Deron Williams headed to the Nets
by Daveheart on Feb 23, 2011 10:58 AM CST
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Somehow the Warriors are involved, but essentially the Nets get Deron Williams and Utah gets Favors, Harris, and a couple of first-round picks. What (if anything) does this mean for the Mavericks?
Of course I have no proof, but I believe the Mavs were gearing up for a run at Deron Williams next season. I think their desire to land Devin Harris without surrendering more than Caron Butler's expiring deal was all about acquiring Deron Williams. I believe the Mavs knew that Utah liked Devin Harris and felt that a package of Harris, Beaubois, and two first-rounders would have brought them Williams. Missing out on Harris likely ends any possibility of the Mavs landing Deron Williams in a trade. Did anyone else out there get the same feeling about this?
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we're getting rid of all kinds of threats in the West
mua ha ha ha ha
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True. The chances of the Mavs are getting bigger everytime a franchise player is shipped to the east.
"The idea is not to block every shot. The idea is to make your opponent believe that you might block every shot."
- Bill Russell
by Marjun Raposon on Feb 23, 2011 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
I love Deron Williams.
I want him in a Mavs uniform at some point.
"You're failing Seymour; what is it with you and failure?"
no <3
4 Marie.
As for the trade, West’s Star Exodus of mid-major Playoff Teams continues….It will be LAL, SAS, DAL, OKC the next 2-3 years ONLY.
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I know, right
:(
I see how it is…
"On my deathbed, my final wish is to have my ex-wives rush to my side so I can use my dying breath to tell them both to go to hell one last time."
sorry
nothing personal. his had a discussion topic to promote… well… discussion. you get credit for breaking the news first.
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well i actually learned of it from Marie's post
and then i started checking for other posts/articles… kudos, Marie, fast hands
yeah, somehow espn got demoted to second option for me when it comes to Mavs news
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heh. I replied to Marie's because it was the first post I saw
regarding the Deron-Devin stuff. Fast hands indeed.
Of course I have no proof, but I believe the Mavs were gearing up for a run at Deron Williams next season.
Interesting theory. Like I do.
Fit well into the Mav’s System D-Williams would.
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could you please at least be a little more consistent with the yoda-talk?
Right now it’s too much on/off speak.
About that, think.
"Mais put… Il est fou ce gars!" - French Jesus about Jewish Ice-T
consistent with his schtick, he is not.
failure at life, and a hypocrite with his signature, he is.
my folks were always on me to groom myself and wear underpants. what am i, the pope?
hmm
let’s put some [buckets] in the pool to afford him a two-year-education at spurstalk.
"Mais put… Il est fou ce gars!" - French Jesus about Jewish Ice-T
i was thinking of joining ptr in order to see how long i would last there before being banned.
i would say that gary neal is a system scrub.
my folks were always on me to groom myself and wear underpants. what am i, the pope?
45 comments, i guess.
btw, don’t insult the choo choo, pls.
"Mais put… Il est fou ce gars!" - French Jesus about Jewish Ice-T
45? you're too generous. i'd say 20.
i’d be super-inflammatory.
my folks were always on me to groom myself and wear underpants. what am i, the pope?
stop
if it hasn’t happened yet, it won’t happen. enough begging
my folks were always on me to groom myself and wear underpants. what am i, the pope?
if he's not actually trolling
(which he isnt) then I can’t really ban him for just annoying you guys. if I banned everyone who annoyed you, we’d have no blog.
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well we wouldn't have a managing editor.
kakow
my folks were always on me to groom myself and wear underpants. what am i, the pope?
by buckets on Feb 23, 2011 1:00 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Not THAT reply
was particularly brutal.
Pounding the Rock
I cannot wait for the sixth fifth. - LasEspuelas
oh, we have a second spurs fan. you guys should have a blog or something!
my folks were always on me to groom myself and wear underpants. what am i, the pope?
I get the reference
but how does it apply here?
by elbow greater than face on Feb 23, 2011 2:30 PM CST up reply actions
he does the tangent thing. I had to look it up myself because im not into wrestling.
I believe he is saying your mod is under orders from Vince McMahon, but I could be wrong.
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LOL
I still don’t get how it applies, maybe if we had a heavyweight title and the champ was leaving to post at a competitors blog…
by elbow greater than face on Feb 23, 2011 5:51 PM CST up reply actions
Appreciate I do. I only talk sports and will keep it to this Lisa. I will never personally attack anyone on MMB or disrespect anyone. It would be a poor reflection on myself, my team, and PTR.
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I know our guys can be a bit moody :)
if they get mean, just give ‘em time to cool off. or go punch a pillow. that’s what I do.
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only get mean because we <3 the team and the manager. Also, the...
"Mais put… Il est fou ce gars!" - French Jesus about Jewish Ice-T
That bunny
really does look like he’s taking his interneting seriously.
Pounding the Rock
I cannot wait for the sixth fifth. - LasEspuelas
if you don't know that bunny's name
nobody can take your interneting seriously anymore. #cmonson
He…
is an anthropomorphic “hyperkinetic, three-foot rabbity thing” with white fur, but prefers being called a lagomorph. He retains few characteristics consistent with a rabbit, with permanently rigid ears set in an excited posture and a huge jaw normally stuck in a crazed grin. Unhinged, uninhibited and near psychotic, he enjoys violence and tends to prefer the aggressive way of solving problems, seeing the world as little more than a vessel for his “pinball-like stream of consciousness”. This creates a seeming disregard for self-preservation; he will revel in dangerous situations with little impression that he understands the risks he faces. As a result, he is usually enthusiastic to engage in any activity, including being used by [his partner] as a cable cutter or an impromptu bludgeon. Despite this, he possesses a sharp mind and an observational nature, and enjoys interpreting new experiences in as unpredictable manner as possible. However, he has a distaste for long stories and occasionally loses focus during lengthy scenes of plot exposition; by his own admission, he possesses a particularly short attention span. Despite his seemingly heartless personality, he believes strongly in protecting [his partner]. However, he can still act violently towards his friend, stating that when he dies he will take him with him. Moreover, he is extremely possessive of his partner and their status as partners and best friends. He traditionally carries a Luger pistol, but as he wears no clothes, other characters often make comments as to where he keeps it on his person. [His Developer] considers him to be representative of pure id, the uncoordinated instinctual trends of the human psyche.
Yeah, i think that pretty much gives it away.
"Mais put… Il est fou ce gars!" - French Jesus about Jewish Ice-T
Max is alright with me. Although I’m more of an xkcd and wondermark kind of guy.
Pounding the Rock
I cannot wait for the sixth fifth. - LasEspuelas
Well if everyone would stop talking to him
he might go away.
The poster formally known as Blair Rocket
i prefer to be abrasive until he cries.
my folks were always on me to groom myself and wear underpants. what am i, the pope?
the good guy routine is the patronizing.
annoy then befriend
my folks were always on me to groom myself and wear underpants. what am i, the pope?
again, why the negative attack buckets? I was complementing Davehearts post.
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i responded to doh, not you.
my folks were always on me to groom myself and wear underpants. what am i, the pope?
also, it's not an attack. it's a simple couple of sentences that are fact-based.
my folks were always on me to groom myself and wear underpants. what am i, the pope?
consistent with his schtick, he is not.
failure at life, and a hypocrite with his signature, he is.
I don’t appreciate the personal attack. It’s not warranted.
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well
i don’t care. if you don’t want to be personally attacked, then you can get the fuck out.
my folks were always on me to groom myself and wear underpants. what am i, the pope?
also, it’s not an attack.
i don’t care. if you don’t want to be personally attacked, then you can get the fuck out.
wow
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yeah, you annoyed me to the point where it became an attack.
wow
hey, i can do that, too.
my folks were always on me to groom myself and wear underpants. what am i, the pope?
What did I say on this post to annoy you? Truthfully?
Why do you have to be hate-monger to people just because they don’t like the same team? We’re all Texan. We’re all human. I just want to discuss sports.
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it's not one post. surely you're smart enough to know that.
you’re the fan of a team that i despise, and you come in here with opinions about our players. they’re unsolicited opinions that no one outside of pounding the rock cares about.
you question our love for players, and think that we go to far with our expectations, but you know who doesn’t expect too much? spurs fans. go talk to them and leave us alone.
if we wanted to discuss anything with you, we’d take a trip on down to san antonio and ask for your opinion.
my folks were always on me to groom myself and wear underpants. what am i, the pope?
Respectfully. thats not what this blog is for the buckets. MMB is to discuss the Mavericks. You and I might see differently about which team we route for in the stands, but we don’t have to hate each other. It really shows poor immaturity.
All im saying is you have the right to discuss your opinion on this blog as much as I do. I am not going to slam you personally and tell you to “F##@ Out”, ever. I have more respect and don’t want it to reflect poorly on myself or my team.
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D-Will to Dallas still not impossible
What I’m seeing is that D-Will didn’t see this coming and is unhappy about the trade. There is absolutely no guarantee that he signs an extension in NJ, and the new CBA could allow Dallas to go after him for cheaper than we could if we tried to do it now. If NY picks up a third star, D-Will may just realize that the west (and Dallas in particular) gives him the best chance for a deep playoff push. The west still has a deeper talent pool, but the east is getting pretty damn top-heavy.
Just spitballing.
If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!
THE MAVS DIDN'T GET DEVIN HARRIS BACK?!
but it was a theoretical trade that we, the fans, and a few stupid reporters, respectively conjured! i don’t believe this. shocked isn’t the word i would use to express my feelings. i’m electrified right now. my faith is shaken. how could half-assed conjecture be wrong.
brb gonna go walk around while singing dust in the wind.
my folks were always on me to groom myself and wear underpants. what am i, the pope?
by buckets on Feb 23, 2011 11:52 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
It was reported that the Mavs initially offered only Butler's expiring contract.
The Nets wanted more (DoJo plus a first-rounder), and the Mavs rejected the request.
"The idea is not to block every shot. The idea is to make your opponent believe that you might block every shot."
- Bill Russell
by Marjun Raposon on Feb 23, 2011 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
yeah i saw that.
this kind of trade supports crazy idiots coming up with every trade possible because no one saw that coming. it was all portland or dallas.
my folks were always on me to groom myself and wear underpants. what am i, the pope?
Yeah, I actually believed them about Portland and Dallas.
But no one really saw this coming. I even doubt Deron himself knew this. It seems like Prokhorov and the Nets front office has some underground negotiation skills.
"The idea is not to block every shot. The idea is to make your opponent believe that you might block every shot."
- Bill Russell
by Marjun Raposon on Feb 23, 2011 12:01 PM CST up reply actions
or he's threatened to ninja anyone in his front office who talks to media.
he’s the intimidator.
my folks were always on me to groom myself and wear underpants. what am i, the pope?
He may have learned the disadvantages of having a public negotiation
Such as that of the Melo-drama.
"The idea is not to block every shot. The idea is to make your opponent believe that you might block every shot."
- Bill Russell
by Marjun Raposon on Feb 23, 2011 12:07 PM CST up reply actions
he dodged a bullet with that one. no chance melo stays.
i don’t like them trading for williams either. no guarantee he’ll stay.
my folks were always on me to groom myself and wear underpants. what am i, the pope?
True. They actually a gave up A LOT for Williams.
"The idea is not to block every shot. The idea is to make your opponent believe that you might block every shot."
- Bill Russell
by Marjun Raposon on Feb 23, 2011 12:11 PM CST up reply actions
yep, 2 potentially high first rounders
my folks were always on me to groom myself and wear underpants. what am i, the pope?
could it be
that portland/dallas were used as red herring/compressor by NJ to show absolute availability of Harris? [a little farfetched, but still]
Or is this an all-panic move by Jazz for fear of losing Williams for nothing due to CBA/Lockout? (I would be kinda surprised if they traded Williams just for the “sources say he wants to NYK”-thing a few days ago)
"Mais put… Il est fou ce gars!" - French Jesus about Jewish Ice-T
When interviewed recently about his future with the Jazz, Deron answered with something very similar to what Carmelo said about a year ago about the Nuggets.
Fear of losing him? Most probably.
"The idea is not to block every shot. The idea is to make your opponent believe that you might block every shot."
- Bill Russell
by Marjun Raposon on Feb 23, 2011 12:13 PM CST up reply actions
LOL clearly
It’s been speculated that the dude has ties with the Russian mafia so go figure!
by elbow greater than face on Feb 23, 2011 2:33 PM CST up reply actions
rec'd
haha! this is all sorts of win.
you should keep your fanpost breathing (airing). keep adding to it, pretty much like the "undoing’ and the ‘ancestry’ post.
In my speed boat we be speeding... In my sail boat we be sailing... In my tug boat we be tugging... In my pump boat we be pumping... - Urbandub
the West is becoming more lonesome. *crickets*
by pinoyintegrity on Feb 23, 2011 12:10 PM CST reply actions
How long 'til the little general and Williams get into it?
this should be a poll
Yeah. I can see that clashing. Johnson is a good coach though. Brought the Mavericks a 67 win season. 6th best in History, and they started 0-4 that year.
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Yeah right.
He brought a team that wasn’t his to a 67 win season and then crash and burned in the playoffs and was outcoached. When he needed to adjust, he couldn’t and ended up committing the biggest choke job in a while.
He’s had bad relationships with a lot of his star players. There’s just more evidence to say he’s an average coach at best.
And yet we like Rick Carlisle...?
by elbow greater than face on Feb 24, 2011 5:17 PM CST up reply actions
Carlisle is becoming more flexible. evolving?, maybe....
But I think he still believes that he handled Roddy correctly last year.
more like
Cuban doesn’t want to waste more bucks by firing another coach and hiring a new one – so Cuban actually evolved! :-)
In my speed boat we be speeding... In my sail boat we be sailing... In my tug boat we be tugging... In my pump boat we be pumping... - Urbandub
I think RC is a little bit better at adjusting
Give RC some credit, it’s not like the guy is in love with how great of a coach he is to the point where he’s blind. I think he acknowledges he made mistakes last season as proven by their early exit, I believe he has quotes to support that.
Be interesting to see
Now that both guys have been painted as “the bad guy” in a team chemistry regard I wonder who will be shown to be the greater of two evils? Don’t get me wrong, I love Deron, I live right by the University of Illinois and watched his whole college career but it seems like he really might be kind of an asshole. As for Avery I still don’t know what to believe, they say he was a slave driver but I find it hard to fathom the players he had at the time being that much a bunch of crybabies. So now we wait and we watch…
by elbow greater than face on Feb 23, 2011 2:37 PM CST up reply actions
Nets play Spurs on Friday,
here’s to Williams lighting them up.
The poster formally known as Blair Rocket
They traded away Williams so...
They lost a PG, and gained Harris. I am guessing they keep him for now as their new starter. Their back-up is like C.J Miles?
I can't believe
That a tiny post I pulled out of my ass has generated any interest whatsoever.
Ummm….. Thanks?
What's that mean?
you're just being assimilated
Your profile description says that you screw around with stats.
We still need a statsguru on the site.
Go figure.
^^
"Mais put… Il est fou ce gars!" - French Jesus about Jewish Ice-T
better not
he might put up Numbers and Words nobody understands half ALL the time. Not just Words.
Kinda like Arturo.
But let’s make a test:
I can’t believe that a tiny post I pulled out of my ass has generated any interest whatsoever.
Shaq is sueing for infringement.
(If you get the exact reference, you’re hired.)
"Mais put… Il est fou ce gars!" - French Jesus about Jewish Ice-T
eh
you already have an (unpaid) job. want some more?
"Mais put… Il est fou ce gars!" - French Jesus about Jewish Ice-T
yes
we have a winner.
You are now contractually obliged to provide ze stats about all things mavericks and alike in regular occurrences. Very regular occurences.
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I'll do what I can.
If you or anyone else needs something researched. Let me know.
What's that mean?
That's just askin for trouble lol
Way to offer you services though!
by elbow greater than face on Feb 24, 2011 5:18 PM CST up reply actions
it's not so much that we need anything
if you like looking at statistical tendencies around the league, or on the team, put a little something together! doesn’t have to be a novel or a thesis. just some fun number crunching :)
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