Good News, Bad News 0-2 Edition
We all knew we’d do this. You and I figured that the Mavs would dump the first two. We didn’t expect we’d dump ‘em like this, losses which might be said, without putting too fine a point on it, to turn that particular verb into a noun.
However, though we were all prepared for a couple of losses, despite our reassurances to each other that this was probably going to happen, we are also now prepared to panic. It’s the nature of the losses. They were not good.
Let’s nevertheless not make more of it than it is (while also making exactly as much of it as it is).
Listen. Billy Pilgrim has come unstuck in time, and the reason the Mavs were indomitable last year was because of team work. DeShawn Stevenson is not better, Brian Cardinal is not better, than the guys on the end of other people’s benches. But they knew what they were supposed to do, they rarely did anything else, and everyone knew where they’d be. This made them infinitely better. That’s how great team work works.
You know who couldn’t possibly have any of that stuff yet? Lamar Odom. Vince Carter. Delonte West. Even Roddy Beaubois and Dom Jones, who ended up with not much of a role last year for exactly that reason couldn’t have that. They manifestly don’t.
So we stop for a minute and take into account the fact that really, without an athletic center to make up for the lapses inherent in playing a scrambling zone with a bunch of guys over thirty anyway, not only is this type of thing (huge, grotesque blowouts) very much possible for an old team that might still turn out to be good, if any teams were going to turn the endemic vulnerability of an aging team without an athletic center into huge, grotesque blowouts it would be the Heat, the Nuggets and the Thunder, guys who eat slow teams that can’t figure out how to score, for lunch.
So, it’s a bad situation and these are the exact wrong teams to play while in that situation.
Does that mean I am not worried?
No it doesn’t mean that I am not worried.
I think the offense will be fine. If Lamar Odom learns to play alongside Dirk as well as Shawn Marion does, that would be great. It doesn’t seem likely, at this point, that the Vince Carter signing is going to do much—if he’s just going to shoot threes, we can find someone who could do that better, and less often—but it was a low-risk signing, and there’s hope for him yet.
The question is, what can the defense do?
Defense isn’t magic. You’ll hear it’s a matter of will, and the team will tell you it’s a matter of will, but that’s because fans, coaches, owners and every person involved with sports needs to believe that they and we are not doomed. That something can be done.
But 33-year old guys, never known for their speed in the first place, can’t chase 23-year old guys. No matter how much they grit their teeth.
The zone, last year, was the perfect solution to the problems you saw these last two nights. With Tyson Chandler back there, your Jason Terrys were free to concentrate on making sure the guy in front of them had a hard time because there was somebody to clean up the mess if that pressure caused them to be a step slow on the drive. Now there is not.
It’s not even Haywood’s fault. Haywood is actually getting a bad rap, I think. He’s not such a terrible center, but he’s the wrong center for this defense. If this defense needed somebody to body up the other team’s center, I think he would do okay. They don’t. They need him to clean up after them. That’s not what he does.
So, looking ahead, the Mavs have two options. The first, which is to invent a scheme that covers up defensive vulnerabilities, like they did last year, may seem impossible given current personnel.
The other is just to have a team that has glaring defensive weaknesses. So far they seem to have that option on lockdown.
For a few bright moments, Sean Williams looked like a guy who could help them get towards the first one. In all honesty, he seems immediately a better fit for this team than either Haywood (not athletic or quick enough) or Mahimni (who’s basically a weaker, worse Sean Williams). But you and I know that if defensive anchors came out of the D League or Israel, the NBA would be a different place.
It’s possible. He looked great. I mean, really great. He also turned the ball over three times and committed five fouls (a couple of which, granted, I didn’t agree with). He also immediately vomited upon leaving the court.
So what’s going on?
Well, here’s the bad news in a nice, itemized list:
1) The Mavs don’t have time to coach Sean Williams up. They don’t have time to coach anyone else up, either. This is going to be the fastest, most chaotic NBA season ever, and this is the worst possible Dirk-led Mavericks team to weather such a thing.
2) It’s hard to imagine how the Mavs are going to find even a decent defense in all this
3) While the Mavs would honestly probably do well, even right now, against the slower-paced teams –your LA Lakers (also 0-2), your Boston Celtics (0-1) and so on, the upcoming schedule is not kind. After this, the Mavs play the Thunder twice in the next 5 days, and in between, a Minny team that for all of its warts, still took the Thunder right to the end of it today because they too are young, fast, and get out in a hurry.
4) It’s more and more apparent that the Mavs high command consciously chose to sacrifice one of the last few years of Dirk’s prime for the sake of re-inventing the team, then lucked into a couple of moves, like Odom and Delonte and possibly Sean Williams, that would still give them a shot at competing this year. And, unfortunately, that was probably the plan from well before the lockout.
On the other hand, here’s the good news:
1) The Mavs started 0-4 the season they won 67 games—including a 107-76 loss to the Rockets and 103-85 loss to the Clippers.
2) They started 2-7 in 2008-2009, the year they upset the Spurs in the first round and won 51 games.
3) Outside of the Heat, Nuggets and Thunder, the Mavs will also be playing the Raptors, the Suns, the Hornets and the Pistons in the next 8 games. They also remain favored against the Timberwolves, obviously, despite what I said above. Would you take a start of 5-4 after these last two games? I would.
4) Whatever the Mavs planned, they were both opportunistic enough and smart enough to GET guys like Odom, Delonte and Williams which means they still DO have a plenty good team this year. If everybody can figure out their roles.
5) If the downside of being an old team is getting your caboose booted by two young, fast teams in the first two games of the season, it is undoubtedly also knowing how to get through it, if anybody does.
6) Dirk looked pretty good, yesterday. As long as that’s true, things are going to be okay in Masvland.
Bottom line, what these last two games have shown us is the kinds of things that MAY be trouble all year long, but don’t have to be. With faith in Dirk Nowitzki, hope in Sean Williams and Lamar Odom, and malice towards none, all of this may be behind us before you know it.
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Did any of your guys play in Europe during the lockout?
Ty Lawson, Gallinari, Mozgov, Fernandez all played in Europe and they all looked ready to play (except maybe Mozgov). Seemed like the Nugs had their legs under them, while Dallas looked shockingly hungover.
Maya: "What are your first impressions of Denver?"
Mozgov: "I must break you..."
He also played in
the D-League for Texas before.
"The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"- Qui-Gon Jinn
Dirk briefly played in the euros
But that was awhile ago. I don’t know of any of the other players who played in europe.
Dirk playing in the Euros wasn't a good thing for him.
He’s clearly still trying to build his was up to his normal playing condition.
by Tim Cato on Dec 27, 2011 3:22 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Get Vince more active in the game by playing calls for him and force feeding him the ball in the post
And he’ll get it going if the Mavs are willing (and he’s willing) to do this.
I’m serious about this. I know he looks old and slow and guess what – he is. But put him in the post and something good will almost always happen. And when he’s getting involved on offense he suddenly starts to play more actively on defense, he’s always been like that all his career long.
I'm going to say what everyone is thinking: Sean Williams is our Jesus Christ
There I said it.
He’s the savior – messiah if you will – for this team.
Sean Lissemore = The next Bruce Smith
He was great! The Mavs should seriously try putting him as a starter.
by Bona Castillo on Dec 27, 2011 7:36 PM CST up reply actions
its too early.. but we really need a "messiah" this season.
Dirk is a given..
HOPE is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of men.
by simpleton cxi on Dec 28, 2011 3:21 AM CST up reply actions
I believe!
"The idea is not to block every shot. The idea is to make your opponent believe that you might block every shot."
- Bill Russell
by Marjun Raposon on Dec 28, 2011 8:18 AM CST up reply actions
I apologize for not posting Monday
I had the flu and I didn’t feel well enough to sit upright and type but I flipped back and forth between the Mavs debacle and the Falcons/Saints game and hoped we would make a comeback. Although we didn’t, I just want everyone to know I’m here for good times and bad, just so long as I’m not barfing in the shower. GO MAVS!!!
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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!
by the new Bradfather on Dec 27, 2011 5:22 PM CST reply actions
Awesome slaughterhouse-five ref
by aarontangsays on Dec 27, 2011 6:46 PM CST via mobile reply actions
The line about Billy Pilgrim is (if I remember correctly) the first line of Slaughterhouse 5
by DerUbermensch on Dec 28, 2011 4:42 PM CST up reply actions
"all of this happened, more or less"
is the first line of slaughterhouse-five. in the movie version, the first scene is pilgrim writing a letter confessing that he is unstuck in time.
go mavs.
by Let'sGoRalph on Dec 28, 2011 6:09 PM CST up reply actions
Great article. A lot of people have been saying to give the Mavs time and they will get better. What I’m worried about is that time is not really something we have, what with a short season and an aging roster. I just really want the Mavs to win one more before either Dirk, Kidd, or Terry retires so they can cement their legacy. It’s obvious the Mavs haven’t been practicing during the lockout except probably for Terry and Williams. I think they are lacking motivation too. I would like Carter or Odom to say that ‘Hey, the team needs time to work together but I got to step my game up too. I have to be more aggressive."…you know, challenge themselves. Somehow, I feel if they say that, I know they really want to be here. Yeah, I think some of us have been really hard on Haywood (including myself) but you know how frustrating it is to see him right under the basket and not give any effort to get the rebound?? I’m like, ’you’re right there’ and the guy behind him jumps and gets the rebound.
Carlisle now has the chance of starting Williams thursday night.
just to be a presence on the interior like Tyson was. cause really Chandler didn’t score much at all. he was just height and scrappy gameplay. what i saw from Williams is he can be quicker than what Tyson was not to mention younger. just needs to be confident in the paint every game. then mavs can have a true rotation of centers.
Williams won't start thursday
Just too soon to bump Haywood. I really need to see more of Sean to properly analyze him, but that was of course encouraging the other night. Haywood is what he is…some of it is lack of effort but I think mostly he’s not a good fit here. Just too slow. We need an athlete at center, that’s how this team works best. Unfortunately, a lot of those types tend to be foul prone or try to get by with just their athleticism. One of the best things about Tyson was that he was smart and could qb the defense. He was also great at not biting on fakes. A lot of these things take time and nba experience. If all goes well for Williams, I could see him playing a big role off the bench and maybe even starting later in the season. But he would have to take a big step forward both on/off the court.
well he is a nice prospect from our D league team the texas legends.
the classic del harris coached him well.
I believe he was coached by Nancy Lieberman
Not Del Harris
You won't get the "I gotta step up and play aggressively" from VC unless you give him the ball
I hate to repeat this thousands of times, but it’s true. Give him the ball, call plays for him, pass it in the post to him, get him going, and he’s going to be a totally different player on BOTH ends of the floor (yes that’s true – when he’s engaged offensively he “wakes up” and plays better defense).
Trust me – I’ve been watching him for what, 6-7 years now and I know what I’m talking about.
If you try to use him as an off ball player he’s going to suck at this moment in his career. But if you keep him as an on ball creator (kind of like a half court offense point guard) he’s going to be good.
Make post plays for him and you’re almost guaranteed something good is going to happen.
You mean our defense sucks without Tyson Chandler and Deshawn Stevenson?
Mind. Blown.
Football Fever is in full swing.
Out of topic comment/link
here. For all of those who hate Chris Webber like me, this will give you a chuckle.
"The idea is not to block every shot. The idea is to make your opponent believe that you might block every shot."
- Bill Russell

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