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Grading the Mavs' season: Shawn Marion

                After grading Jason Kidd, it seems that most of MMB thought favorably of him this past season, giving him mainly 7’s and 8’s. Now we get onto the next player on our report card, Shawn Marion.

On another note, the remaining players I have left on these are JET, Butler, Haywood, and Roddy B. If there’s anyone I left out that you guys want to see, make sure and say it in the comments. 

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Of all the roster discussion that has gone on in this past season, Marion has been seemingly talked about the least. For the most part, Marion did a great job on the defensive end as he held Kobe, LeBron, and Durant (among others) all below their season average. However, his skills have obviously diminished as he is no longer the player he once was. On the whole, though, he is definitely an interesting person to grade.

 

Positives: Marion was easily an improvement over Josh Howard at the 3. Guarding the other team’s best player on most nights, he improved Dallas’ overall team defense while also providing great versatility at different positions (including power forward when the Mavs went to their small ball line-up). Marion also had a terrific month of March – save for the last game in Memphis – as he shot over 50% from the field in all but two games while scoring in double digits in almost every game and averaging over 6 rebounds a night. This stretch, coincidentally, included part of the Mavs’ 13 game winning streak. Also, having played with the likes of Steve Nash, Marion, despite having near career-low numbers, was a great fit on offense with Jason Kidd.

 

Negatives: At 32, Marion is not very old for a basketball player. However, his 13 seasons have placed a lot of mileage on him. His numbers have taken a toll as a result as he has dropped from a guy that averaged a double-double on a regular basis. Now, coming off a season in which his points, rebounds, assists, blocks and steals were at their lowest since his rookie season, his numbers figure to drop lower as he gets older and more into his contract. On another note, he has one of the weirdest shots ever seen, which seems to have cost him in some situations.

 

My Grade: I’m going to give him a 7. I think the part that most people overlook in regards to Marion is his impact on the defensive end, which I felt was huge. Yes, he has aged, but the guy still has his spurts where he’s a great player. On the whole, he’s still extremely solid.

 

Outlook: Look for Marion to continue to be a solid player on this team for at least the next couple of years. But the contract he signed last year is going to look worse and worse as the days pass and it’s something that will need to be dealt with.

Poll
Rate Marion's 09-10 season, with 1 being the lowest (Kwame Brown) and 10 being the highest (Kobe).
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4 votes
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1 votes
3
6 votes
4
22 votes
5
50 votes
6
98 votes
7
69 votes
8
41 votes
9
6 votes
10
7 votes

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IMO, a 7 is fit for him.

As he was decent on offense and relied often on Kidd’s playmaking abilities, his defense is actually good. I never really had the chance of extensively seeing his whole game before he came here, other than in that two years Dallas played Phoenix in the playoffs (where he played many minutes in the 4 position); but I have to say that I am quite impressed of his overall play. As far as I am remember, Dallas never really had that lockdown defender for years. We already have one but unfortunately ours is someone who is already on the back side of his career.

"The idea is not to block every shot. The idea is to make your opponent believe that you might block every shot." - Bill Russell

by Marjun Raposon on Aug 2, 2010 11:58 AM CDT reply actions  

Glad that Marion's a Mav

But Shawn’s got to figure out a way to finish at the rim. I don’t think I can count the number of times he got a steal, ran the fastbreak, and missed an easy lay-up.

by mike_o on Aug 2, 2010 1:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Agree with this

He was a terrific finisher with Phoenix. Maybe it’s just age? Conditioning? Confidence? Whatever it is, he has the whole offseason to address it.

"The idea is not to block every shot. The idea is to make your opponent believe that you might block every shot." - Bill Russell

by Marjun Raposon on Aug 2, 2010 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

So many missed gimmies…

Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.

by jonthefon on Aug 3, 2010 5:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

4

I think he’s a great defensive player but last season was so inconsistent offensively he could not be counted on to play heavy minutes. Seems if he could develop some kind of consistent 16’ or 18’ shot that would enhance his offensive performance measurably.

by huebone on Aug 2, 2010 6:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Marion's role

I have no problem with Marion other then he is over paid this season by a little and a lot over the next few years. I would really like to see him as our 7th guy. I dont want Marion playing 35 minutes a game for us.

by mrichardson70 on Aug 2, 2010 8:26 PM CDT reply actions  

I guess I'm the only Maverick fan

who just straight up does not like Shawn Marion. With the money we’re paying him, and the minutes we give him I just don’t feel he needs to be on our roster.

I’m sure all you you will be giving me a thousand reasons why he is a great fit, but I just don’t see it. Something about this guy, I’m not sure what, makes me uneasy. I think it’s his salary. We should not have taken in that kind of contract for his talent.

I welcome, and expect, all of you to give me a bunch of reasons why he’s here, but it’s just something about him, I don’t like him. Don’t mean to be stubborn here.

~Karim!

by KarimTheDream on Aug 2, 2010 9:54 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't like him either.

I didn’t like bringing him in at that contract and I thought there were several games that he just killed momentum with turnovers and missed layups that should have been easy buckets. I will give him some credit for his defense at times, but I thought he was extremely questionable last year down the stretch and that he played very poorly against the Spurs.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Cowboyfan729 on Aug 3, 2010 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I gave the guy a 6...

but in a way I think I’m somewhat generous in that. Sure, it’s nice to have a defender like him on the squad but I would like to see him figure out how to finish at the rim as mentioned above. Maybe part of my dislike is over the contract too, I’ve just never been really impressed with him. He’s like a poor mans Ron Artest only not that cheap…

by elbow greater than face on Aug 3, 2010 3:07 AM CDT reply actions  

i can understand disliking the guy for his play since it was pretty lackluster

but don’t blame the guy for getting a lucrative contract. blame the person(s) who gave it to him. his play in miami and toronto, respectively, was clearly less than the standard he set in phoenix, but it was up to management to not fall in love with the idea of a player, and look at him objectively.

the mavs panicked and thought he was an important addition to the team, so they overpaid for something they thought they were desperately needing. let’s hope that haywood doesn’t fill such a role this upcoming season.

i think marion is a really good role player who gets a lot of flak for what he doesn’t do, which is play the game with finesse. he can’t create, but he mops up; and on a team full of chuck-the-ball-from-halfcourt players, that’s an unappreciated job sometimes.

I'm about to infect you with the back of my hand.

by buckets on Aug 4, 2010 12:01 AM CDT reply actions  

6... and that was being nice

Marion has been a perennial all-star, and although everyone expected it taking 30 or so games for him to get his wheels back, I was very disappointed, especially in the playoffs. He disappeared at times, occasionally reappearing to blow bunny lay-ups. We need a lot more out of him this year.

Greetings from the Humungus, the Ruler of the Wasteland, the Ayatollah of Rock and Roll-A. I laugh at your puny plans.

by Lord Humungus on Aug 4, 2010 8:19 AM CDT reply actions  

I'd give him a 7

I think he is generally mismanaged by Carlisle. There were moments where, no joke, Marion was flat out the best thing the Mavs had going in terms of scoring from the post.

He gets a very solid amount of chances to finish right at the basket, he just has a knack for missing them more than you would like.

Either way, Marion’s defense is something that can easily be under appreciated in a hurry.

by Bryan Gutierrez on Aug 9, 2010 12:53 AM CDT reply actions  

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