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Myth-Busting the Market for the Mavericks


A fantasy GM is born every minute and ideas are tossed around, some stick and some are shot down.  Based on names that haven't been discussed here as of late, we are going to take a look at some of the players being thrown around as potential signings and trades that could be made with the remaining assets that the Mavericks have.

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Andre Iguodala:  The swingman for the Philadelphia 76ers has been a target for the Mavs for at least a season or two.  His name was in heavy discussions prior to the trade deadline last season before Dallas went ahead and decided to pursue Caron Butler, Brendan Haywood and DeShawn Stevenson from the Washington WizardsEvan Turner's selection by the 76ers definitely support the claim that Iguodala could be on the block.  The secondary fact that Turner was flat out atrocious during the summer league could also support the fact that Andre could have some added value for the short term for the Sixers.  Contractually, it's questionable if his contract is friendly for the Mavs, he is due 56.5 million dollars over the remaining four years of his deal.  Depending on what is sent in return, there is always a concern of redundancy with pieces like Caron Butler and Shawn Marion if they aren't involved in the deal.  The big problem in the situation is "The Arm and Leg" theory I've discussed when it comes to a player like Chris Paul.  In this instance, the Sixers would want to incorporate busted down big man, Elton Brand in any kind of deal for Iguodala.  While it's questionable about Andre's deal, there is no debate that Brand's contract is an albatross.  There is basically very little left in the tank for Elton and he is due roughly 52 million over the next three years.  That is a major bullet you would have to bite to acquire Iguodala, I don't see it as a match.

Rudy Fernandez: Rudy is disappointed with his role in Portland and has been looking to be shipped out for quite a while.  There is another issue of redundancy between Fernandez and Jason Terry.  Both provide a nice spark off the bench and Rudy has shown to be a very capable shooter with range.  The problem is the price-tag for Rudy, it's actually too LOW.  Fernandez is making just a little over a million dollars this year.  He's a bargain, which makes Dallas just one of a list of teams that are interesting in acquiring him. The price-tag is low and both teams are over the cap so the salaries have to match.  The Blazers see him as a talent and they won't give him away just to give him away, so that scraps the idea of Alexis Ajinca or a trade exemption.  If you try to eliminate the redundancy and ship Terry out in exchange for Fernandez it gets incredibly complicated.  Jason Terry is set to make over 10 million next season, so a deal would involve more parts from Portland's side and that's not going to be worth it in their eyes to take on Terry.  It doesn't appear to be a match.

Gilbert Arenas: There is a laundry list of concerns when it comes to Agent Zero.  Washington wants to unload Gilbert Arenas and make room for John Wall to become the face of the franchise.  They want to unload him, but they still want to get value in return.  He is due over 80 million dollars over the next four years.  That is Dirk Nowitzki money and no one will ever confuse Gilbert Arenas for Dirk Nowitzki.  The early the contract could be terminated is after the 2012-13 season, he has a player option but who is going to walk away from 20+ million dollars?  There was an apparent rift in the locker room in Washington and Caron Butler and Brendan Haywood were rumored to be on the anti-Arenas side of the situation, there is no need to bring that history back into the fold.  Again, it all goes back to value.  You'll have to give up significant assets to obtain Arenas.  Are you willing to give up your financial flexibility this year and going forward to acquire Agent Zero?

Tracy McGrady: The Mavericks could clearly roll the dice on T-Mac and offer him part of their Mid-Level Exception, a very SMALL part of it.  The aging scorer had workouts with the Clippers and the Bulls over the past 10 days and still hasn't come away with a contract, that should be a red flag.  There are still question marks about his durability and the bigger concern seems to be whether he will cooperate being a complimentary player off the bench.  Reports in Chicago indicated he believes he can still be a starter in the NBA, history tends to suggest otherwise.  He has played 65 games in the past three seasons.  You can't put McGrady in a staring role because he simply can not be counted on with his knee issues.  The price-tag can easily be made into a low-risk offer, but the headaches McGrady could cause are not worth the trouble. 

Allen Iverson: This is a case of Tracy McGrady without the injury concerns.  Iverson clearly believes he can still be "The Answer" for whichever team he plays for.  After leaving the Sixers in 2006, Iverson has played for four different teams.  He hasn't been "The Answer" for a long time and he's only caused problems in rotation alignments for every team he has been on over the past four years.  Teams seem to improve as well after he departs, that isn't a great sign in endorsing Iverson as a free agent signing.  McGrady, injuries and all, has been tested out by at least two teams, while Iverson hasn't heard a peep from anyone in the league.   He is unwilling to accept a secondary role on a team and he only creates a bigger logjam at the guard position.

 

All of these players have parts to their game that could help the Mavericks but they don't do anything to put them over the top.  Instead, these players just create more problems rather than solutions.  Thus, these are not moves the Mavericks should look at making.

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Of that group of 5, the only one I’d really love to take a chance on would be Rudy, but that’d be tough as you said. Even though they won’t end up with the Mavs, if I had to guess where they’d end up:
Andre I – stays in Phili. Makes way too much money and is too important to them imo for them to move him.
Rudy – Packaged to NO in a trade for CP3 (although I hope this doesn’t happen for obvious reasons hah)
Agent Zero – Cleveland. Dan Gilbert is desperate.
McGrady – One of the two LA teams
AI – retires

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by mayur.patel on Jul 29, 2010 11:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Not yet

But if he were coupled with Brand, he would be. I think that’s what Mike is getting at.

by JoeyJoeJoeJr.Shabadoo on Jul 30, 2010 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

who he's traded with

doesn’t make an individual player with more or less paid. That makes no sense.

by Alan Smithee on Jul 30, 2010 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

$56.4 million? I think so.

But Rudy Gay just got $80 million for 5 years. So maybe it’s not THAT bad.

by mike_o on Jul 30, 2010 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

only 3 years, $41 million is guaranteed

that’s hardly severe, especially given that he’s still young. Joe Johnson just got six years 120 milliion, and he’s 30.

by Alan Smithee on Jul 31, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't get me wrong, though

I like what he’d bring to the Mavs.

by mike_o on Jul 30, 2010 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with

what you said about these moves. Why do some moves to lose us some of our few assets if all they will do is improve our team, not put us over the top.

If we do a move, make it bold. Don’t bring in another whiny aging vet, way out of his prime that can’t face the fact they cannot put up even 15 a game anymore. They can still contribute to a team as solid role players, but nay, they want to be stars still.

About Iggy, don’t count him out. You’re assuming the Elton Brand thing will go down, which is a fantastic point and youre probably, no, youre most likely right. But you shouldn’t count it out all together. And even if we DID have to take him, i wouldn’t care to take another bad contract because he may give us a shot to win. The window is closing. We don’t need to worry about the window being cracked by an inch 3 years from now, we need to worry about opening it another foot right now. So if a bad contract(I don’t necessarily mean Iggy and elton, just any bad contract) makes us worse and in a tight spot 3 or 4 years from now, but increases our chances right now, do it!

We have hopes in Dojo and Roddy, but those guys are no Nowitzki’s. Why not surround Dirk with as much talent as possible instead of worrying about keeping our future a possibility, all while HOPING roddy and dojo develop. I hate to have to say this but for all we know they could be busts. Better surround our ALREADY proven players with talent.

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by KarimTheDream on Jul 30, 2010 12:58 AM CDT reply actions  

Iverison and t-mac

sign Iverson and tmac to a 2 million 1 year deal if they ain’t no good just waive em..

by heatnewfan on Jul 30, 2010 1:08 AM CDT reply actions  

If they would take that. I believe both have interest from the Heat, if they both say they’re willing to come from the bench and take less money, then I’m sure the Heat would take one of them.

by Why on Jul 30, 2010 7:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Even at that price, they wouldn’t be worth it. It’d be like throwing a pipe bomb into a septic tank.
-BJ

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by BJ, the Michigian Ex-Pat on Jul 30, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rudy Fernadez,.......

Is a trade that has Donnie Nelson writen all over it.

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by robbo24 on Jul 30, 2010 8:09 AM CDT reply actions  

I'd definitely take Iguodala

He’s 26, is an elite defender, can get to the basket, pass and rebound…his contract isn’t extremely favorable, but I’d say it’s pretty close to what he’d get if he were a free agent, so you’re getting essentially straight up market value. Iggy strikes me as a classic undervalued guy, as he has a lot of skills but doesn’t stand out in the area most visible(outside shooting). Brand, while obviously extremely overpaid, still has value, too. Quality post game, still a decent rebounder, and he’s bulky and long enough to defend in the post. If he’s getting 25 minutes a night as the backup 4-5 I think he is a very valuable contributor.

If a Chandler/Butler/Stevenson/pick for Brand/Iggy deal can get it done, I’d think long and hard about it. The big drawback is that it wouldn’t give much financial flexibility, but short of a Chris Paul miracle it gives you the best team reasonable possible in the short term, and it would be hard not to be excited about a future Roddy-DoJo-Iggy trio down the line, all of whom are locked up for a while. Jones and Iguodala’s passing ability would take a lot of pressure off of Roddy’s forced development to fit into the more traditional point guard mold.

by Alan Smithee on Jul 30, 2010 2:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Great writeup Bryan

I personally would love to have Rudy instead of JET. I don’t think this could happen straight up, but there is a very very small possibility that we could acquire Rudy and then dump Terry elsewhere. I’m going to start looking into scenarios.

by JoeyJoeJoeJr.Shabadoo on Jul 30, 2010 3:50 PM CDT reply actions  

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