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Why a Trade wouldn't Kill us...the Flip side...


KarimTheDream poses an interesting question....Why make a Trade at the Deadline? This Team obviously is good enough to compete with the best in the league(assuming Dirk is Playing more than 16 min a game), the players are buying into Carlisle's philosophy,(well most of them at least) and until recently were running neck and neck with the Spurs for the Best record in the League. So why change anything?  For one Simple Reason....that Team doesn't exist anymore. 

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Caron Butler is out for the Year, Dirk is still getting back in shape and Terry is frankly being Terry again. Brendon Haywood has been a HUGE disappointment, not to mention JJ Berea, while continuing to be a Defensive liability, seems to have lost the ability to consistently score. Also add to the fact that there doesn't seem to be any relief in sight on the Roddy front (yes I understand that he wasn't part of the team earlier,but still there was hope that he would have joined by now). 

Yet even with all that it is not all gloom and doom. Dominique Jones seems to be Roddy 2.0, Stevenson has turned it on the past few games, along with Marion, plus we all know what Chandler has done. Dirk will get back to being Dirk, and Terry has always been streaky. Let us not Forget that Ajinca and Mahinmi both seem to be pretty good players. Yet there is something missing, the same thing that has been missing for the past few years. That second scorer. That player that teams who play Dallas HAVE to account for. The Player that says "Go ahead and double team  Dirk, that means that I will take over." Butler was almost that person, avg. a solid 15 points a game, while giving Dallas a decent perimeter defender. How do you replace that? That is Donnie and Carlisle's task now. Signing Sasha Pavlovic is not the answer. Dallas needs a player that not only can be a good Defender, but be an Offensive Force. Here are my Suggestions on the Subject:

Scenario #1-76er's

Dallas Gets Andre Igoudala and Elton Brand

76er's get Jason Terry,Caron Butler, Brendon Haywood: 1 first round pick

This Trade helps both Teams in that A. the 76ers get an expiring contract in Butler, a cheaper replacement for Brand, and Terry who can help short term wise replace Iggy.

Dallas Receives a Premier SG/SF in Andre, plus Brand who while over payed would be a great compliment to Chandler and Dirk. the way I see it Brand would be what Lamar Odom is for the Lakers. A Backup that is more than capable of stepping into a starting role if need be. the Main question would be Where would Their Minutes come from? Obviously Andre's would come from Terry's and Butler's Minutes. Brand's Would be the interesting one. Haywood is avg about 19 mins a game while Brand is avg. 34 mins. Where do you make up the other mins? well not only would he back up Chandler but Brand would get 10-15 mins backing up Dirk. That would put him right around the 30 min mark(starters mins) while still allowing Dirk and Chandler get their mins. 

Scenario #2- Indiana Pacers

Dallas gets Danny Granger

Pacers get Caron Butler and Ian Mahinmi; 2 first round picks

Pacers not only get an expiring contract in Butler(which will give them 38+ million in expiring contracts) but would give them another young Center to pair with Hibbert who will be thier only C under contract after this year. 

Dallas gets a younger Caron Butler basically, though slightly better defensively.

Now I could think of a few more, however I will leave you with my dream Scenario:

only in my dreams-(click here)

do I need to Explain this?

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On paper,

we would be a better team after these trades. However, what would happen is this.

This year: We finish off with a 55 win record, maybe win in the first round, face an opponent that makes us face adversity. We can’t come together, fall apart in game 5 or 6.

Not to be a troll, but the chances to win this year are practically over. What we need to do it start to build for next year. Get Roddy back, get Dirk healthy, get back to winning games. Get a groove going. Go into the playoffs strong, win a series, maybe 2, then lose like I’m expecting us to, have a strong offseason, and come back just like we ended, this tiem with Caron back.

If we are going to win this year, it is not with a trade. Seeing as we are desperate for a trade, we will not get a sweet Gasol-like deal. Since we are the ones pushing for a trade, we will lose draft picks in order to get players that won’t help us.

In the end, if we trade, we will come up short this year. We will lose. To acquire whatever player we get that helps us lose(Due to lack of bonding and chemistry), we will have given up youth and probably a draft pick or two. That said player, probably being in his early to mid 30’s, will decline next year, as will our entire team, because we are aging. Except, instead of having a few youngsters to actually improve, they will be on said players team getting better, while we get older. Then next year around this time, we will call for another trade and on goes the cycle.

History has proven me correct. And it will again. Stop messing with our roster. Believe in this roster. Because putting belief in hope into the trade market has bitten us in the ass for 3 straight years.

~Karim!

by KarimTheDream on Jan 16, 2011 5:00 AM CST reply actions  

To link a Trade....

on the Trade is Successful screen click "Save Trade:

Highlight the link that shows up (will look like this: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yjbpmad

then use that in the URL for link

formerly I draft the Cowboys!!!
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by I am Ironman!!! on Jan 16, 2011 1:03 PM CST reply actions  

welcome to the site!!

thanks for posting :)

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by LJRotter on Jan 17, 2011 10:00 PM CST reply actions  

I actually have posted here before LJ

just under different Screen name…

formerly I draft the Cowboys!!!
Yes...I am Ironman....seriously my last name is ironman in German

Knowledge and Skill overcome superstition and Luck-Dawn Patrol

by I am Ironman!!! on Jan 18, 2011 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

ah HA

well you fooled me. welcome BACK.

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by LJRotter on Jan 19, 2011 9:35 AM CST reply actions  

didn't mean to Fool you LJ

I needed to redo my SB account due to the Fact that it was tied to my old AOL account whaich got hacked and Froze….

Plus I was wanting to change my screen name anyway so it all worked out.

formerly I draft the Cowboys!!!
Yes...I am Ironman....seriously my last name is ironman in German

Knowledge and Skill overcome superstition and Luck-Dawn Patrol

by I am Ironman!!! on Jan 19, 2011 6:54 PM CST up reply actions  

well now

I picture you in a red suit with a glowing thingie in your chest. well done.

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by LJRotter on Jan 20, 2011 10:58 AM CST up reply actions  

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