The non after the fact thread.
by bbob on Jan 22, 2011 8:56 PM CST
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Printhe Dallas Mavericks (also known as the Mavs) are a professional basketball team based in Dallas, Texas, USA. They are members of the Southwest Division of the Western Conference of the National Basketball Association (NBA). Founded in 1980, the Mavericks have won three division titles (1987, 2007, 2010) and one conference championship (2006). According to a 2008 Forbes Magazine report, they are the seventh most valuable basketball franchise in the United States, valued at approximately $466 million; the franchise is surpassed in value only by the New York Knicks, the Los Angeles Lakers, the Chicago Bulls, the Detroit Pistons, the Cleveland Cavaliers, and the Houston Rockets.
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Bad day. Either way, I think "the site" is...
starting to value number of posts over value. I understand there are people at be…
what is wrong
With the quality of content?
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by LJRotter on Jan 22, 2011 9:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I know other SBN blogs do after the fact..
but it seems like a waste of a post to me. I don’t read it (even though it’s only a few paragraphs) because I’m confident that I’ve either picked up enough from the game or that someone in the game thread has pointed out something about the game that I hadn’t seen before.
Other than that, I think there are some really quality must read posts that need to be read, but are covered up because one of the other authors have sent it to the bottom of the page with a lecture of how the mavs’ tie their shoelaces backwards when they start a winning streak. Sometimes less is more.
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that's none of your damn business and i'll thank you to stay out of my personal affairs.
I understand about the ATF
we are also hoping to attract people who didn’t just watch the game with us, while giving time for a quality recap to be written. I appreciate your input… really I do. it’s my job to listen to you guys, so if you can tell me in a constructive, reasonable post like this I am HAPPY to listen!
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I may have a solution LJ...
One of the Front Page Writers over at BloggingtheBoys (SBNation site for the Dallas Cowboys)set up a FanPosts of the Week award for the site…
After he set that up Not only did the Quality but the Quantity of Fan Post go up…
Maybe one of the Writers here could do something similar?
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by I am Ironman!!! on Jan 23, 2011 10:52 AM CST up reply actions
We already post enough dumb shit between you, bbob and I.
We don’t want some random dude posting their dumb shit.
Yeah, but..
Some of the ATF’s, go as follows…
Dirk scored some points, JJ still sucked, JET played decently in the 4th quarter, and the Mavs won/lost.
is that really worth it? If you truly are trying to reach the member that didnt get to catch the game:
a) they aren’t going to expect the ATF to be posted 4.2 minutes after the game
b) if they are trying to get a real recap of the game, it would entail a detailed analysis of each single play by play
..whatever JJ sucks, I have a gf who is also my sister, and buckets probably can’t hit a jumper.
might be
because you’ve seen the game. It’s good for me.
Y’all sound like Barkley complaining about showing clips of the game that just ended.
Selfish unglorious *
"Mais put… Il est fou ce gars!" - French Jesus about Jewish Ice-T
right
As Lisa mentioned, it’s geared more as a quick hits version of a recap for maybe someone who missed the game or did not participate in the GDT.
Could it be more thorough, sure. But as DOH mentioned, it works for that purpose. If it works for at least one person, I am sure it works for others. Also, it’s supposed to help keep conversation going and talk about the game…after the fact.
Plenty of sports blogs do an ATF-like routine that keeps things going until the full recap of the game posts.
by Bryan Gutierrez on Jan 23, 2011 4:33 PM CST up reply actions
You just made my point..
Why do you need an ATF that is half-assed to buy time to the full recap? Why not just put together a full recap, in due time, instead of posting random thoughts that you have 5 minutes after the game? Don’t let your ego get too far ahead of you, if the fan that doesnt have the time to watch the game needs to find out who won, they are going to espn, msn, or si.
Again, I’m trying to give constructive criticism. I find myself more and more skipping over you all’s posts because I think it’s filler to make sure you make a quota. Ensuing, I’m sure I miss relevant posts. I understand every other SBnation site does ATF, however, that doesn’t mean that their fans enjoy it.
I’m not trying to say MMB your first stop to get Mavs news, but it is becoming a stop now. It’s not trying to massage the ego by any stretch of the imagination…but that doesn’t mean I have high aspirations for the blog.
I said it could be better, I haven’t disagreed with you on that theory. We just changed the format this week, it’s still in the baby stage.
You are definitely entitled to your opinion and it is valued but there is no agenda to meet a quota. It is just getting information/analysis and opinions out there for people to read. If you think it’s filler…that’s your opinion.
by Bryan Gutierrez on Jan 23, 2011 5:50 PM CST up reply actions
My opinion is always right.
=). My biggest point is, you all shouldn’t feel that you have to have an AFT post up quickly after the game is over. Especially, when it means it limits the non-sensical banter between us homers is cut off because the game thread comments are “closed”.
And I’m pretty sure that all of you have a love complex with the little hispanic, you should change that up.
…and, dude, I appreciate the work you guys do. If it were zk, bruce, buckets, and I running this thing it would be nothing but postings of JJ massaging Rick’s shoulders, chicks with arthritis, and squirrels on fire.
I do see where you are coming from with the ATF, not so sure about the fact it cuts off the banter lol but oh well. Like I said, the format is in the process of changing, it is all a part of the process.
I personally don’t have a love complex with him…can’t speak for the other people on board.
We’ll have to agree to disagree on your stance with the end result of all of your opinions :)
by Bryan Gutierrez on Jan 23, 2011 6:54 PM CST up reply actions
guy, if i ran things
the squirrel wouldn’t be on fire, but your face would be.
EXCLAMATION POINT.
that's none of your damn business and i'll thank you to stay out of my personal affairs.
So your view on the game is the view through someone else's 2 minute thought?
I’d rather just read the box score.
i should read all the comments first.
that's none of your damn business and i'll thank you to stay out of my personal affairs.
yes and no
Boxscore and Recaps (AP and others) are a starting point when you want to know about the game you missed, but it helps a lot when people (ATF&Recap) who watched it can point out things to look for when i view the game at it’s later availability (for me). Scanning hundreds of comments for information is too tedious.
In short, don’t just tell me JJ sucked. Tell me what different way [to suck] he found in this game particularly.
For instance, AP and Boxscore didn’t mention anything about Avery’s blunder late with the timeout.
MMB did.
Game over.
"Mais put… Il est fou ce gars!" - French Jesus about Jewish Ice-T
the box score can basically tell you anything you need to know about a given game.
that's none of your damn business and i'll thank you to stay out of my personal affairs.
yeah i can. we'll play one-on-one any day, pal.
you can put up your pretty little sister girlfriend.
that's none of your damn business and i'll thank you to stay out of my personal affairs.
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by bluexfalcon on Jan 22, 2011 10:49 PM CST up reply actions
you're a laker fan
your argument is invalid. :>
"Mais put… Il est fou ce gars!" - French Jesus about Jewish Ice-T
old news
Cavs lost $200m after the decision. we’re #6!
FYI
for those who are interested, as of 9:45pm ET, the ATF from last night’s game had 146 page views, and the recap posted this morning had 125. I’m not saying one is better than the other, I’m just saying people seem to be looking at it and finding it useful.
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you closed the game thread 5 minutes after the game was over
i had about 50 of those because i wanted to take inventory of everyone who was too good to comment about the game while it was still going on.
that's none of your damn business and i'll thank you to stay out of my personal affairs.
I kept going back to see if anyone was still commenting after the thread..
buckets and I easily accounted for 75.
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