BREAKING: NBAPA to dissolve, sue NBA
In what is simultaneously shocking and the likeliest outcome of these last several weeks all along, the NBAPA has officially voted to dissolve itself as the negotiating body of the players and to sue the NBA in antitrust court. They've retained David Boies, who once argued in favor of Al Gore in front of Supreme Court, as their lawyer.
The player's official stance is that they have a responsibility to future players coming into the NBA. The owners' plan, according to them, was geared to eliminate basketball's middle-class, make it much more difficult for team's to retain their cores, cut the liability of owners to their players in the event of injury or poor performance, and create a marketplace inimical to young players.
Despite widespread optimism from columnists after last week's sessions, the rumblings over the weekend weren't good. Among other things, the players simply did not take kindly to Stern's take-it-or-leave-it tactics. The players felt, justly enough, that as the ones earning the owners whatever basketball related income exists they, at the very least, were entitled to more respect.
On the owner's side, there was a sincere commitment to creating a new kind of NBA system. Despite the fact that Stern was able to resist the demands of the hard-liners in general, the overall commitment of nearly all the owners to dramatic change ultimately could not be overcome---especially given the feeling that it is the players who will feel the sting of the lockout far more so than the owners.
The NBA now enters a period of extreme uncertainty. A swift conclusion is unlikely, thus also a season. Moreover, this is a last-ditch gambit. Only winning a court case could possibly have given the players' leverage at any point in this negotiation. Losing one, and having already lost too much of a season to use the remaining games as a bargaining chip, the players may find themselves without any legs to stand on at all. 47% BRI may, at that point, be the least of their worries. It's an all-or-nothing move.
We'll see how it plays out. We have no choice.
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Incidentally, it’s important that they’ve moved to “dissolve” not decertify. Decertify is a long process, dissolve is immediate.
right, they went from being a union to a trade association hunter and really good lawyers
are going to be continuing their battle in court
fisher said that these lawyers will assist them in getting a fair deal done
in any case in your face $tern and your resetting of the negotiation at 47% and a flex cap
more details they’re seeking a summary judgement against the nba hunter say’s they’re in good shape in their litigation, i think they should’ve done this a few months ago but theres still time to save a season
oh ya on a sidenote jason terry and chandler were at the meeting, kobe bryant is unshaved
and supposedly the decision was unanimous
interesting tidbit don't know what to make of it
This action precludes collective bargaining, but it does not stop negotiating, correct?
Boies: You wouldn’t have collective negotiations. Now, I think, the individual teams would have to negotiate with individual players. It’s back to the free market.
Hypocracy at its' finest
The players felt, justly enough, that as the ones earning the owners whatever basketball related income exists they, at the very least, were entitled to more respect.
And without the owners, you would not be making the money you do. I certainly hope that the players come up with a better stance than this.
Run if you intend you survive,
For the beast is coming to life.
by AfterSchoolSpecial on Nov 15, 2011 2:46 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
There's no "hypocracy" there, or hypocrisy if that's what you meant.
Without the owners, that would only mean that a) the teams are owned by the league or b) the teams are owned by a large group of fans of the team c) the teams are owned by several persons with no one having a majority, and therefore a board is needed to act as the “owner”, and thus would not be reliant on a single person
I'm reading this because it's interesting.
ever look at a word too long
and then NONE of the spellings look right?
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NBA: where the employees want to be the employers at the same time.
and they’re winning the sympathy and losing the apathy.
HOPE is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of men.
by simpleton cxi on Nov 18, 2011 6:51 AM CST up reply actions
Stay Lockout Stay!!!
im wishing for no NBA season this year. It’s unfair for the Champ Mavs to defend the Ring in a less than 82 games season.
Dallas Mavericks. The Last Champion of NBA.
HOPE is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of men.
nah, basketball needs to start whether if its going to be 50 or 20 games..
the dallas people want to see our banner raised already.
we all want NBA Basketball to start soon.
but if the season is not an 82-game season, i think it’s unfair for the defending champs to really defend it fair and square. That’s supposed to be the creed in all sports. If the Mavs will win again(which i believe) the Ring during this lockout shortened season, many will put asterisk on that championship triumph. Anyhow, we are all excited for that banner raising and really see how the champs will play the game again live.
HOPE is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of men.
by simpleton cxi on Nov 18, 2011 5:55 AM CST up reply actions
Did anyone put an asterisk when the Spurs won after the last lockout?
No, they did not. So if Dallas wins again, I’m all for it. Now, will this lockout end so, they can raise our hard-earned banner and see Dirk finally get the ring.
NBA records say the Spurs is the 1999 NBA Champion.
But was that fair? The end result does not justify the way it was done. Hence, to the fans outside SA, asterisk should be the middle name of that Championship banner. Patience is a virtue. As long as the NBA will not be phased out, our hard-earned banner shall be raised in due and fair time. Even some of us here used to deride the ‘99 spurs ring because it was won on a lockout shortened season. But if the 2011-2012 season shall still push through and, the Mavs shall win again then, we’re gonna be hippy-happy again. If we lose then, well, we’ve got reasons to shout. lolz
HOPE is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of men.
by simpleton cxi on Nov 19, 2011 7:40 AM CST up reply actions

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