Mavs at Jazz Open Thread
by Wes Cox on Feb 1, 2010 7:30 PM CST
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I need a favor.
Followill said he’d try and use the word ‘blunderbuss’ in the next broadcast. I have to watch the Jazz announcers (LeagePass) so I won’t hear. Can someone tell me if he says it?!
that was actually the first thing I said when the game started.
“what the HELL is wrong with his head?”
hey ... barea is "defending" williams ...
ross was rejected by the rim … great game!
We really need to make trades...
Too much hate?
I think we will win this one somehow...
Too much hate?
lol. millsap can't guard dirk.
Cause I cut the brakes! Wildcard bitches! Yeeehaaawww! *jumps out of van*
jt heatin up. i'll take it.
Cause I cut the brakes! Wildcard bitches! Yeeehaaawww! *jumps out of van*
JET is the answer for this game...
Too much hate?
ha. fuck jazz fans. dicks.
Cause I cut the brakes! Wildcard bitches! Yeeehaaawww! *jumps out of van*
why? they cheered at dirk getting hit by the ball. fuck em.
Cause I cut the brakes! Wildcard bitches! Yeeehaaawww! *jumps out of van*
horseshit call. that was a charge.
Cause I cut the brakes! Wildcard bitches! Yeeehaaawww! *jumps out of van*
josh dumbass jumpshot coming.
Cause I cut the brakes! Wildcard bitches! Yeeehaaawww! *jumps out of van*
I hate it when he shoots a jumper..
Too much hate?
have faith we will win this one
Too much hate?
there it is. dumb jumper by josh.
Cause I cut the brakes! Wildcard bitches! Yeeehaaawww! *jumps out of van*
ronnie price has a punkass attitude.
Cause I cut the brakes! Wildcard bitches! Yeeehaaawww! *jumps out of van*
I suggest we get a TRUE center this time...
howard for martin… damp for dalembert
Too much hate?
when he does something, i'm sure they're surprised. they're paying him ungodly amounts of money.
Cause I cut the brakes! Wildcard bitches! Yeeehaaawww! *jumps out of van*
goddamn that was stupid, jj.
Cause I cut the brakes! Wildcard bitches! Yeeehaaawww! *jumps out of van*
does anyone want to loan me $3000
so i can buy super bowl tics?
go mavs, go colts, go rangers, go baylor
gotta move your comments real quick... annnnd got it.
Cause I cut the brakes! Wildcard bitches! Yeeehaaawww! *jumps out of van*
Only a miracle can save us now...
Too much hate?
yeah dude, 14-point plays exist!
Cause I cut the brakes! Wildcard bitches! Yeeehaaawww! *jumps out of van*
kirilenko has a big ass chin. wow he is unattractive.
Cause I cut the brakes! Wildcard bitches! Yeeehaaawww! *jumps out of van*
+1000000000000000000000000000000000000000
Too much hate?
The whole Mavericks organization is treating him like shit
He’s surrounded by underachievers. He must be thinking about leaving and I don’t blame him.
on paper, a team with Kidd, Josh, Marion, Dirk and Damp / Gooden is really good ...
but with josh on a point where he does shit everytime he touches the ball, where terry only looks for offense … i don’t know
exactly ...
we reverted to the point we were last season when we only try to play D, when our offense is not doing well … but not even that is working now
Whatever
We have no chance to make noise in the playoffs. And Cuban is hesitating when it comes to improve this roster, I guess he thinks 10×50 is enough.
i think he wants to go for a big trade next season ...
the problem is that we can miss some good trades now, and don’t get any big impact FA
I call smokescreen
If he refuses to do Howard for Iggy, even if we had to take Dalembert and give them Damp, and says the Mavs are going for a big FA this offseason, it’s because he doesn’t want to spend more money on the team. That trade would be a huge upgrade at both C and SG, but he doesn’t seem to like it, I don’t know why.
my dream is to wake up tomorrow, look at espn and see:
Mavericks trade Howard and Barea for 2 Gatorades and a towell
:P ... seriously, i can only think of him as being the reason ...
other thing to me is the rotation … tim thomas should be playing more, najera, ross, roddy, all those guys … dirk is playing too much, kidd too …
exactly!! it seems like, at the beginning of the season,
we were super deep and rotated a lot, and had different line-ups for different situations.
exactly, now we play Kidd, Terry, Marion, Dirk and Damp ...
Josh, Barea and Gooden, sometimes roddy off the bench … and that’s all … we have depth, but trading Hump is still a mistake to me
Dirk is alone
Damp’s body is collapsing. Howard has his head in his ass. Terry is streaky. Barea is good, but he’s too damn small to play any D. Roddy is raw. The only bright spots (apart from Dirk, of course) are Kidd and Marion.
And last but not least, Cuban, for the first time, is not willing to spend money to improve the team.
I call smokescreen
If he refuses to do Howard for Iggy, even if we had to take Dalembert and give them Damp, and says the Mavs are going for a big FA this offseason, it’s because he doesn’t want to spend more money on the team. That trade would be a huge upgrade at both C and SG, but he doesn’t seem to like it, I don’t know why.
i don't know if you are high on stats and all that ...
http://www.wagesofwins.com/AllTeamMid0910.html
look at that, see what josh and barea do … and what iggy and dalembert do
It's frustrating
The trade would cost Cuban tons of money, but he has to do it if he cares about winning a championship. Forget about the summer of 2010, it’d be nice to have LeBron, but I don’t see it happening. I’ve said it a million times: Iggy > Howard and Dalembert > Dampier. If a big trade doesn’t happen before the deadline, Cuban needs to sell. The spirit of the team is broken and a change is much needed.
right now, i can't see a way to get out of this
if it’s not by a trade on those terms. I’m almost sure Philly would trade both of them … If Cuban wanted to wait for the next season with Damp, he could try something like Josh, Gooden and Carrol for Iggy and Dalembert, Josh and Gooden would expire at the end of the season, and matt has a salary that goes down each year …
I was big on the iggy trade but...
I am unsure if it is the right move now. If you like it both of the contracts we would have to assume, that is a lot of money that we are going to have to take on for a bunch of years (more than 12 mill a year for 5 years in iggys case). I like Iggy as a player but his defense is really suspect. I don’t want to turn into the Golden State Warriors where we try to shoot the opponent out of the gym.
yeah ... it's a lot of money, really ...
But most of the stats I see from him, like + -, that one here http://www.wagesofwins.com/AllTeamMid0910.html and all that take account of defense as well as offense and he looks pretty good, he is still 25 not injury prone, I would take his contract right now. The problem is that Cuban doesn’t think that way
You really think he's not a good defender?
He’s a franchise player. He put a crappy team in the playoffs several times. His numbers are great. He goes to the basket and is a good passer, he can find the open man. Then Dalembert, he’s a faster, longer, more athletic and much healthier version of Damp. Yeah, his offensive game is near nonexistent, but so is Damp’s.
I’m telling you, if we get embarrased again in the playoffs, Dirk’s gonna opt out.
Yeah.
Not trying to argue but just looking at the numbers, it’s pretty clear (I can’t actually say how much of it is philly versus iggy):
Wow that's a looot of stats
And I’m unable to get a conclusion out of them. I’m going to sleep. See you next game.
Definitely
May have been a bit too many stats. If you go down to the bottom of the page, there is a table that gives you a pretty good sense of how good each player is playing.
The good thing about the Mavericks losing, it will push Cuban into doing something about it (he doesn’t like to lose). I expect to see something happen sooner or later for the Mavericks.
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