an arrogant jackass
when you say that Denver should’ve won by 20 because they started off crap. What about the bad stretches played by the Mavs? Does that mean they should’ve won by 20 similarly?
Then again, I have a creeping suspicion that you’re a bandwagoner, having only jumped on this year.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
by jonthefon on May 11, 2009 12:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
jon the fon
Nope…born and raised here in Denver, and a fan of all teams here, thru thick and thin. Broncos, Avs, Nuggets( yes even when they were the Rockets before the Nugs…I’ve had plenty of heartbreaking years) Rockies(used to be the Bears). Definitely not a bandwagon guy, and I will say it again, I want the refs to call a fair game FOR BOTH TEAMS, I wouldn’t want anything to be officiated unfairly. Yes the Mavs have had poor stretches, as have the Nuggets, but 2 for 17, I dont think either team went thru any drought that bad…..the Nuggets played poorly and were fortunate to get the win under the circumstances. But saying the refs cost the Mavericks that game…seriously, that’s beyond ignorant.
by Nugs09 on May 11, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hoopshype.com
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S-St. Louis, R-Rams, D-Dallas, M-Mavericks, A-Arizona, D-Diamondbacks.
by srdmad on May 10, 2009 10:02 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Talk about a bad weekend
"Officiating has to be a science, not an art" - Rick Carlisle
by Norsktroll on May 10, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Refs are obviously Still fixing games
There is absolutly no excuse for that foul not to be called. It seems to happen every year and Wunderlick is usually involved
by Gp77420 on May 10, 2009 11:01 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nuggets fan here.
I am not an NBA fan per se, but i do follow the game.
I used to think the officiating the in the NHL and the NFL were more likely to influence the outcome of a game (hello, Ed Hochuli), but I’m convinced the NBA and their inconsistent refereeing has them both beaten on all counts.
Now, I’m not a conspiracy theorist and don’t subscribe to the “Bettman is pulling all the strings” theory of the poster somewhere above, but boy that game sucked all the way around for both teams. No flow. Quick whistles. It looked like it was tough to get into the game as a Mavs fan as well, with all the whistles blowing…..
Am I glad the Nugs won? You bet! Do I think Melo is and was the victim of numerous non-calls? Yup. Should the Mavs have not allowed the game to get to the point where CA could win it? Yes. Should Dirk have held the ball a little longer? Mos def. And why did Wright throw his hands up in the air as if to say, “I didn’t foul him!” when that’s exactly what he was trying to do? Habit? ;) I didn’t get that…..
Having said all that, bottom line is that the Mavs were up by 2 with 7 seconds left in the 4th. No matter what had happened before, that is the reality of what had transpired to that point.
All that said, that was an incredibly shitty call to have to stomach when you guys were practically back in the series only down 2-1.
If we do win the series I can only hope Bettman and his officials let the Nugs/Thugs play good, hard, tight D against Kobe and the Lakers. sigh wishful thinking, most likely, as I have zero faith in the NBA at this point……
Take care all.
The Artist formerly known as "DenverCardsFan" .
Go Nuggets!
by HockeyHippie on May 10, 2009 12:58 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
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