Caron Butler and Brendan Haywood Are Mavs
Marc Stein is reporting that the Mavericks and Wizards have completed their trade call with the league office, and the deal will be announced later tonight.
The final deal, as reported by Stein.
| 09/10 | 10/11 | |
| Caron Butler | $9,780,970 | $10,561,960 |
| Brendan Haywood | $6,000,000 | |
| DeShawn Stevenson | $3,883,929 | $4,151,786 (player option) |
| 09/10 | 10/11 | |
| Josh Howard | $10,890,000 | $11,835,000 (team option) |
| Drew Gooden | $4,500,000 | |
| Quinton Ross | $1,033,342 | $1,146,337 (player option) |
| James Singleton | $1,030,189 |
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I can't say they're legit
yet, but no shit it’s an upgrade though.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
I really like about the deal that it also takes away almost no trade options for the summer
Dampier is still an attractive unguaranteed contract, and Haywood could be used in a S&T if needed, and they could add Terry or Butler if it nets them a major major player. Butler is averaging just 67 games in his career and has never played 82 so there is some injury concern, but not really worse than with Josh’s ankle. And as a bonus he has the most experience playing LeBron. This deal has next to no downside.
P.S.: Reportedly Cuban also gets a little money from the Wizards in the deal. And there are rumors he is already working on flipping over Stevenson.
Equal To or Better than LA? No, but...
I don’t think this makes them better than LA right now but I think it makes them the second best team in the West. Now, once you get to the playoffs anything can happen, a player turns an ankle and can’t go, someone gets breaks a foot, etc. So, what this does is puts them in a position to beat the Lakers and that’s all you can ask for.
I LIke This Move
a lot, although it’s sad to see Drew Gooden go. I really grew to like him. Nevertheless, you can never have too many quality big men. Dampier, Haywood and Marion are all solid bigs. Now the Mavs need to pull their heads out of their rear ends and play requisite to their talent level. I’m just glad we didn’t have to give Beaubois.
Brad James
by the new Bradfather on Feb 13, 2010 6:56 PM CST reply actions
Beat The Fakers
I hate those chumps and I would love to see the Mavs take them down!
Brad James
by the new Bradfather on Feb 13, 2010 6:58 PM CST reply actions
Gooden could return to the Mavs
if he accepts a buyout of his contract though he will have to wait 30 days.
I think there would be a buyout...
but the 30 days goes past March 1st, so Gooden couldn’t be used for the playoffs.
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.-1984 George Orwell.
Actually he just has to be waived by March 1st.
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Thanks pookey, to get under the tax
maybe gooden takes the pay cut that he gets w/ a vet. deal with DAL. that could be the final cash to lower the Wiz to under the tax.
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.-1984 George Orwell.
They better hope it doesn't does Dampier
might not make it through the season and playoffs, so having Gooden as a backup to Haywood would be essential.
Everyone's man Hollinger says
that he liked the trade for both teams unless we (and the Wiz) make another one before the deadline. I guess we need a decent back-up PG who could play defense. I like JJ but, along with our beloved aging Kidd, these guys are turnstiles today on the defensive end.
by turnaroundfadeawaydunk on Feb 13, 2010 7:35 PM CST reply actions
Good move by the Mavs.
I wonder if there is any rumor that they will use their TPE to acquire Oberto from the Wiz to complete the deal. (Saves the Wiz more money this season basically.)
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Gotta tell you guys
If we weren’t looking over our shoulder and worrying before, we sure as hall are now in Denver, killer deal, makes me want to puke
Why live life on the edge, when you can jump off?
Well, you guys wouldn't have been too worried
before the break considering how the Mavs struggled and of course that trashing in Denver.
Quietly confident now, but still want to see how they go after the break.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
from a Wizards fan in WDC
hey Mavs fans… Im a big Wizards fan, season ticket holder. you should know that almost everyone in DC absolutely hates this trade.
you are getting Caron Butler, who is a great role model, hard worker, and former all star. He’s had a down season this year, but its been due to the new offense the Wiz have implemented…which really doesn’t play to his strengths. I think Kidd iwll be able to get him the ball in the right spots, and he’ll rever to all star form.
Brendon Haywood is the best kept secret in the NBA. He’s a double-double machine. He blocks shots. He has given Shaq, Dwight Howard, and KG fits here in the Eastern Conference…one of the few Centers who can check those guys one on one. He has the size and length to help you against Gasol and Bynum of the Lakers. You’ll love him.
Sad to hear that man.. but with all the fiasco going there in the Wiz locker room
because of Gil’s antics and the recent slump of both teams, your front office had to make this trade. Just don’t lose Antawn, though…
I’m speaking for myself here and not the entire Dallas Mavs fanbase, but I think Haywood is the most important guy we got in this trade.
by turnaroundfadeawaydunk on Feb 13, 2010 7:58 PM CST up reply actions
haywood
yep, haywood was the best thing the Wizards had going this year. He brought it every single night, grabbing offensive rebounds, blocking shots, and barking out orders on defense (even though he knew we had poor defenders in Arenas and Jamison). He’s got a great personality too. He’ll do a great job for the Mavs, give you the inside presence you need to contend with the Lakers and the Nuggets.
It’s a very, very, very sad day here in Washington losing Brendan Haywood, who came here as a rookie.
Why shouldn't the Wiz not let Jamison go?
The guy is getting old with a huge contract with 2 yrs left. If anything, they should’ve found a way to trade him first as they’re cleaning house anyway.
by inquisitiveman on Feb 13, 2010 8:06 PM CST up reply actions
actually I was just saying that
because I hate to see a Jamison going to the Cavs! haha. To be honest, I think he’s the only vet in there which holds the team together.
by turnaroundfadeawaydunk on Feb 13, 2010 8:11 PM CST up reply actions
i like da trade 4 the wiz bcuz now we have a lil room 2 play with to build a contender now its time 4 jamison 2 go so we can really get sum help in dc……….yeah the mavs stole wit da trade but dem dudes needed a change up we werent winning anyway maybe they can help da mavs get out da first cuz they aint help us
Good Move
Cuban has once again proven why he’s a good owner: he has the ability and willingness to spend money. I agree with the sentiment that this doesn’t propel us into Lakers territory but it certainly gets us closer. 2 things stand out: 1) Haywood gives us some additional versatility. He’s just a TAD more athletic than Dampier and is a better all around player which means we can stick him out there and still play our preferred “small ball” style and run run run much more effectively 2) Can’t agree with Hollinger that Howard and Butler are essentially the same player. They’ve both had down years but Butler is tougher, has a higher ceiling and has a much better chance of returning to his all-star form. GO MAVS!
why he’s a good owner: he has the ability and willingness to spend money.
The Wizards were over the luxury tax on an awful year. They, too, were willing to spend. Paul Allen had those couple of seasons before the Jailblazers period when he accrued all the high-price problematic veterans, Oakland Raiders style, and it fell apart.
It ain’t all checkbooks. Cuban is shrewd.
"It has come to the editor’s attention that the Herald-Leader neglected to cover the civil rights movement. We regret the omission."
w/r/t rebound rate
dampier is slightly better than haywood, but they’re both top 10 in that category. the issue is will carlisle use a traditional lineup or will nowitzki still play a lot of minutes at the five. at the very least, carlisle has the option to stay with a big lineup and match-up with taller frontlines.
butler is a fine all-around player. i think kidd will make him more productive.
"I've hacked into your brain. You're throwing a party and no one's showing up."
I like this trade, you guys have a shot at beating the lakers. And an added bonus is we get another team in the East who sucks now so in one trade life for the lakers got harder and it got easier for us…awesome.
Hah. Until Dirk gets his groove back and the team quits playing sloppy lazy basketball,
then we have a shot. On the other hand, your Cavs team is killing every team they play against as of late.
by turnaroundfadeawaydunk on Feb 13, 2010 8:18 PM CST up reply actions
Yea the lakers aren't the biggest hurdle
your Cavs are
by nicholas.rodriguez on Feb 13, 2010 9:10 PM CST up reply actions
wait.
what? how do you figure sports fan?
Buffalo, that's where it's at baby. - Adam 'Pacman' Jones
by silverstreak3k on Feb 13, 2010 9:21 PM CST up reply actions
apparently you guys are getting Amar'e for Hickson and Z
I don’t know if its a good move for Steve Kerr.
by turnaroundfadeawaydunk on Feb 14, 2010 6:53 AM CST up reply actions
in a strict basketball sense its a terrible move for them but their owner has ordered kerr to get under the luxury tax, in this trade they save millions and get a young guy with potential
by CavsLebronFan on Feb 14, 2010 7:33 AM CST up reply actions
i can't believe we just handed you guys the trade.
all our GM had to do was make some contact with Washington and the three-way trade (NYK, HOU, WAS) would have happened. you guys are going to give us a major ass beating the next time we play yall.
Rockets>>>>>>Jazz
Texans>>>>>>>Titans
Super Mario>>>>>>>Vince Young
Next year?
The Rockets and Mavs are done this year, unless they meet in the playoffs.
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.-1984 George Orwell.
2010-2011 Cap Situation
It looks like Cuban doesn’t mind losing more money next year. Barring anymore trades, it looks like Dallas already has about 68million committed to only 8 players next year.
Dirk, Butler, Kidd, Marion, Terry, Carroll, Stevenson, Roddy. Just to get to the league min of 13 will require signing 5 more players. Even if those are all scrubs and rookies your looking at 78 million. If you want to resign Haywood it’ll probably take at least the mid-level for 5.5 million so it seems like the roster could top 80million next year. With the salary cap going to to around 63million it looks like Dallas will be subsidizing a lot of other teams with luxury tax payments next year.
by PhilippeinBoston on Feb 13, 2010 9:13 PM CST reply actions
I dont think Cuban cares if they can win.
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by texascowpunk on Feb 13, 2010 9:59 PM CST up reply actions
upgrade in every aspect
the 2 obvious is caron is the offensive boost and haywood gives them a real center but I’m intrigued with stevenson, he fell off the planet this year but if he brings the defensive intensity and knocking down open shots like a few years ago that would be huge having a reliable swingman off the bench. great trade, hey we didn’t have to give up roddy either.
Stevenson is a legendarily bad offensive player right now
Washington folks tell me consistently that Stevenson’s shot is broken since his injury. His PER right now is, let me just check…. Yes, it’s the lowest number in the league among anyone who’s played 250 or more minutes. But whaddaya know, the Wizards got back Quinton Ross, whose number is comparably awful. That’s…. really kind’ve bad.
I agree, though, on a winner he’d be able to play his role defensively, and that’s worth having around if you’ve got a spot for it.
"It has come to the editor’s attention that the Herald-Leader neglected to cover the civil rights movement. We regret the omission."
How did Haywood and Gooden get into this deal??
The Wizards seem to have expanded the initial Caron-for-Howard core deal to include Brendan Haywood, a reasonably legitimate starting NBA center who cranks out double doubles, and what they got for widening the scope of the trade was a $3 million salary savings next year on the difference between DeShawn Stevenson and Quinton Ross. Otherwise Haywood and Drew Gooden are both expirings….. They even seem to have sent money Cuban’s way for the privilege.
Ouch. Does $3 million for one season seem to be equivalent to the value of an NBA center?
"It has come to the editor’s attention that the Herald-Leader neglected to cover the civil rights movement. We regret the omission."
Dallas said no deal if Haywod wasn't included.
Dallas may have known the Wiz had no other trade partners, so the Wiz got desperate and said yes.
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.-1984 George Orwell.
"Desperate" was the only word necessary
It’s painful. That one word alone would serve to characterize the Wizards front office right now.
You’d think they would have needed Haywood to sweeten whatever deal got Jamison’s contract out the door, but now they’ve still got those couple of years in hand too. Youch.
"It has come to the editor’s attention that the Herald-Leader neglected to cover the civil rights movement. We regret the omission."
They want to keep Jamison
they were saying they won’t trade him
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.-1984 George Orwell.
Somehow that fits your sig line....
"It has come to the editor’s attention that the Herald-Leader neglected to cover the civil rights movement. We regret the omission."
Jamison's also 34,
and has two more years after this one at $13.3 million and $15 million. If they’re seriously trying to rebuild, they ship him. Before this deadline, they ship him.
"It has come to the editor’s attention that the Herald-Leader neglected to cover the civil rights movement. We regret the omission."
I think Mike Miller and Jamison for Ray Allen and a 2010 1st round pick
could be something the Wiz like.
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.-1984 George Orwell.
That would be Roddy B.
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by Blair Rocket on Feb 14, 2010 11:23 AM CST up reply actions
I like Howard for Butler
But I didn’t think it was physically possible for the Mavs to get less athletic at center.
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I'm very excited about this trade
This may save the Mavs’ season (if the Mavs were headed for an uber-collapse in the first place).
Gotta say I enjoyed having Drew Gooden on the team. I can do without Howard, though. That guy’s ankle is ruining his career.
It is a good day to be a Mavs fan I think!
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As a Wizard's fan, let me say
you are going to love Haywood. I’m excited to see him play for an actual team, he’ll probably start to get the credit he deserves for his D. He is a great communicator on D, getting people in the right spots, and he plays great one-on-one defense.

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