Mavs trade No. 22 for three picks
The Portland TrailBlazers acquired the 22nd pick in Thursday's NBA draft from the Dallas Mavericks in exchange for the 24th and 56th picks in this year's draft, and worst of their second round picks in 2010, according to a league source.
The trade has been agreed to in principle by the two teams. It should be finalized by the league office later today.
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Whatever.
What to do with the extra picks? Oh know! Hello random Euro guys.
Does Zach Phillips have to choke a bitch to get to Frisco?
by sprite on Jun 24, 2009 4:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ugh
what the crap is going on??? This is a great idea…let’s stockpile on a bunch of spare players in this years draft…if something big doesn’t happen tomorrow I am going to find Donnie Nelson and kick him in the nuts…
by smt83 on Jun 24, 2009 4:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
cuban on twitter
we traded the Mavs #22 pick for Blazers #24 and 2 second rd picks. 1 This year, 1 next. We think we can get our guy at 24
"Daryl (Morey, the Rockets general manager) and I were talking this morning. We both discussed how great Tracy is in the playoffs. There's very few people who have the ability to step up their games in the playoffs and he does. So we're not looking to run away from Tracy." - Houston Rockets Owner, Leslie Alexander
muhahahaha WTF?!?!
by zkmavz on Jun 24, 2009 4:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If there guy is Collison I'm calling myself a genius
Pretty worthless trade.
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by Wes Cox on Jun 24, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
I’d much rather grab up a Christmas than waste a roster spot with another Hassell.
We really do need some youth.
by brettgardner on Jun 24, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Christmas at 56 or 24?
Don’t get it at 24 and wouldn’t last to 56.
Does Zach Phillips have to choke a bitch to get to Frisco?
by sprite on Jun 24, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just a name
He wouldn’t be there at 56 obviously, but I meant his type, of which there are plenty in this draft (about 10-15 true first rounders).
I’d rather have Jodie friggin’ Meeks than another vet minimum spare.
by brettgardner on Jun 24, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guys you are going to get at 56
aren’t that much different than guys can just invite to camp. The one benefit is if it’s a Euro guy you can hold their rights.
More picks the better I suppose, and if you know who you want will be there at 24 why not.
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by Wes Cox on Jun 24, 2009 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
uh, ok.
The 2010 second round picks are Portland and Chicago.
draft dejuan blair
by Cablinasian on Jun 24, 2009 4:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What is Donnie drinking?
I want some
"Oh, get a job? Just get a job? Why don't I strap on my job helmet, and squeeze down into a job cannon and fire off into job land, where jobs grow on jobbies!"
by Marie on Jun 24, 2009 4:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Any chance they are just trying to get an extra pick to bundle in a bigger trade package?
by bbob on Jun 24, 2009 4:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
nice way to look at things
on the upside, the extra 2 picks (assuming #24 will be part of the roster) can be used as assets
by ptrck on Jun 24, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats funny that is the same reason some blazer fans said we did the trade for
We were interested in acquiring a player for a later bigger trade
"Knowledge will get you from A to B. Creativity will get you anywhere." Einstein
by Garden of ODEN on Jun 25, 2009 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
apparently, the Mavs need another guy at the Italian league or something
basically, it’s just 22 for 24. what’s the point?
by ptrck on Jun 24, 2009 5:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Closing my eyes...
and going to my happy place.
by randomguy on Jun 24, 2009 5:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Someone explain something to me
I was under the impression the Mavs were not allowed to trade their pick this year until after they made the pick. How is it official before tomorrow night if that is the case? Also, why don’t the Mavs wait and see who falls to 22 before deciding if they want to do this trade?
by smg31085 on Jun 24, 2009 5:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
To be honest, I wasn't clear on this either.
But here’s an explanation on how that actually works.
Teams are restricted from trading away future first round draft picks in consecutive years. This is known as the “Ted Stepien Rule.” Stepien owned the Cavs from 1980-83, and made a series of bad trades (such as the above-mentioned 1982 trade) that cost the Cavs several years’ first round picks. As a result of Stepien’s ineptitude, teams are now prevented from making trades which might leave them without a first round pick in consecutive future years.
The Stepien rule applies only to future first round picks. For example, if this is the 2005-06 season, then a team can trade its 2006 first round pick without regard to whether they had traded their 2005 pick, since their 2005 pick is no longer a future pick. But they can’t trade away both their 2006 and 2007 picks, since both are future picks. Teams sometimes work around this rule by trading first round picks in alternate years.
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by Wes Cox on Jun 24, 2009 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
I still don’t get why they don’t just wait and see who falls to 22 first. If Terrence Williams gets picked at 23 I’m gonna be reallllly mad
by smg31085 on Jun 24, 2009 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He wouldn't have made it to 22 anyways...
by N41D on Jun 24, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, highly unlikely.
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by Wes Cox on Jun 24, 2009 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but now Earl Clark might?
weird.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 25, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't see it either...
I refuse to believe he gets past Detroit at 15…
by N41D on Jun 25, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be fine with Collison
and an Aggie (Elonu, Carter) or Leo Lyons
There’s a chance Maynor, Lawson, Teague slip to us at 24 but it’s doubtful. Apparently Casspi was the Blazers’ target to move up to 22 ahead of the Kings, who wanted him, too?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 24, 2009 6:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
if we draft an aggie
and we have 2 freakin loser aggies on this team ill end it all
"Daryl (Morey, the Rockets general manager) and I were talking this morning. We both discussed how great Tracy is in the playoffs. There's very few people who have the ability to step up their games in the playoffs and he does. So we're not looking to run away from Tracy." - Houston Rockets Owner, Leslie Alexander
muhahahaha WTF?!?!
by zkmavz on Jun 24, 2009 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe we can get Law from the Warriors after that?
call it a hat trick of horrible Aggies?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 25, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They should have
Traded the 22, stack house, damp….and some how make some deals for proven talent…not un proven rookies on a weak draft… Man what a disapointment if they sit still!!! There is Okafur and Rip Hamilton who are both gettable!!!!And both of them will be on different teams because another franchise will be smart enough to make a deal for them. And then theres still the mid level exception and more likeley for a good solid vet to come if we have a good enough team…We wont get anything GOOD with the midlevel if we atay the way we are….frustrating!!!!!!
All warfare is based on deception.
by aaronp on Jun 24, 2009 6:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
well because its obvious
the Mavs are still going to try to build around Dirk and try to win now…they are not in rebuild mode if they were they would trade Dirk and start over real young… Dirks 31 and Kidds old why stock up on young talent that might not even be NBA ready for a couple of years by then Dirks on the down side of his career San Antonio just got better and we were neck and neck with them fighting for 6.7.8 spot are you kidding me it makes perfect sense…we lack at the 2 and 5 spot so we give up Stack, Damp a few picks maybe Wright and fill the holes…Kidd, Hammilton, Howard, Dirk, Okafur….and still have Bass and Terry coming off the bench and sign a decent PG with the Mid level…How is that stupid N41D?
All warfare is based on deception.
by aaronp on Jun 24, 2009 7:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What if those trades don't happen?
You can’t just put Hammilton and Okafor in the starting lineup. If they get traded here, then yes, it looks like a good trade.
S-St. Louis, R-Rams, D-Dallas, M-Mavericks, A-Arizona, D-Diamondbacks.
by srdmad on Jun 24, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know there's a reply button?
Anyways… How does this trade affect any of the moves you arbitrarily throw out there?
They don’t want to stock up on young talent, so they trade back two spots and pick up two picks that don’t have any value? They’re still making a selection in this draft at this point, just so you’re clear on that… Only now they’ve made a trade 36 hours before the draft under the assumption they’ll be able to get their guy two picks later… What if he’s gone? What if Portland or Sacramento wants the same guy, and you’ve misread the situation? What if somebody higher on your draft board drops to 22, and you’ve already screwed the pooch by making this trade?
Why not wait until tomorrow night, when you’re on the clock at 22, and pull the trigger then? THAT is why this is stupid… They make this move 36 hours too early and pick up nothing of any kind of significance in the process…
Sorry, #56 in a bad draft class this year and/or a future second rounder aren’t going to help push trades through with other teams…
by N41D on Jun 24, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And...
Pick 24 isn’t going to have more value through trade than 22 would have, so I still fail to see what your point is…
by N41D on Jun 24, 2009 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you
I am throwing out trade scenariois because I dont like the idea of focusing on the draft to make the team better cause it deosnt happen that way especially when you have aging players that are the focus…Your not going to get anything of value out of this draft unless its 1-5 …I dont want another summer of trying to get excited about Gerald Green and D league players or the 24th pick and definietely not 2nd round pick thats gonna be another d-leaguer or play in europe. I am trying to throw out realistic trade scenarios not involving Shaq, Tmac, or AI real players that teams would practically hand us on a silver platter for stack, damp, a 1st round draft pick, Wright and cash, Players that make us realistically competitive and better.
All warfare is based on deception.
by aaronp on Jun 24, 2009 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the trade,
you never know, we might find a good player with one of these second round picks(Marc Gasol).
S-St. Louis, R-Rams, D-Dallas, M-Mavericks, A-Arizona, D-Diamondbacks.
by srdmad on Jun 24, 2009 8:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
(48th overall)
S-St. Louis, R-Rams, D-Dallas, M-Mavericks, A-Arizona, D-Diamondbacks.
by srdmad on Jun 24, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go back and find good second round picks...
In the last 10 picks of the draft since the draft went to two rounds…
Those picks have ZERO value…
by N41D on Jun 24, 2009 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
x
Millsap, Powe, Sessions, Amir Johnson, Gomes and Korver are just a few of the recent second half 2nd rounders to make substantive contributions.
Superstars? Hardly. But to say that they have “zero value” is hyperbole.
by brettgardner on Jun 24, 2009 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You and I both know...
The Mavericks are going to draft some foreign player and leave him in Europe for the rest of his life…
Nobody drafted in the back of the second round is making this team… So yeah, it has zero value…
by N41D on Jun 25, 2009 1:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look
Get Paul Harris from Syracuse with the 56th pick, he can turn to be good.
by tomkanti on Jun 24, 2009 9:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
ABSOLUTELY NO FUCKING REASON THEY NEEDED TO TRADE DOWN FOR THE SAKE OF TWO PILES OF SHIT SECOND-ROUNDERS.
IF THEY DON’T GET DARREN COLLISON NOW I WILL BE FUCKING THROWING SHIT AROUND THE PLACE.
Seriously though, pointless.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
by jonthefon on Jun 25, 2009 2:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
here's a reason
Draft Express points out that the price to move into the late 1st or early second is likely to be two seconds and 1.5 million dollars. Not defending the trade, but suppose the Mavs think they get their man at 24, (Maynor) and then come back and get slightly later pick to select Thornton.
That would be a justifiable reason for the trade. However, still can’t see why this could not have been done on the clock, with the pressure on Portland. If Portland is trying to get above Sac to select Casspi, the early action gives Sac opportunity to react.
by john holland on Jun 25, 2009 8:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
it's a sure thing now
why risk it later if that’s what they want to do? Portland could easily find another trade partner
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 25, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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