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Mavs trying to trade Brewer, Fernandez?




Numerous reports indicate that the Mavs are trying to dump Rudy, Corey or both. Best guess as to why is that the Mavs spent their MLE on Carter, most of their trade exception on Odom and are now trying to find a way to add a 5 (Dalembert?)

The move is a little bit of a confusing one, leaving the Mavs relatively short at guard (Roddy, Jones, Terry, Vince), and especially short on the defensive side of the guard position.

Stay tuned. Poll after the jump.

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How do you feel about this?
Gotta do it. We need another C much more than we need two guys who haven't done too much in the NBA.
595 votes
Terrible idea. Let Haywood give it a shot, keep some of our only young talent.
407 votes
Uh.....we're giving VC HOW MUCH defensive responsibilty?
356 votes

1358 votes | Poll has closed

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I'm confused.

Donnie and Mark are onto something and I hope it is good.

"The idea is not to block every shot. The idea is to make your opponent believe that you might block every shot."

- Bill Russell

by Marjun Raposon on Dec 12, 2011 10:47 AM CST reply actions  

As the blog states, he's already getting paid by the Knicks..

so why not pick him up for the minimum? They aren’t clearing Rudy and CBrew for Billups, has to be for someone else.

I'm a pansy firefly. better?

by bbob on Dec 12, 2011 10:52 AM CST up reply actions  

i despise that guy he's a freaking ballhog, slow and wrong for the mavs

man i hope this happens
Marc Stein: Chauncey Billups scheduled to clear waivers tonight at 6PM but hearing Bobcats considering bid for CB despite his “don’t claim me”

by dimitrious on Dec 12, 2011 10:53 AM CST up reply actions  

The problem is, even in the shortened season, we know Kidd can't last and still be ready for the playoffs..

I’m on the same page as you, I’d rather Roddy and DoJo take the minutes he can’t handle. But in all reality it’s a safe move for the Mavs to make if those two don’t pan out.

I'm a pansy firefly. better?

by bbob on Dec 12, 2011 11:00 AM CST up reply actions  

the worst part of it is the way the team is now, it looks like it would have great chemistry

and be entertaining as hell, i don’t see that with billups on it, fuck me arggh

by dimitrious on Dec 12, 2011 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

You do realise

that usage% completely eradicates the notion that he is a ballhog, right?

i tell the truth; i lie a lot

by jonthefon on Dec 12, 2011 5:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Fuck my life

You mean to tell me that I’m going to be deprived of seeing Rudy in a Mavs uniform yet I get to see Wince’s old overrated ass in one?

All of my excitement during the draft was for nothing!

"I don't want no damn welfare pencil!"

by Marie on Dec 12, 2011 11:00 AM CST reply actions  

The universe is trolling you.

"The idea is not to block every shot. The idea is to make your opponent believe that you might block every shot."

- Bill Russell

by Marjun Raposon on Dec 12, 2011 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't care too much about shopping Fernandez

He’ll likely go back to Spain next summer anyway.

But Brewer has all the assets necessary to be a fantastic contributor entering his prime. Statistically he’s the third most efficient player on the roster after Dirk and Odom. We’ll need cheap players like him in the event we sign a Howard or Williams if we have to let some of these veterans walk next summer.

by lemonbrigade on Dec 12, 2011 1:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Go with youth

No Chauncey.

Football Fever is in full swing.

by Grady90 on Dec 12, 2011 11:31 AM CST reply actions  

but maybe its not all bad

Kurt Helin: UPDATED: The Bobcats WILL NOT bid on Chauncey Billups

If no bid is put in, Billups becomes a free agent at 6 p.m. (Eastern) tonight. Miami and Billups home town of Denver would be front runners for his services.
go to miami cmon, less touches for the big 2 1/2 as you run the shotklock and jack up shots

by dimitrious on Dec 12, 2011 11:58 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

in other news

Adrian Wojnarowski: Clippers are refusing New Orleans-NBA steep asking price for Chris Paul, league sources tell Y! Sports. “Deal could be dying,” source says

by dimitrious on Dec 12, 2011 12:15 PM CST reply actions  

I don't blame the Clippers

Getting Paul would be great, but with just him, Griffin, Butler and maybe DeAndre Jordan I can’t see them contending any better than New Orleans does right now. If he walks, they’re back to a lotto team.

I’m also thinking the owners are willing to let the Hornets tank at the end of the season if Paul walks. Why should they pay to make a competitor better? The original LA-Houston deal would have kept New Orleans in immediate contention, and it seems they would have taken on salary. So owners are paying more for the Hornets to take more quality assets in competition with their team. Better to let them tank, and sell to another owner cheap without Paul’s contract on the books – with the knowledge that the team is rebuilding – and allow them to move to any city of the new owner’s choice. Or maybe Paul would prefer the better money and will stick around. It’s a gamble I’d take if I was an owner who didn’t really have an interest in that team succeeding.

This is what happens with a conflict of interest – owners like Cuban would love to have Paul on their own team, and he gets a say in whether Paul gets traded as part-owner of the Hornets.

by lemonbrigade on Dec 12, 2011 1:03 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree

I do think they could make a decent deal by trading Paul as a rental for draft picks and prospects. That cuts payroll and doesn’t guarantee success, but is what the Hornets will need in rebuilding mode. I just think the owners are trying to force that direction one way or another.

by lemonbrigade on Dec 12, 2011 1:11 PM CST up reply actions  

some more news

Steve Kyler: General vibe in Orlando is Magic are not trading Dwight Howard… They will take Lakers approach and add and improve first

by dimitrious on Dec 12, 2011 12:35 PM CST reply actions  

I thought only real shot at Dalembert

was with big TE from Chandler deal. Don’t see how it’s Dalembert if it’s just a 1 year deal.

by Alan Smithee on Dec 12, 2011 1:11 PM CST reply actions  

Cuban might be willing to take the extra salary for a year

as the extrapunitive luxury tax doesn’t kick in yet. Dalembert might take a year contract to have a shot with a real contender.

by lemonbrigade on Dec 12, 2011 1:14 PM CST up reply actions  

I bet

we bring in someone like Kwame. No one good will settle for a 1-year deal: http://www.nba.com/freeagents/2011/

"I'm a unitard!" - Ralph Wiggum

by stupidsexyflanders on Dec 12, 2011 7:14 PM CST up reply actions  

sonofabitch yes yes

Adrian Wojnarowski: Chauncey Billups has been claimed by an NBA team off amnesty waiver — but it isn’t the Nets, league source tells Y! Sports

by dimitrious on Dec 12, 2011 5:10 PM CST reply actions  

woohoooo no billups on the mavs thank god, phew

Marc Stein: Every team in the league just received notification that Clippers have registered winning waiver bid for Chauncey Billups

by dimitrious on Dec 12, 2011 5:13 PM CST up reply actions  

block quotes, more info

Marc Stein: Heat wanted Billups. Magic wanted Billups. Mavs were lining up run at Billups. But CB didn’t make it to free agency in new amnesty

by dimitrious on Dec 12, 2011 5:18 PM CST up reply actions  

woohoooo no billups on the mavs thank god, phew

Marc Stein: Every team in the league just received notification that Clippers have registered winning waiver bid for Chauncey Billups

by dimitrious on Dec 12, 2011 5:15 PM CST up reply actions  

through his stats last season being mediocre it can be easier if they use Rudy or Brewer..

although i like Robin more, hes tougher in the paint and used to a fast pace offense with Nash. whichever one is fine as backup for Haywood.

by go87 on Dec 12, 2011 6:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Umm, this is coming from a Nets fan

Lopez is not going to be traded….at all. He was playing hurt last season, even though he played 82 game, but still averaged 20-6-1. Not to mention he went on a tear when Williams joined the team, so why would a team trade there only bright spot for a player that was waived last season(Brewer), and another player that was traded during the draft for god knows what(Rudy)?

Feels good to be back

by Shameer1016 on Dec 12, 2011 6:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think anybody on here is serious

although, if Dwight ended up with the Nets, I’d have tried to get involved in a 3-way trade to land Brook…

"Look at our current situation with that camel f$%ker over in Iraq. Pacifism is not something to hide behind."

by Walter Sobchak on Dec 12, 2011 7:15 PM CST up reply actions  

My bad guys

didn’t mean to rant. I’m kinda new to the Mav’s part of the board, so I’m not familiar with posters yet, but don’t laugh when I tell you why I’ve decided to follow the Mav’s….I’m a Kidd and Carter fan lol. Hope Mav’s repeat, but the lost of Chandler will have a staggering effect.

Feels good to be back

by Shameer1016 on Dec 12, 2011 9:35 PM CST up reply actions  

thanks for the support.

los mavs should be fine with additions of Odom.

by go87 on Dec 12, 2011 10:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Great addition

off the bench or starting, he will produce for the Mav’s. So if you had to take a guess, who would be the Mav’s starting 5 opening night?

Feels good to be back

by Shameer1016 on Dec 12, 2011 10:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Ima Nets fan

All Nets fans love Kidd and Carter. Since they left, we’ve won a total of 36 games the past 2 seasons lol. I’m not hopping on the bandwagon here, but I do wish the best to my two favorite players, even though there very old and declining lol.

Feels good to be back

by Shameer1016 on Dec 12, 2011 11:18 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

we're happy to have you.

don’t you worry.

Managing Editor of MavsMoneyball.com

by LJRotter on Dec 13, 2011 9:14 AM CST up reply actions  

We signed Delonte West

I’m not going to bring my mom to games.

"I'm a unitard!" - Ralph Wiggum

by stupidsexyflanders on Dec 12, 2011 7:12 PM CST reply actions  

not if they're going to trade any of their other guys

Delonte’s a useful piece…and Rudy may not make it over (on his own decision – who knows?)

"Look at our current situation with that camel f$%ker over in Iraq. Pacifism is not something to hide behind."

by Walter Sobchak on Dec 12, 2011 7:16 PM CST up reply actions  

thats whats up

mavs have a player who wants a ring first than lebron. also can be solid off the bench or starting for Kidd/ Roddy

by go87 on Dec 12, 2011 7:20 PM CST up reply actions  

hahaha

and will TOTALLY mindf&(k Lebron in the Finals again, if we both make it back…

"Look at our current situation with that camel f$%ker over in Iraq. Pacifism is not something to hide behind."

by Walter Sobchak on Dec 12, 2011 7:36 PM CST up reply actions  

progress stopper for roddy and Dojo

Sean Lissemore = The next Bruce Smith

by Lissyyyyy on Dec 12, 2011 7:28 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Roddy should see minutes at SG and Dojo is too unproven to be the primary backup.

I really like signing West. He can play defense and take the load off of Kidd even more (Kidd probably won’t make it playing more than 30 minutes again in my opinion).

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Creasy729 on Dec 12, 2011 8:11 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Here's my take on all this randomness

We’re stockpiling options; We have no conventional backup PG or C behind Kidd or Haywood; however, we have extreme roster flexibility now to go “big” with Terry, Carter, and a combination of Marion/Odom/Dirk/Haywood in spurts; we can go “small” and efficient offense with Kidd (or Roddy if he’s working out), Terry or Rudy, Vince, Dirk and Odom; we can go defensive with Brewer and Delonte West out there; and if things don’t work with West, or Rudy, or DoJo, or Roddy, or Mahinmi, or Vince, we’ve got all of those options.

"Look at our current situation with that camel f$%ker over in Iraq. Pacifism is not something to hide behind."

by Walter Sobchak on Dec 12, 2011 7:40 PM CST reply actions  

I give up trying to figure out this fucking team

Delonte West and Wince Carter? You have got to be fucking kidding me.

"I don't want no damn welfare pencil!"

by Marie on Dec 12, 2011 7:41 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Please stop whining

Although we haven’t seen anything yet, we’re actually highly likely to be a better team than last year. We’ve just added four guys that are (or are nearly) double digit scorers (West, Odom, Carter and Fernandez). We could potentially have seven or eight guys in double figures nearly every game. All of these players can play at least two positions. Some, like Carter and West, are hungry for rings.

All our positions except the 5 are at least two deep with quality players, and even the five is flexible if we go with a Dirk-Odom-Marion lineup. And we never know – maybe Mahinmi will come into his own. Some of our third stringers would start on many teams.

We’ve also stolen the Lakers’ height advantage. Five guys over 6’10", and three can be on the court at the same time (Odom, Dirk and Haywood).

Carlisle has a plethora of lineup options to respond to every possible situation we can encounter.

And we have lots of moveable assets/expiring contracts in case something doesn’t work out. Most importantly, we’re still in the free agent sweepstakes.

I’ll take this situation where we are still easily contenders anyday, even with a little personnel drama, over overpaying Chandler, Butler and Barea to lock ourselves out of a future. I bet just about every team out there is envious of our depth. A few days ago, we weren’t really contenders; we had no players to package as a viable offer. I don’t know exactly who you were expecting to pick up, but I say the front office has made nothing but brilliant moves, as hard as it is to lose Chandler.

by lemonbrigade on Dec 13, 2011 12:22 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

that gets a rec lemon

with the Donte West signing, bringing the roster up to 15 I will be putting up my roster post within the next few days….

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by I am Ironman!!! on Dec 13, 2011 3:33 PM CST up reply actions  

1030 votes? You guys are crazy terrific!

by andytobo on Dec 12, 2011 10:40 PM CST reply actions  

now it did happened.

Good luck to those guys. Keep healthy.

HOPE is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of men.

by simpleton cxi on Dec 13, 2011 10:35 PM CST reply actions  

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