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Caron Butler, the Anti-Josh Howard?

You might have heard, the Mavericks made a small midseason deal involving Josh Howard, Drew Gooden, Quinton Ross, James 'Fancy pants' Singleton, a box of crackerjacks and a used handkerchief for Caron Butler, Brendan Haywood, Deshawn Stevenson and a bag full of Abe's.

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"All fucking day."




Cpt. Hollinger called the move at that time "lateral".

 

So how much better does that lofty sum make Dallas? Based on PER, it doesn’t move the needle much. Our Trade Machine analysis is that the swap improves Dallas by only one win for the remainder of the season, largely because this season the difference in performance between Butler and Howard is much smaller than generally perceived. In fact, statistically, there’s been virtually no difference between the two players over the past four seasons, including this one, in which Butler’s numbers have been down just as sharply as Howard’s.

Now, with the Regular Season over and done, let's review both Players.

Stats:

Courtesy of Hoopdata.com

 

Scoring Stats

Player NameYrTmPosGPMinFG%3P%FT%eFG%TS%%AstBlkd%BlkdAnd1And1%FTRPTS
Josh Howard 2010 DAL SF 31 26.6 40.1 26.7 79.0 43.0 49.2 65.7 0.39 3.5 0.23 2.0 0.35 12.5
Josh Howard 2010 WAS SF 4 22.8 43.5 27.3 75.0 46.7 52.9 60.0 0.25 2.2 0.50 4.3 0.43 14.5
Caron Butler 2010 WAS SF 47 39.3 42.0 26.3 87.7 43.8 50.4 48.5 0.89 6.1 0.26 1.7 0.30 16.9
Caron Butler 2010 DAL SF 27 34.4 44.0 34.0 76.0 46.4 50.9 54.1 0.96 7.3 0.15 1.1 0.29 15.2

 

Josh a little better after the trade, Caron a little worse. Ho-hum. Hideous 3P%, btw. At least Caron is slowly improving at that. Big differences getting blocked and earning freethrows, though. Josh also wins the And1's.

 

Shot Location

Both Guys love the long Jumper. Like every SF in the League [that has the strong vision of possessing a jumpshot] does. It's generally the least worth shot, and the easiest to come by. The Mavs are the best team at converting a lot of those. Largely because of that German dude and the guy from Seattle. But they ain't [no] SF's [not].

Although the overall PER and statistical production of Butler and Howard is quite similar, it's totally different manufactured.

Shot Locations
at Rim
<10 Feet 10-15 Feet 16-23 Feet Threes
Player NameYrTmPosGPMinMAFG%%AsMAFG%%AsMAFG%%AsMAFG%%AsMAeFG%

%AS

Josh 2010 DAL SF 31 26.6 1.5 2.0 73.0 60.9 0.5 1.2 47.2 47.1 0.5 1.5 29.2 35.7 1.3 3.9 33.0 72.5 0.6 2.4 40.1 100
Josh 2010 WAS SF 4 22.8 0.5 2.5 20.0 0.0 1.5 1.8 85.7 33.3 0.5 1.3 40.0 50.0 1.8 3.3 54.0 85.7 0.8 2.8 41.0 100
Caron 2010 WAS SF 47 39.3 1.8 3.4 53.4 46.5 0.6 1.6 39.2 20.7 0.3 0.9 32.5 38.5 3.0 6.9 43.0 54.0 0.5 2.0 39.5 60
Caron 2010 DAL SF 27 34.4 1.7 3.7 45.0 46.7 0.4 0.8 52.4 27.3 0.2 0.9 25.0 16.7 2.9 6.0 48.0 60.3 0.6 1.9 51.0 76

 

Here's the interesting thing: Josh Howard was actually very good when shooting at the rim(73% is outstanding) and <10 Feet . He was absolutely putrid by attempting anything further out. The Kicker is the Amount of shots. 2 Layups/Dunks/Tipins and 1.2 Floaters etc attempted versus a combined 7.8 longrange hoists at low percentages. And ALL of his threes were assisted, 72.5% of his 16-23footers and 60.9% of his Rimshots [zing]. The one area where he primarily created for himself? He shot under 30%.

Stepback jumpers are not for everyone, folks.

Caron was below average at the Rim in his last season in Washington, and that got way worse in Dallas, especially early on. He gets blocked more often than he should(7.3%) and doesn't take more FT's than Josh did (3.9 vs 3.8) as a Mav. However, he is still attacking the Rim more frequently (3.7) than Howard ever did (3.5 Attempts). Decline yes, Unaggressive no. His Numbers until 15 ft are pretty similar to Josh's: Close good, short jumper poo'd. Even more poo'drid than Josh (25%). Thankfully, it's less than one trial error per game.

The long jumper, Mr. Easy Road 16-23, is actually pretty good for him. 48% on 6 Attempts. At February, he even shot 55% on 8. While those numbers&attempts are nearly leagueleading, they are still not efficient enough. But hey, it's a jumpshooting team. The Best (long)jumpshooting team. So it helps when you don't totally suck at it. The three has come along slooooooowly for Caron game by game. Being open every once in a while is a nice thing. Said the Mexican Border.

The latest trend is also encouraging. [Yes you need to click all the links. Thanks for asking.]

 

 

Defense/Rebounding Stats

Player NameYrTmPosGPMinORebDRebTRebORRDRRTRRSTLBLKCHGDEF

PF

Josh Howard 2010 DAL SF 31 26.6 0.8 2.8 3.6 3.7 11.8 7.8 0.74 0.29 0.19 1.23 2.5
Josh Howard 2010 WAS SF 4 22.8 1.0 2.3 3.3 5.0 11.6 8.2 0.75 0.50 0.50 1.75 3.3
Caron Butler 2010 WAS SF 47 39.3 1.4 5.3 6.7 4.2 15.7 9.8 1.45 0.32 0.00 1.77 2.7
Caron Butler 2010 DAL SF 27 34.4 1.3 4.0 5.4 4.5 13.3 8.9 1.78 0.33 0.04 2.15 2.5

 

Theoretically, Josh Howard is the better defender. That's what got him the job in Dallas. What made him good, Allstar level. But if you don't play hard, potential is useless. With the arrival of Marion, Josh was obsolete on that end, too. Staying out of Health..perfect.

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Feel my pain.


 


Advanced Stats
Player NameYrTmPosGPMinUSGTS%%AstARTORORRDRRTRREFFWSAWSPERAPER
Josh Howard 2010 DAL SF 31 26.6 24.39 49.2 65.7 9.14 8.93 3.7 11.8 7.8 9.77 2.13 2.04 12.06 12.04
Josh Howard 2010 WAS SF 4 22.8 28.78 52.9 60.0 6.47 4.85 5.0 11.6 8.2 11.50 2.88 3.14 19.19 19.47
Caron Butler 2010 WAS SF 47 39.3 22.05 50.4 48.5 10.63 11.32 4.2 15.7 9.8 16.09 5.56 4.09 13.36 13.27
Caron Butler 2010 DAL SF 27 34.4 22.25 50.9 54.1 9.82 9.42 4.5 13.3 8.9 14.41 5.28 4.41 14.23 14.31

 

Since its's all about the numbers, 14>12. oO

 

Clutch

Of 82games.com

 

Josh Howard Clutch Statistics

(4th quarter or overtime, less than 5 minutes left,
neither team ahead by more than 5 points)

 

Floor Time statistics

Min Net Pts Off Def Net48 W L Win%
  18% +37  127.4   76.2 51.3 9 4 69.2%
These stats represent how the team performed in clutch situations while the player was on the floor.
The Net48 number shows the average +/- net points over a full game.

Scoring

By FG. FGA FG% eFG% Ast'd Blk'd FTM Pts
48 Min 6.9  15.2  .455  .545   100%  0%  2.8  19.4 

Shooting Details

Shot selection
Shot Att. eFG% Ast'd Blk'd Pts
Jump 82%  .556   100%  0%  0.7 
Close 18%  .500   100%  0%  0.1 
Dunk 0%  .000   0%  0%  0.0 
Tips 0%  .000   0%  0%  0.0 
Inside 18%  .500   100%  0%  0.1 
Shot clock usage
Secs. Att. eFG% Ast'd Blk'd Pts
0-10 55%  .833   100%  0%  0.7 
11-15 27%  .000   0%  0%  0.0 
16-20 18%  .500   100%  0%  0.1 
21+ 0%  .000   0%  0%  0.0 
Crunch 27%  .333   50%  0%  0.1 

 

Free Throw Shooting and Foul Drawing

FTM FTA FT% FTA48 PTS48 FGA Fouled DrawF
2 2 100.0 2.8 2.8 11 0 0.0%
FGA includes the number of shooting fouls drawn.

 

Passing Stats

3-Pt
Assists
Jump
Assists
Close
Assists
Dunk
Assists
Total
Assists
Passing
T/O's
Assist/
Bad Pass
Passing
Rating
AST48
1 0 1 0 2 0 2.0 1.4 2.8

 

Rebounding

Off
Rebounds
Off. Reb
Chances
Off. Reb
Pct
Team Off
Reb%
Def
Rebounds
Def. Reb
Chances
Def. Reb
Pct
Team Def
Reb%
Player
Rating
Team FT
Rating
2 36 5.6% 13.9% 4 41 9.8% 75.6% 15.3 89.5

 

Shot Blocking

Jump
Blocks
Close
Blocks
Dunk
Blocks
Jump
Pct
Close
Pct
Dunk
Pct
All
Blocks
BLK48 Block
Pct
Shoot
Fouls
Blocks/
Foul
Block
Rating
1 0 0 2% 0% 0% 1 1.4 1.8% 0 1.00 3.6

 

Turnovers and Ball Handling

Offensive
Fouls
Bad
Passes
Ball Handling
Turnovers
Other
Turnovers
'Hands'
Rating
0 1 1 0 7.6


Caron Butler Clutch Statistics

(4th quarter or overtime, less than 5 minutes left,
neither team ahead by more than 5 points)

 

Floor Time statistics

Min Net Pts Off Def Net48 W L Win%
  14% +26  115.1   68.4 46.8 8 2 80.0%
These stats represent how the team performed in clutch situations while the player was on the floor.
The Net48 number shows the average +/- net points over a full game.

Scoring

By FG. FGA FG% eFG% Ast'd Blk'd FTM Pts
48 Min 10.8  19.8  .545  .545   17%  0%  9.0  30.6 

Shooting Details

Shot selection
Shot Att. eFG% Ast'd Blk'd Pts
Jump 91%  .500   20%  0%  1.0 
Close 9%  1.000   0%  0%  0.2 
Dunk 0%  .000   0%  0%  0.0 
Tips 0%  .000   0%  0%  0.0 
Inside 9%  1.000   0%  0%  0.2 
Shot clock usage
Secs. Att. eFG% Ast'd Blk'd Pts
0-10 27%  .333   0%  0%  0.2 
11-15 0%  .000   0%  0%  0.0 
16-20 36%  .500   0%  0%  0.4 
21+ 36%  .750   33%  0%  0.6 
Crunch 73%  .625   20%  0%  1.0 

 

Free Throw Shooting and Foul Drawing

FTM FTA FT% FTA48 PTS48 FGA Fouled DrawF
5 6 83.3 10.8 9.0 12 1 8.3%
FGA includes the number of shooting fouls drawn.

 

Passing Stats

3-Pt
Assists
Jump
Assists
Close
Assists
Dunk
Assists
Total
Assists
Passing
T/O's
Assist/
Bad Pass
Passing
Rating
AST48
2 0 1 0 3 0 3.0 3.6 5.4

 

Rebounding

Off
Rebounds
Off. Reb
Chances
Off. Reb
Pct
Team Off
Reb%
Def
Rebounds
Def. Reb
Chances
Def. Reb
Pct
Team Def
Reb%
Player
Rating
Team FT
Rating
2 24 8.3% 29.2% 4 26 15.4% 69.2% 23.7 98.4

 

Shot Blocking

Jump
Blocks
Close
Blocks
Dunk
Blocks
Jump
Pct
Close
Pct
Dunk
Pct
All
Blocks
BLK48 Block
Pct
Shoot
Fouls
Blocks/
Foul
Block
Rating
0 0 0 0% 0% 0% 0 0.0 0.0% 3 0.00 0.0

 

Turnovers and Ball Handling

Offensive
Fouls
Bad
Passes
Ball Handling
Turnovers
Other
Turnovers
'Hands'
Rating
0 1 0 0 11.4

 

If you're still reading here, you can see a clutching man knight.

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Shot Selection

It was (almost) always the same with Josh. 1st quarter hero hunter of the forlorn shot. That's the Damp mindset, Ladies and Gentleman. If you're not involed early, you don't care about the game. 4th quarter inbounder. Hard time flourishing as second or third fiddle. And that's that.

Caron had years where he was the third, second or first option in Washington. Depending on who was just injured and if Caron decided to go for hero mode himself. In Dallas, he is the third, second or first option. Depending on what Kidd wants or if Carlisle demands him to be aggressive.

Both are nice black holes [on offense, dear offended ptr'r]. Josh had 43 Turnovers to 44 Assists while playing for Dallas. Caron had 47 TO's and 49 Assists. That's Ballhoggery. Not quite Drew Gooden-like 'My precious little spalding..' Ballhoggery, though.

To quote Simmons:

In other words, when he gets the ball, everything stops. Hmmmmm … I have the ball … clear out for me … OK … hmmmmm … what move should I try?… maybe I'll dribble a few times …

 

Caron Butler has a nice dunk face.

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Don'tcha?

That also means he does actually dunk. 32 times this year, split between WAS and DAL. Haywood has 121, Marion 61, Dirk 24, Roddy 13. For comparison's sake, Richard Jefferson has 65 [Surprise], Tim Duncan 33, Manu 16, Hill 12.

 

Josh on the other hand? After Kidd's arrival in 2008, in the very first game, on the very first play, he lobbed the ball to the rim for Howard to slam it home. Howard catched it, but couldn't rise up and had to lay it in. Jason Kidd is always best in the open court with some athletes around him.

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Huh? What are you trying to say?

On top of your head, how many dunks had Josh Howard this year? Think about it. Answer at the End.

Archive Photo:

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With a little help...

 

 

In Life

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0.2 Cent for Jamison's thoughts.

 

Caron Butler was a bad guy. No father.  A criminal. A certified drug dealer at age 11 . He went to court 15 times. He did time. A real Thug, not a fugazi. No really, go read for yourself.

Butler made his first drug deal at age 11, pocketing $38. He would hide his gold watch and chains when he got home, and also had a newspaper route that served as a cover. Butler received newspapers at 3:30 each morning, delivered them and then hit the corner of 18th and Howe to sell crack before the sun rose.

"You can take a kid to school all day; he's in school for eight hours, he [doesn't] see the immediate impact," Butler said. "You can stay out [on the corner] for four, five hours and make $1,500."

 

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200 $ for Josh's Cap.


Josh Howard was a good guy. No father either. Mom and Grandma took care, Josh went to Wake, got drafted, played for the Mavs. Life was good in Dallas, Darrell, Devin and Quis were good friends. Ok, he made some mistakes here and there, but shit happens, right? Then them friends got traded away. D'oh! [no pun] Suddenly, the media painted bad pictures of him and he didn't know why. Just because he said almost everybody in the NBA smokes Marijuana? Joakim Noah's Dad doesn't understand the big fuzz about that either. Howard just  wanted to have fun and enjoy a good party. On his Birthday. Nothing wrong with that, eh? 'xcept it was in the Playoffs against New Orleans. Uh Oh.

Josh Howard had a worse series off the court than on it, and that's hard to do when you shoot 29 percent while your team gets booted in five games.

His picked the poorest possible time to make radio reefer confessions, making his fondness for marijuana a national story the afternoon of Game 3. And J(o)-Ho didn't learn by causing that silly distraction. He handed out flyers for his birthday party in the locker room after Game 4, a crushing loss that all but ended the Mavs' season.

Avery Johnson, who had a reasonable no-partying-during-the-playoffs rule, was livid when he learned about Howard and a few teammates living it up on the town. That's why he canceled what would have been the last practice during his Dallas tenure.

"That's new news to me," Howard said this afternoon.

J(o)-Ho mentioned that he'd already apologized for his radio appearance, but he didn't sound like a guy who regretted his actions. "You only live once," said Howard, who is still the Mavs' best chip (other than untouchable Dirk) on the trade market.

He also stressed that he's not a "bad person." And he's right. But he was a terrible teammate during this series.

And he was awful on the court, too, but he seems to think his horrible shooting was just bad luck.

"I couldn't make the shots that I've been making," Howard said, giggling at a question about how the Hornets defended him. "They went up and just hit the side of the rim or went in and out. You can't control what the ball do. Crazy, man. Y'all hilarious."

A little drag race seems to be a nice relief of all those media folks. Right? And then there was that nice flag football game. Hell, can't a good guy make an off-color joke every now and then? Oh boy... And then he became father...twice in one week...congratulations, i guess.

As for his life on the court, well, after all that turmoil, Josh had a nice little Chat with his Coach, Boss, newly hired Assistant Coach Darrel Armstrong and perhaps his Agent, apologized publically, kept his mouth shut and played a season through injuries, helped beat the Spurs walking on eggshell ankles, couldn't keep up in the 2nd round and had subsequentially 'successful' surgery on wrist and ankle in May 2009. Only he missed Training Camp and the start of the 2010 season, was asked to play the 2 spot due to Marion's arrival, couldn't stay healthy when he came back early for three games, gave way to Roddy at the two alongside Kidd [See, a positive can come from every....nevermind], returned in December and slowly drained it through the days. That Playing-at-Shooting-Guard-Thing also worked out. NOT. [Hint: Same thing with Caron]

Speaking of the Butler....

He spent the first two months of an 18-month sentence at the Racine Correctional Institution, an adult facility, before being transferred to the Ethan Allen School for Boys in Wales, Wis., a razor-wire-enclosed campus for youngsters convicted of murder, burglary and selling drugs.

Within his first month at Ethan Allen, Butler got into an altercation with a rival gang member from back home. Punished with 15 days in solitary confinement, he was forced to spend 23 hours a day in a 10-by-12, yellow brick cell, with a steel bed and a two-inch-thick mattress. His food was slid in through a small opening and he was granted an hour outside to clean himself.

Butler decided that he'd never be in that position again. He read Bible verses his grandmother, Margaret Butler, had sent him. Butler said he was drawn mostly to 1 Corinthians 13:11, which reads, "When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things."

One small window, sandwiched between steel bars, lit his room. Butler could peer out and see a basketball court.

"God puts stuff in front of you for a reason," he said. "That was my ticket out."

On the day he was released from Ethan Allen in August 1996, Butler, then 16, promised his mother that he'd never do anything to hurt her again. He also sought out his daughter, Camary, born less than a month after he was incarcerated. For Butler, who barely knows his father, it was another way to make amends.

"One of the main things I wanted to do was be the best father I could be because I didn't have a father," he said. "I know that void hurt me."

 

Howard and Butler swapped places in February. The Mavs [sic!] later launched/leaked a rumor that he was partying the night before a game. I call Hedonism. Howard joked after his first game as a Wizard ' Oh yeah, and [i wanted to] stick it to the Mavs, too.' Good guy.  Butler had to stop chewing straws on the court because the NBA ruled it dangerous after 8 years of practical scientific Field-Tests perfomed by Caron. Butler later wrote a letter to the Wizard fans.

When you get traded, you don't get time to say goodbye. More important, you don't get the opportunity to say, "Thank you."

Thank you, to some of the best fans in the world. Representing you and representing this city has been an honor I will always cherish.

During my 4 1/2 years as a Wizard, I learned many valuable lessons, especially how to give back to the community. The most rewarding part of my time in Washington was meeting the incredible people of this city, and I will miss you all. Thank you to the countless individuals who helped me with the annual Coats for Kids, the Bike Brigade and my basketball camp. The memories are many and will never be replaced.

When I came to Washington, I dreamed of winning a championship. I thought I would play the rest of my career in this city, retire a Wizard and one day see my number hanging from the rafters at Verizon Center. I have learned that in basketball, as in life, nothing is guaranteed.

Thank you for the memories. My family and I will treasure them forever. Washington will always hold a special place in my heart.

 

Conclusion

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Josh Howard is a good man. child. guy.

 

 

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Caron Butler is a bad child  guy. man.

 

Closing

And lastly, to the rest of Honest John's Analysis...

For the Mavs, the success of the trade might come down to the names in agate type, not the headliners. That is, Haywood and Gooden may be fairly similar in terms of PER, but look at plus-minus stats and a very different picture emerges. According to Basketballvalue.com, Dallas gives up 11.25 points per 100 possessions more with Gooden on the court, one of the worst marks in basketball. Much of that is a result of his role in the rotation — he’s either playing as an undersized center or replacing Dallas’ best player, Dirk Nowitzki — and it indicates that he’s hardly a great fit on the Mavs roster.

And most importantly, is the marginal improvement offered by a Gooden-for-Haywood upgrade really enough for a Mavs team that had outscored opponents by only 1.7 points per game on the season and is projected to finish with 49 wins and a No. 5 seed in the West?

 

On the other hand, Haywood’s plus-numbers over the last half-decade have been spectacular. This year, for instance, Washington is 8.46 points per 100 possessions better with him on the court. The one cautionary flag here is that since he was the only Wizard who could defend to save his life, his impact was probably overstated. At the same time, he’s certainly a major defensive upgrade over Gooden, particularly against the types of big men that Dallas will likely have to face to get through the Western Conference playoff gauntlet.

That said, the deal overall still leaves me with more questions than answer. How is Butler going to defend opposing shooting guards when he can’t even guard small forwards? How will the Mavs juggle minutes up front between Haywood and Erick Dampier, especially when they’re likely to play extended stretches without a traditional center and Nowitzki playing the 5?

 

Well well... now, please, i understand the urge to call a hollow man a trollow man, but let's acknowledge balding John Maynard: ' That's right, 49 wins is what their pythagorean win total is. Only they didn't follow you on twitter and won 6 more anyway. '

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C'mon Johnny, that was funny!


 

Ps: Answer = TwoOne for Dallas and one for Washington.

PPs: There are 17 factual errors and 7 blatant lies hidden in this Article. Can you find them?

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