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2010 contracts and the year of DAMP: his only usefulness



Many Mavs fans, disappointed by the first-round loss to San Antonio, have to look at 2010 as the year to really reload. No more Buck Shots, Stack of Chips, the real Chip is out to use: the DUST (Dampier ultimate sign and trade). Many prospects are being savored by the Mavs (including Wade), I propose that this chip be used in a different manner. Before I describe the manner, we need to look at the contracts (and age) of the Mavs to see that reloading with vets may need to stop. All of the following salary info provided by Shamsports.

Jason Kidd: Great assister, most likely the best in the decade. Kidd holds second overall assists for the NBA, and I see his jersey retired if he helps the Mavs win a title. His production may decrease, however, so a new, pass-first PG is needed(not Roddy B or Barea). Doubt he would be moved in the next  year, may be used as a EC (Expiring Contract) on his last year if he isn't productive (Sorry LJ!). Has 2 more years @ 8.5 million.

Jason Terry: a shooter on the wrong side of thirty,is proving that age can catch up to some Mavs players. He should be a good mentor to Roddy B, teaching him how to finish slashing at the hoop and making 3's with uncanny accuracy. His contract is becoming more toxic, however: with $9.873 Million due to him next year and $10.658 Million in 2011-12.

Shawn Marion:  With the Toronto trade this summer, he now has a $35 Million contract for 5 years. While this trade may have looked great in the summer, it really is looking like a bad mistake on the Mavs part, seeing that Marion is on the books until 2013-14 @ the cost of $9 million.

Eduardo Najera: The man the Mavs got in exchange for Kris Humphries and Shawne Williams, is useful as a defensive presence . Man can dunk if alone as well. Trade is actually pretty good for the Mavs, since his contract is similar to Damp's but with a little money guarenteed ($500K for last 2 years). Could be useful when Damp is bundled.

Matt Carroll: This team's victory cigar, usually sits on the bench waving towels or passing Gatorade. Often doesn't play, but with the Mavs needing 12 players to suit up, MC13 got that last spot. MC has 3 years left @ 11.7 Million.

Juan Jose Barea: The unwanted short dude somehow having a career. Has a cheap contract, but unrealiable at times. If the Mavs don't bring Nick Calathes (which I hope the Mavs do) Barea is staying another year.

Dirk Nowitzki: A man surely disappointed how the playoffs went, has a ETO (early termination option) for next year. Dirk is the heart and soul to the Mavs team, and if Dirk does need, the DUST chip turns to a chance for a sidekick for Dirk to a necessity to stay alive in the WC.

Rodrigue Beaubois: the first good Mavs pick since Josh Howard (03). Has huge potential, needs to learn from Terry the art of shooting and D from J Kidd. If he is able to imitate those factors, he will shine for the Mavs in a few years. On rookie scalr contract, not a burden at all.

New Guys from WAS: Caron Butler, Brendan Haywood, and Deshawn Stevenson.

Butler: a good, not great, option the Mavs got at SG. Was able to become a scoring help, but is just a better version of Barea: not producing results constantly,and being a defensive liability at D. Has a contract with 1 year and $10.561 Million, culd be traded for picks and a trade exception if the Mavs feel confident about putting Marion as the SG (HELL NO!).

Haywood: a real center the Mavs coveted, deserves to be playing starter minutes (30+). Needs to be resigned, but not to a Marion-esque contract, which can become a toxic asset in the future.

Stevenson: the reason we got Haywood (salary dump). Is just a EC to have around. If he improves his shot or D, he may earn a min. contract  after 2010-11.

2010 offseason: what I hope the Mavs do: get young. How you ask? By targeting teams who want more cap space (MIA, MIN) this summer. These teams can help the Mavs with age while the Mavs give them more cap relief. I know 99% of Mavs fans want to see the DUST chip used on a old superstar, but what happens if he isn't sucessful with the Mavs, like Marion? A younger team, however can be used to gain talent cheaply and give the Mavs a quick retool on the fly without watching painful blowouts. Picks could also be aquired, since the Mavs only have a second round pick (via OKC In the Roddy B trade) @ #50. The second rounder, i hope should be used on Da'sean Butler, the WVU senoir who lost his ACL. ACL's aren't needed by players (Blair is an example). Butler could spend the 2010 season recovering, playing in the Euro league for a year, and then be signed. He was slated for a first round pick, and could be a steal if a team is willing to wait and if Butler recovers. Who knows what us Mavs fans will see: but this will be one of the most exciting FA's to occur in the NBA.

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What should the Damp chip be used for, in your opinion?
Recieve a sign and trade star
109 votes
Use Damp to salary dump players+ cash(MC13)
16 votes
Use Damp to recieve salary dump players
9 votes
Waive him! (Do nothing)
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waiving damp

accomplishes nothing, because the Mavs won’t be under the cap either way.

Damp’s real value, in my estimation, is to a team that fears it will lose a max contract star and wants to at least get something in return(this something being $13 mil off the books and picks…and maybe Butler).

I agree with most of your assessment. Butler is a nice player, maybe I could see him getting close to the form he was at with the Wizards a few years ago, but my feeling is that he’s not the sidekick Dirk will need to win a title. Ideally, the DUST chip is the bait needed to bring whoever that is here. Getting Wade is probably a longshot, so I won’t get my hopes up too much for that. Unfortunately, it seems like the strength of the free agent class is the one position Dallas is set at, power forward, with Bosh, Amare and Boozer. The only other all star caliber off guard I’m seeing in this free agent class is Joe Johnson, who I’m really not that crazy about. The rest is a lot of old, broken former stars, like your Redds, Iversons and McGradys.

I detailed my thoughts on next year’s team a little bit in another thread, but to reiterate, I think the offseason priorities should start with keeping Dirk and Haywood here. I’m pretty happy with that frontline, assuming Haywood gets the minutes he deserves(i.e more of them). Kidd and Marion are two similar profile guys: glue players who are past their primes but capable of contributing in areas other than scoring and who possess value I don’t think can be immediately discerned from a boxscore.

Beaubois is perhaps the most valuable guy outside of Dirk right now because on such an old team he’s probably the only player on the active roster with upside. My hope is that he will by the end of next season have transitioned into the role of 6th man and will get 25-30 minutes a night.

The rest of the roster is kind of a question mark. I could probably live with Butler staying around but an upgrade at that offguard spot would be really nice. Terry is a guy that might end up staying because of his awful contract but at this point I’d say try to unload him if you can. Najera, Stevenson and Carroll are likely stuck here. Barea has a team option for next year and if my hair is to remain un-pulled out, the Mavs will not exercise that option.

Calathes is someone I actually forgot about. The Hollinger draftrater was pretty high on him going into the draft, I was intrigued. I know he didn’t play too much in Greece this past season, but if he’s ready I’d really like to see him come stateside. From what I remember of him, he could be a nice compliment to Beaubois as a combo guard with passing skills for a 2.

by Alan Smithee on May 2, 2010 2:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Like The Cavs Jamison trade, the Butler trade really frustrated me

The Cavaliers could have had Bosh, Boozer, Stoudemire, or David Lee, but they chose to trade and take the aging Jamison.
The Mavs could have had Wade or Joe Johnson, yet they take Butler who is very streaky and stuck with them for another year.

"Who Wants some pudding pops?, delicious and nutritious!

by MJ5 on May 2, 2010 3:09 PM CDT reply actions  

What are you talking?

How exactly could we have Wade or Johnson at the deadline?

Because this is Arizona.

by Blair Rocket on May 2, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Both teams could have become dynastes

"Who Wants some pudding pops?, delicious and nutritious!

by MJ5 on May 2, 2010 3:19 PM CDT reply actions  

wanna know something

with the Damp chip and a few other small pieces, we can still get a Bosh or Wade and have Butler and Haywood

by nicholas.rodriguez on May 2, 2010 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

preferably

I would probably say that I would want us to get Wade from what he would bring to the team, even though I have a grudge against him (and the refs) if he got the Mavs a ring all would be forgiven

by nicholas.rodriguez on May 2, 2010 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

hahaha thanks for the shoutout Tom

very nice assessment. front-page worthy

by LJRotter on May 2, 2010 8:48 PM CDT reply actions  

thanks LJ.

banned those trolls yet?

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.-1984 George Orwell.

by tomkanti on May 2, 2010 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

it was just one...

he kept making new profiles. I seriously banned 4 of them I think.

by LJRotter on May 2, 2010 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is it really worth it

to use the DUST chip to take on a bad contract along with a lottery pick (or two)? Obviously you probably don’t get anyone elite, but I’m not sure that’s the most viable direction – since so rookies aren’t exactly the safest commodities. If you’re getting Evan Turner, well, hell yeah, but for someone like DeMarcus Cousins, Wes Johnson or Al-Farouq Aminu, or down to an Xavier Henry? Eh…

And not to be condescending, but I really don’t trust torn ACLs. Seems like it makes the player even more susceptible to knee injuries in the future, and you don’t want someone’s knees to go downhill (see Chris Webber, Penny Hardaway and to some extent, Kevin Garnett. Though the first two had microfracture…)

Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.

by jonthefon on May 3, 2010 4:38 AM CDT reply actions  

if its not that bad of a deal (MC pay)

yes, taking the picks + bad player would be alright with me. Of course, Stevenson will have to be dumped so the Mavs wouldn’t have to pay additional luxury tax, and the other team can’t complain, since waiving Damp won’t cost them a cent.

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.-1984 George Orwell.

by tomkanti on May 3, 2010 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nice assessment

Only Butler is more of a SF than a SG.
And you forgot Tim Thomas, who was absent the second half of the season. (One year min deal, so no biggie)

As long as Dirk plays for the Mavs, there will be no rebuild, so dumping Damp for anything less than impact players is probably out of the equation.

The problem with getting young is that it takes time to get those players developed. Time that Dirk doesn’t really have much of.

You can draft underrated potential (and lets be real, Beaubois did nothing new in the NBA that he didn’t already do in Europe) at the range the Mavs are picking, but unless you really, really stink, the home runs are out of reach.

Essentially, you have to
-take a bad salary back with an impact player
Or
-throw in players the other team wants (that would be Roddy only, unless somebody else loves JJ as much as Carlisle)
Or
-have Photos of their Team Owner’s wife having Sex with a monkey to convince them to a straight up Damp-for-Star

in trading the DUST-Chip.

"Mais put… Il est fou ce gars!"

by DOH on May 3, 2010 8:22 AM CDT reply actions  

Tim Thomas really didn't do much

except for the win against the Cavs at DAL. I hope DAL gets rookie scale contracts, however, not rookies (as well as dumping MC, if possible). People who have some experience in the NBA, and still bve able to adapt the way the Mavs play. I don’t want to see “impact player(s)” come, because we can see our last impact player, Marion, work badly. If the Mavs get someone like Marion again, would we be complaining about that?

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.-1984 George Orwell.

by tomkanti on May 3, 2010 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but Tim wasn’t that bad. The Cavs win (w/o Dirk) alone nearly paid for his salary.

Rookie contracts are the single biggest bargain in the NBA. People don’t trade that kind of thing if the player is worth something. (Interested in Beasley? Miami shops him for cap space)

Calathes is still in Greece, i’d like to see him in Summer Camp/ Turkey. What happend to Nivins(Bass mold player)?

Jason Kidd needs athletes to throw alley-oops to. Other than Beaubois and Marion, we don’t have anybody capable of catching.

Want to overpay for some athletes like Warrick or (Tyrus)Thomas?

MC is the price the Mavs have to pay for dumping Diop. Enjoy him. Buckets leaves you no choice.

Can you name some players you’d like to see here?

"Mais put… Il est fou ce gars!"

by DOH on May 3, 2010 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Under what situation?

Mavs gain impact player via S&T: Lebron or Rudy Gay
Cheap contracts: Ronnie Brewer, Anthony Morrow, Randy Foye, Spencer Hawes.

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.-1984 George Orwell.

by tomkanti on May 3, 2010 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gay

Maybe I’m alone on this one, but since presumedly it would take Damp and Butler to get Gay, I’d say the Mavs would be better just keeping Butler if Gay is the best feasible return(this assumes LeBron and Wade are not feasible).

Gay is young, yes, and athletic, very much yes, however…he’s been pretty much the exact same player the last three years, and that player isn’t all that great. When his jumpshot is falling he looks like a stud, but he’s not a high percentage player. He takes more 3’s and long 2’s than he should, despite his obvious skill at finishing at the rim. His mediocre rebound rate belies his length and leaping ability. He rarely passes and scores most of his points off isolations. Oh, and there’s a lot of evidence to suggest he’s a flat out bad defender.

Some of these things might be correctable in the right system with the right guys around him, but since the Mavs will likely have to pay him big bucks and give him a longterm deal, I think it’s a bad gamble.

I’m not super crazy about Joe Johnson, but in terms of second-tier perimeter guys(i.e the non-LeBrons/Wades), he looks like the best fit of the bunch.

by Alan Smithee on May 4, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Useless

Gay’s not worth trading for unless I can get him for Dampier and a second round draft pick, which I doubt. I see him having as much impact as Butler has, probably just a bit more. Only willing to give up for Lebron and D-Wade, actual impact players that won’t hide.

I like Morrow, but won’t really help much. We need that driving 2, if LBJ was gotten for a realistic price of Dampier, Butler, First Round picks(s), money, we would have to be considered championship favorites (actual ones, not a 50 win team in the playoffs). You’d have LBJ attacking the rim, with Dirk freeing up room for him, could throw in Roddy/Butler, plus Kidd at the point, and you have a solid balanced line-up.

by Why on May 20, 2010 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lebron would be home run – bodog says 1/25.
Gay is restricted fa, iirc…either mem matches or somebody with capspace panics after failing to secure one of the top dogs and massively overpays (13-16/yr)..and i’m not too high on him. But he’s young.
Morrow might be the best shooter in the whole damn league. RFA aswell? GSW would have to be stooooooooooopied. Coach again, Nellie?
Foye and Hawes are very unimpressive to me, esp. at creating off the dribble.
Brewer could be a good bargain.

I’d have to read some draftexpress profile, i guess ;]

"Mais put… Il est fou ce gars!"

by DOH on May 4, 2010 3:02 AM CDT reply actions  

I've seen anyone talk about getting Stoudemire,

is that just too unrealistic or does he not fit with the team?

Because this is Arizona.

by Blair Rocket on May 8, 2010 2:33 PM CDT reply actions  

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