Would Denver Trade Carmelo Anthony To Dallas?
by I draft the Cowboys!!!! on Aug 30, 2010 9:12 PM CDT
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While this is an older post of mine Apparently there have been new developments on the Anthony Front. I really think that Dallas should seriously consider going after Carmelo. Now the Question becomes do you think Denver would trade Melo to Dallas? Or Will Denver try and trade him out of Conferance? Do you think We could Broker a deal with A team out of Conferance ,say the 76's for Andre Iglodala? if you want to weigh in please do so. I also gave a trade for Chris Paul but i edited that out due to the fact that it appears that Chris Paul isnt going any where.
Heres the Story..... Carmelo Anthony apparently wants to become a free agent in two years my Question is this..
Should we even go after Anthony? From what i can see the Answer is YES!! Not only would he be a capable Scorer next to Dirk He would allow Shawn Marion to become what he frankly is at this stage of his game A defensive specialist who can score a little. not to mention 'Melo isnt that bad on the Defensive end him self.
Now here is how My first offer to Denver... assuming that Denver waits to nearer to the deadline to trade Melo
Denver gets Butler, Stevenson, Chandler, Ajinca, Berea, plus Picks
Dallas gets JR Smith, K. Martin, Carmelo Anthony
Now I would be willing to Throw in Roddy if nessecary but only if Melo, and Smith signs an extension
Do you think this would be a good trade? if this Happened would it affect the rest of the roster?
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As with most teams besides LA/NY
Do you want to give all your assets away for a one year rental, because he most likely will not resign. Its this new gen of NBA player. No loyalty. They have the power. Quite disgusting.
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Uhm..
In a word, No.
In a short phrase, Hell No.
1st, There’s no “Throwing in” Roddy. He would be the first to go. We’d also probably have to take a salary dump from them, and ruin all hopes of having enough cap room for other FA’s. Melo would take away from our offense, and try to take over the team as he’d demand the ball more than he will get. He also comes with baggage. He can be a locker room trouble, as well as many technical fouls, fights, and etc. Say anything you want about Dallas, but one thing nobody can take away is that were a non-thuggish, very classy and rightly kept team. We don’t need Carmelo Anthony here, no sir.
~Karim!
by KarimTheDream on Aug 30, 2010 10:49 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
well the Salary dump would be K martin
and i would be willing to take that contract to get Anthony and Smith especailly as it only a 1 year/16.5 million deal (expiring contract). Also how would he “take over the offense” as you say? Isnt the point to give the offense Another player would can take the Scoring load off Dirk? And as far as the Locker room trouble aspect, frankly i wouldnt mind a player on this team who is willing to scrum it up a little. hasnt this team been refered to as “soft” on numerous occasions? Not to meantion that Dirk sets a Pretty good Example of how a player should be, and could help tame Anthony some. Really the only issue I would have is the Fact that we are giving up our Back up center, however It may be the Martin could perform that role
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by I draft the Cowboys!!!! on Aug 30, 2010 11:49 PM CDT reply actions
Does it matter that
were looked at as soft? A tag put on by other teams would not matter. Unless the LA Laker titles are invalid because there are a lot of haters for LA…. Anywho, we don’t need anyone to mess up chemistry in the locker room and “Scrum it up a little” We don’t play thug basketball here in Dallas.
No i don’t think we need someone to take the offense. Taking a load off of dirk is different than taking over a team. You are very wrong in that aspect sir. See:Pau Gasol. He takes a load off Kobe but in NO shape form, or fashion did he take the LA offense. It is still kobe’s team, much like this needs to stay Dirk’s team, and we don’t need Anthony to question it.
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by KarimTheDream on Aug 31, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Kenyon Martin in Dallas?
Never gonna happen.
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and why not?
at this point in his career he is simply a Expiring Contract. Now if he could still be a productive player remains to be seen
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by I draft the Cowboys!!!! on Sep 1, 2010 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions
He's on the downhill side of his career
and I don’t really see why Denver would deal him in a deal with Melo. If anything, they would deal Melo, then go and use the KMart chip to try and bring in someone to help their team. It’d be kind of wasting your two bullets on a team who’s probably not going to give you back much of value (sans Roddy B).
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Considering the history between Martin and Mark Cuban
Why would Martin want to join? Why would Cuban hire a player with a bad attitude?
Remember, they don’t get along.
He’s coming off of another knee surgery. He’s injury prone…blah blah blah.
I’d rather have Birdman in Dallas.
Chris Andersen could be in a porno with his 'stache. Too bad he still wouldn't know how to box out.
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been playing around with the Trade machine and came up with this scenario. Dont Know if the teams would go for this and i tried to address the team needs as i know them but hear goes
Dallas receives- Andre Iguodala, Carmelo Anthony, J.R. Smith, Al Thorton
Denver Receives- Butler, Stevenson,Roddy,Barea, G.Arenas, Jason Kopono
76’s receives- Jason Terry Shawn Marion
Washington receives K. Martin
NOw bear with me on this OK? Dallas gets four young players, three of them capable of Taking the load of the scoring off Dirk and a Thorton is well young but seems to be a good Backup
Denver gets several young players,cap relief, plus Arenas who is an Allstar,and softens the blow of losing Anthony
Philly get two decent Vets to back up there young but talented players
Washington gets cap relief and gets rid of Arenas, paving the way for John Wall
Now would this happen, more than likely not but it is possible
and wouldnt this be an awesome roster?!!
PG- Kidd, Andre,
SG- Andre Smith,
SF Anthony,Thorton
PF Dirk Thomas
C- Haywood Chandler
Reserves would be DoJo, Mahinmi, Ajinca
Tell me what you think of that please
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by I draft the Cowboys!!!! on Sep 2, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Here's what I think of that
It will never happen. Melo, Iggy, Smith and Al Thorton? For giving up Terry Barea, Roddy, Butler, Marion, and stephenson?
Not in this NBA buddy. Go Back to your NBA 2k10 franchise adn turn trade override OFF then propose another trade. The 76er’s giving up Iggy for Terry and Marion? The Thuggets giving up Melo Smith and K mart for Butler, a promising Roddy B, a decent shooter in Kapono(which cant do ANYTHING else, mind you) and scraps? No way sir.
When organizing a trade you have to make sure all teams profit. It’s not like 1 team will flush themselves down the toilet to let Dallas have a championship run. 1 Team will not take the fall so 2 other teams can have a more “Even” trade. This isn’t a computer simulation, teams are greedy. In this trade only Dallas gets better. If this trade were to Happen, the Mavs would have to throw in, probably Dojo, Cash consideration, every pick we have and are going to have, and that still wouldn’t do it.
Make a trade where all 3 teams get better, Don’t be bias towards Dallas, make sure the numbers line up, and we can talk.
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by KarimTheDream on Sep 2, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Did you read the Post Completely?
I explained why the teams might what to go with this,
Denver- Has stated that they want young players in exchange for Anthony and JR Smith (though why they would want to trade Smith i dont know just what i Have Read)
they get several young players in Roddy,Kapono(who could be switched with Thorton and not affect the trade),Arenas( not real young but still an All-Star) not to mention cap relief(Denver is about 25 million over the cap)in the form of Butler, Stevenson,,Barea,and Kopono. Between those Four Denver would Have 23.8 million coming off their cap next year. That is not exactly Chump change. Now would we have to give up some PIcks? Yes However The Four PLayers we get? JR smith 24, Anthony, Igudola
76’s- recently drafted several young players who will probably be All Star a Couple of Years down the Road, Evan Turner and Thaddeus Young, Terry and Marion are two Vets who can still play decent,and help their younger players
Washington- Wants to get rid of Arenas,not only because of the off-court issues but also to allow John Wall to play PG without having to look over his Shoulder
Now true these trades may or may not make sense in the win/lose column but if you are going to be trading Players of this caliber then you are more than likely going to suffer from it. Now like I said would this Happen probably not, but it is Legal according to NBA trade rules(goto games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine if you think you can do better)
I am simply putting it out there. Now would we have to give up some PIcks? Yes However The Four PLayers we get? JR smith,age: 24, Anthony, Iguodola and Thorton Age:26 These guys are young proven stars who are in bad positions on their team except Thorton but really just threw him in( so sue me I can Dream can’t I?) dont really Need him to make the trade work. Anthony wants out of Denver,and Andre doest want to play second fiddle to a rookie. You can mix and match as you see fit between the rest of the players and see what you come up with. Also you cant t tell me that if Mark and Donnie pulled that trade off you wouldnt be jumping for joy.
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by I draft the Cowboys!!!! on Sep 3, 2010 3:23 AM CDT reply actions
I don't think i can do better
But i also don’t propose stupid trade ideas. Why would the 76ers, in rebuilding form, want to take in 2 vets that can’t produce, OLD vets, with big bad contracts? makes no sense. Teams don’t rebuild by taking in veterans and coughing up their best player who is practically in his prime(maybe a year removed) the 76ers would never do this. It’s hilarious you’d even say that. As far as Denver, Kapono is not young. He turns 29 halfway through the year. About Thorton vs. Kapono they would want thorton for sure. not even a question, which automatically makes the trade worse for us..
Also, Denver is not going to give up One of the best 5 players in the NBA for salary cap dumpoffs. Also, they would not give up J.R. smith and K martin, 2 of their other 4 best players. You’re sayign Denver, a team that believes they can win it all, will give up 3 of their best 5, (arguably 3 of the best 4) for Roddy, butler, Picks and salary room? And do what? They’re an old team. They need Roddy but they need to win now. They revolve around Melo and their players are old around him. They don’t want to give up their best players for youth right now, hell they have a shot to win it all! Nobody wants the old/young mix, because they never win. Sure it looks good on Paper, but if you mix it you won’t win(always come short in playoffs) and in the future they’re not all that great, probably setting themselves up for more early-mid playoff elimination(See: 2002-2007 Dallas Mavericks) Also, G. Areanas is NO allstar. Not by a longshot. And why would denver want him? If Washington wants to give him up for being too much trouble why would another team jump to get him? makes NO sense.
Washington is not going to give up Gilbert for nothing. Yeah he’s trouble but he will do better on the team than anything he will bring in in a trade, because nobody wants him! He’s not the Areanas he used to be, mind you.
On a final note, NO. If they pulled this off i would be upset. We don’t need to keep changing this team around. We will never win. We need to keep our core guys and just play ball. Let them get used to each other. Develop chemistry. We don’t need to give up our whole team except for Dirk. Plus, I don’t want the thuggish and problematic JR Smith and Melo. Iggy would be INCREDIBLE to have, but dude. Get real. The 76ers will never give that guy up without getting something big. This deal is WAAY to bias for Dallas. The other teams would not want to do this.
If i wanted to, I could go on the espn trade simulator thing and find a way to get Kobe and Dwight Howard giving up the players you did. It might work, but there’s no chance anyone would do it.
~Karim!
by KarimTheDream on Sep 4, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
win with old young mix
Boston won it all with an old young mix in 07-08. Rondo was 22, Perkins 23, and Davis 22.
And I think the Mavs can win with an old young mix, if they will play the young guys. Roddy could have definitely made a difference in this past playoffs. And I’m hoping for big things for DoJo.
I’ve heard that the 76ers have considered moving Iggy to save money. He’s got a big contract. And they just drafted Evan Turner, who plays the same position. But your right, I don’t think that Jet and Marion would make much sense to them.
And I don’t think that giving up Beaubois and Jones makes a much sense for the Mavs.
I’m not even sure that I’d want to lose Butler. But if I were GM, I might consider sending Butler(whose contract expires after this season and would give Philly a salary dump), Ajinca or Mahinmi(which would give Philly some youth), and some combination of draft picks(maybe a first and a second round) for Iggy.
I think that might be fair for both teams.
But I don’t know how much better that makes the Mavs this year, And AI2’s contract is pretty big if he doesn’t put up All-Star numbers for the remainder of his contract.
i really dont want to lose Butler
Unless we can get a SF in return. That is why I would Rather trade Terry for Iggy, because lets face it Even if Iggy becomes a younger JET would that be a bad thing?
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by I draft the Cowboys!!!! on Sep 5, 2010 4:17 PM CDT reply actions
I like Butler also
I think the only way the 76ers would consider taking Jet and/or Marion is if they could include Brand in the deal. But that would make the trade have to include most of the Mavs expiring contracts. Because Brand and AI2’s salaries together add up to over $29M this season and more next.
But the Mavs do have a couple of trade exceptions. Not sure of the dollar amounts. But that might allow two separate but simultaneous deals to be done without giving up so many players and expiring contracts.
Actually here is how it could play out
Chandler for Iggy
Butler/Stevenson for Brand
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by I draft the Cowboys!!!! on Sep 5, 2010 8:05 PM CDT reply actions
I thought you wanted to keep Butler
And I’m not sure, but I think the Mavs might want to move Jet and/or Marion if they were going to take on Brands contract. That would keep the Mavs financial flexibility more intact. Because you never know who might be available at the trade deadline or next summer.
I think if they are going to give up Butler, then they would just do the deal for Iggy. They might have to give up Barea with him. I think PG might be a need for the 76ers this year.
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