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MMB Idol Audition 1: The Tyson Chandler Conundrum

Editor's Note: This is Submission One for our 'New Blogger' Contest. Read it, think about it, comment on it, and enjoy. Submission Two will be posted tomorrow.

I want to preface this by saying I love the job that Donnie Nelson and Mark Cuban have done with this Team. Although most Fans would say that the only reason that Dallas has been as good as they have been is because Dirk=Thor. However this is still a team sport regardless of of the fact that this is a superstar driven League. Which brings us to my post today.

Donnie and Cuban both know that there are some major Changes looming on the Horizon. From the Hardening of the Cap, to even how much Players make, this Lockout is going to bring some major changes. What those changes will be will force Donnie's and Cuban's hand in how they are able to defend our championship. In fact the ONLY thing that I can say for certain is that Dirk will retire as a Maverick. Anything else is simply conjecture at this point. After the Jump lets look at one of the issues that  Dallas is facing, and explore a possibility that may solve it....

Star-divide

Still with me? Good. So lets dive into the Tyson Chandler Conundrum shall we?

 What to do with Tyson Chandler? Now most would say he is Priority #1, once the lockout ends. Frankly I agree with them. But here is the Issue- the Cap...right now Dallas has ~63 million dollars tied up in Salary for the 2011/2012 league year...this is without Tyson Chandler, Caron Butler, Deshawn Stevenson, and JJ Berea. Now most experts agree that when the league gets this figured out we will probably see a hard cap set at ~50-55 million. that means that at best Dallas will be roughly 8 million over the cap. Now I am sure that there will be some sort of "amnesty clause" built into the new CBA that will allow the teams to get under the cap, either by restructuring deals or releasing players. So what does this have to do with Tyson? Everything. With Dallas so far over the Cap there is only one player that could be "released" that would enable Dallas to get far enough under the cap to resign Chandler. Dirk Nowtizki. At 19 million+ he will be taking up almost HALF of the available cap space. but lets face it, That will NEVER happen. IF Dallas were to Release Dirk, the year after Finally winning the Championship, well lets not go there.

So what to do? There is one thing....a trade. Now the rules will be different with the new CBA I am sure, but they shouldn't be too different. So what team A) has a player about to hit Free agency within the next couple of years, B)is way over the cap, and C) has shown that they are incapable of building a championship team, and D) is mired in so much debt that they are considered one of the least valuable franchises, even though they are perennial Championship contenders? If you guess the Hornets, then you while close and they do match up with the Criteria, I am talking about the Orlando Magic, and more specifically Dwight Howard. Currently the Magic have one of the highest payrolls in the league @ ~90 million. So what Do I propose? This or This. Now I know what you are saying. But Why would Orlando do this? For a couple of  reasons:

#1) Money. if you take out Terry(who is the only player that will not be a Free agent this coming year) Orlando will save 29 million dollars. Once Terry's Contract expires, that number jumps up to 40 million. But that is assuming that Orlando doesn't sign any of them. Now I feel certain that Tyson would be signed, and probably at some where around 14 million per year. which brings their net savings down to ~30 million which puts them at a payroll of ~44 million...well under the new cap limit. As far as the second scenario goes, the Moneyy saved is a lot less(only around 8 million the first year. However once Terry and Kidd "fall off" that right there would bring Orlando under the cap, while leaving them with a capable Center in Haywood and a Defensive All-star, that can match up with the Lebron James', and Carmelo Anthony's of the Eastern Conference.

#2) Getting something in return. Having  already stated that he won't be exercising his player option,  Dwight could leave Orlando as a FA in 2012 and the Magic get nothing for him in return. At least this way not only do they get out from under Arenas and Hedo's Contracts(which were bad moves to begin with, but that is neither here nor there), but they can say that they got a Championship Winning player in Tyson Chandler, who will be cheaper than Dwight, although Tyson is nowhere near the Offensive threat that Howard is. Plus I imagine that Cash, Picks and probably Ian Mahinmi would be involved....

As far as the second Scenario goes, That I put up just in case We are unable to trade FA's prior to the Season beginning, Which we could have if the owners and players had gotten an agreement done(site decorum Lockout)....Just sub in The respective players into the various reasons....I will say this though, the second trade is far less likely to happen due to the contracts involved....However, the players do represent an upgrade (except for Howard for Haywood...but still) Tery+Kidd> Arenas and Marion>Turkoglu....Brewer/Fernadez would have to get traded to "make the money work" so to speak....

Now bear in mind that all of this is based off of the last CBA(which no longer exists) so all of this may be moot....

So why should Dallas do this? Two words: Dwight Howard. Without a doubt one of the most dominant players in the league right now. Just look at his line: Averages 18 pts per game, on 57% shooting from the field, has avged 14 reb per game, and has averaged 2 blocks per game. Now I will say this..Dwight is very inconsistent at the FT line, having averaged just under 60% on 9 attempts per game. Well 60 % isn't too bad, and it wouldn't be if that is what you got...the main issue is that one game Dwight will hit 90-100% of his FT's then turn around the next game and brick 90% of them...But you know what? I could live with that....and Bear in Mind Dwight is only 26 years old....so not only would Dallas be getting the ultimate compliment for Dirk, but would also be setting themselves up for LAD(Life after Dirk). and for the next few years Dallas would have arguably the Best Duo in the league...and as much has this is a moving to a Wing driven League, Dallas Winning the Championship showed one thing....You have to have a "post presence" to win....Getting Dwight would not only ease that burden off Dirk, but possibly extend his Career, while again setting Dallas up for L.A.D.

Now lets talk about Arenas and Hedo. Both are grossly over paid. Arenas is due 19 million and Hedo is due 11 million. Which wouldn't be so bad except that Arenas has a Player option worth up to 42 million over two years, and Hedo has up to 3 years worth up to 33million, with the Final (third year) being a player option(worth 12 million). Both are actually worse than the players that we would be giving up(click here), (and here for second trade) but there is a ray of Hope...What if Dallas brought them in and convinced them to not take their options? That would mean that Dallas would get Howard, and be able to  remove up to 30+ million off the books within two years. Now I imagine that to get that concession Cuban would have to basically guarantee them "extensions". but as long as they were with in reason(no more than the current MLE combined) I think Dallas could Swing that....Plus Gilbert and Hedo both would Fill voids in the Backup PG role(Arenas) and depth at SF(Turkoglu). 

Arenas put up numbers similar to JJ Berea, so that would be a direct swap, plus(though I have no stats to back this up, only common sense), Arenas should be less of a defensive black hole than JJ... Hedo is sort of the Anti Marion- will capable of putting up decent Numbers, won't be all that great Defensively.....

And Remember the Amnesty Clause? IF there is one, there are two perfect candidates for it in Arenas and Turkoglu....

Now just to be Clear: I am not advocating Trading Tyson Chandler. I would Love to resign him. However if the Opportunity were to came up to do this trade....If I was Donnie I wouldn't hesitate...Because it's Dwight Freaking Howard.

As Always I welcome any Comments or Critiques, so feel free to debate....Just know that I will defend my position, but look forward to hearing your thoughts.....

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Howard is cleary an improvement over Chandler

but if I was Donnie I would invest my time on making a push for Chris Paul rather than for Howard.JKidd is almost done and Paul+Chandler have worked great together in New Orleans.Also Tyson has proved to be a great locker room guy and as much as Howard is a great player,we can not certainly say that the team chemistry will be better or as much good with him, like was with Chandler this year.

by Fjodor on Jul 18, 2011 9:54 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Why not both Paul and Howard?

LOL.

I'm reading this because it's interesting.

by entropy13 on Jul 18, 2011 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

not going to Happen...

for one why would "Nawlins get rid of Paul(and not Okafor) and take on an even worse contract in Arenas?

A better Idea would be this: (click here)

Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

by I am Ironman!!! on Jul 18, 2011 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hell yeah!

throw in the mix this asian chick too! lol

by Fjodor on Jul 18, 2011 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice job, but here's my constructive criticism

I found the odd capitalization of words to be a bit off-putting.

I hate the NBA trade machine, but your use of it was certainly somewhat more realistic than others I’ve seen.

I feel like maybe you figured out your final assertion in the process of writing the article…it came off a bit rambling to me.

I think a lot of readers will be predisposed negatively toward any offseason article about bringing in Dwight Howard. Not arguing the merits, but it may seem unrealistic.

Generally, I enjoyed the post, and I think your writing style and arguments would improve with repetition. I don’t mean to be overly negative, and I imagine this type of audition could be a bit daunting. Regardless of outcomes, I certainly encourage you to keep writing.

by Jim America on Jul 18, 2011 10:47 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Also, trust me

you do not want Gilbert Arenas.

by Jim America on Jul 18, 2011 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

you WOULD criticize

criticizer

Managing Editor of MavsMoneyball.com

by LJRotter on Jul 18, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Indubitably

Unless the post relies heavily on pop culture references from 1988-1996 or explains why the Bullets are clearly on a 3 year path to a championship, then it is garbage.

Pssst…your irony is showing.

by Jim America on Jul 18, 2011 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'll have to cover up more next time

how dare I expose myself to my readers

Managing Editor of MavsMoneyball.com

by LJRotter on Jul 18, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

In response JA...
I found the odd capitalization of words to be a bit off-putting.

1. Sorry about the capitalization…I tend to get ‘Shift key happy"…am working on it….

I hate the NBA trade machine, but your use of it was certainly somewhat more realistic than others I’ve seen.

2. I use the trade machine for one reason. It is based off the actual NBA trade rules…this way the trades that are imputed Actually work in real life…no JJ Berea for Chris Paul trades…
I feel like maybe you figured out your final assertion in the process of writing the article…it came off a bit rambling to me.

3. in a sense that is true…and will probably be the hardest thing for me to “work on”…Mostly do to the way I write…I am (what I call it at least) a Stream of Consciousness type writer…I tend to have issues getting started(I went through three different topics before I settled on this one) but once started I usually finished in the same sitting..and if I don’t I probably won’t ever finish…So there is that…

That said I do appreciate the critique…I am always wanting to improve, so any advice is helpful…

Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

by I am Ironman!!! on Jul 18, 2011 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

These all make sense

I appreciate your ability to take my comments in the manner in which they were intended. I tend to write in the same stream of consciousness type of way…so I can certainly understand that.

by Jim America on Jul 18, 2011 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

This would be a dream trade but...

giving away Terry and Kidd is a bad idea, especially after a championship season. I know they are old guys who can’t bring it every night and Howard is a beast (Arenas? Turkoglu? Seriously?) but I think you are underestimating something that they call team chemistry. A recent example? The Celtics.

"The idea is not to block every shot. The idea is to make your opponent believe that you might block every shot."

- Bill Russell

by Marjun Raposon on Jul 18, 2011 11:01 AM CDT reply actions  

true Marjun

I take it you are talking about the second trade?…As I pointed out, in a normal year there would be a period where our FA’s would be available for trade…thus we could have traded them to the Magic getting basically Direct(albeit more expensive) replacements…Since I am not sure If that will be allowed once the CBA is signed I would Offer up the Second trade…..NOw I know that it would mess with the “chemistry” however…

basically we would be exchanging Berea for Arenas, (Roddy/Dominique/Calenthas) would become the starting PG….win

we would be exchanging The Haywood/ Chandler dou for Howard…WIn..

We would alleviate some of the “backlog” at the SG/position as Fernandez could be included instead of Brewer and allowing Brewer to start at SF…

SO you could have this Lineup:
PG-Roddy/Dojo
SG Dojo/Roddy
I am not sure how this will play out…though if it were me making the Decision Dojo would be PG with Roddy at SG…
SF- Brewer
PF- Dirk
C- Howard

Backups would be
PG Arenas
SG-Arenas/Turkoglu
SF-Turk
PF-Mahinmi
C- Mahinmi

Not this is assuming that we don’t figure out a way to resign anyone…..

Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

by I am Ironman!!! on Jul 18, 2011 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

So you want to take away all experience we have from one of the most important positions to have experience in? A championship team doesn’t have DoJo starting at PG or Roddy when both haven’t shown they can run an offense. (Don’t even mention Arenas)

by Why on Jul 18, 2011 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

this roster is good enough

to compete for the team who has the worst guards in the league.Watching Roddy and DoJo share the PG and SG can be very painful and Dirk would certainly get his first grey hairs.Then you have Brewer starting at SF, who is more like a overgrown guard, and hasn’t proved yet to be worth a starting spot in a good team.Then you have just one big man, the freaking Mahinmi to backup BOTH Dirk and Dwight?! With a roster like that,I see things getting really ugly for the Mavs

by Fjodor on Jul 18, 2011 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

THIS

"The idea is not to block every shot. The idea is to make your opponent believe that you might block every shot."

- Bill Russell

by Marjun Raposon on Jul 19, 2011 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

ok seriously, I'll give some feedback later.

just got back from work, about to head out again.

by Tim Cato on Jul 18, 2011 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

np tcat

looking forward to it!!!

Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

by I am Ironman!!! on Jul 18, 2011 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

hey y'all

you don’t have to give feedback on the post. you’ll get to vote this weekend. discuss meant discuss the article’s topic! but if you feel the need to talk about the writing itself, I can’t stop you.

Managing Editor of MavsMoneyball.com

by LJRotter on Jul 18, 2011 2:03 PM CDT reply actions  

That's right

I’m the asshole! I’m the asshole!

by Jim America on Jul 18, 2011 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

YOU ARE

but so is Tcat, and he works here.

Managing Editor of MavsMoneyball.com

by LJRotter on Jul 18, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now the ethical conundrum

Do I rip everyone a new Lebron to even things out, or do I rely on the fact that no one gives a shit what I think and shut my yapper?

by Jim America on Jul 18, 2011 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Thanks

hon? Mom? I can’t tell

by Jim America on Jul 18, 2011 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh jeez.

Managing Editor of MavsMoneyball.com

by LJRotter on Jul 18, 2011 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Without

dinky shots, you don’t get the whole picture about the writer anyway. Can’t wait for Honky Dong!

I doubt Howard signs an extension with a team that trades for him this year, unless it’s a championship-calibre one. He knows that if he becomes a FA after ‘11-’12 there’ll be a lot of playoff-quality teams like DEN, BOS, LAC that will have tons and tons of cap space that offseason with which to be able to afford him, so he’ll have tons of leverage to demand a huge contract as a FA rather than settle for an extension.

I also doubt an offer involving Chandler is as competitve as say LAL offering Bynum + some guy or NJ offering a package centered around young Brook Lopez. LAL extends their championship window with Bryant getting older and NJ goes into their new arena with a pair of studs in Williams and Howard. These teams among others will have as much if not more incentive than DAL to go for Howard.

"I'm a unitard!" - Ralph Wiggum

by stupidsexyflanders on Jul 18, 2011 4:06 PM CDT reply actions  

yet none of those teams

Are the Current world Champions….Plus If I am LA I am trading Kobe before I trade Bynum…but that just me…

Williams is just as unlikely to resign as Howard(they will be free agents at the same time too BTW)…

And if I am Howard…what other team other than Dallas not only would be a legitimate contender now, and has the pieces in place to contend for many years? Maybe LA…that is about it…and there he would have to deal with Kobe+Gasol…where in Dallas there is only Dirk…who has repeatedly shown he is willing to work with other players..(ie pass the Ball)….
not only that but by trading Kidd and Terry(both who expire) Orlando could buy them out thus making them FA’s thus able to resign with Dallas…for much more cap friendly deals….

Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

by I am Ironman!!! on Jul 18, 2011 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Williams and Howard are unlikely to sign with their current teams

but they can sign with a team together or with one signing into the other’s team (Nets, but they have to deal Brooks out). Do not underestimate the fad that Miami’s Big Three brought to this league.

"The idea is not to block every shot. The idea is to make your opponent believe that you might block every shot."

- Bill Russell

by Marjun Raposon on Jul 19, 2011 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Those trades don't seem realistic

For the simple reason, they could get better in a different type of trade. If they were to trade their franchise player/highly paid role players, they would either want equal talent to contend for a championship or save some money, but more importantly obtain players for the future.

I think they could easily get a better package with young players and more draft picks.

by Why on Jul 18, 2011 7:24 PM CDT reply actions  

the thing is

Arenas and Hedo are Horribly overpaid…I am talking Rasheed Lewis, Kenyon Martin, bad….My stance would be this;

Either we give you young players, or we take the contracts….not both….I choose with this trade to take the Contracts…We could do something like this… HOwever if I am Dallas I am not taking those contracts AND giving up a bunch of young players…Ian Mahinmi could be included though regardless….

Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? No, but I have a contract hit out on the guy that is....

by I am Ironman!!! on Jul 19, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

as much as i want it to happen..that trade wouldn’t go down..

I may not be able to defend...but i'm the baddest shooter ever

by emptygiddy on Jul 19, 2011 3:15 PM CDT reply actions  

What the heck ya'll?

116 votes…33 comments…seriously speak up! We don’t bite…hard at least

Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? No, but I have a contract hit out on the guy that is....

by I am Ironman!!! on Jul 19, 2011 10:19 PM CDT reply actions  

give the current line-up the chance to defend the Precious Ring.

I, thank you.

HOPE is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of men.

by simpleton cxi on Jul 20, 2011 4:29 AM CDT reply actions  

Should have reviewed the trade rules

Since this is an audition piece, I will provide criticisms on execution as well as comment on the content. First, I recommend that you learn to spell the names of the players you write about, particularly the Mavs players. You can find the rosters on several websites. Second, I think that grammar and spelling mistakes show laziness and a lack of respect for the readers; I wish you had taken the time to proofread this before posting it.

Regarding the trade for Howard: you do realize that Tyson Chandler (and three other players involved in your trade scenario #1) is a free agent, right? The Mavs cannot trade Chandler, as he is no longer under contract with Dallas. That’s the idea of free agency. If you meant to imply a sign-and-trade scenario, it would have been good to mention it. By the way, I doubt the sign-and-trade rule makes it into the new CBA (and I think this is a good thing).

Why would Chandler (or any agree to this? Again, the only way he gets traded is if he agrees to a sign-and-trade. I won’t discuss here, but I think you should have in your post.

How do you expect people to take you seriously when you talk about convincing Arenas and Hedo not to take their options? They have no chance of making that money on a new contract. Their agents will never allow that to happen.

Lastly, you propose trades in which we give away players who are very good to team chemistry and take back two guys in Arenas and Hedo who are on the complete opposite end of the spectrum. Hedo just looks like he has stopped caring, and Agent Zero’s reputation speaks for itself. In fact, you would be replacing Chandler’s vocal and assertive leadership with Dwight’s locker room buffoonery.

I am not saying Dwight is not better than Tyson, just that the scenarios presented aren’t feasible. Perhaps you should take another stab at it in a three-team scenario or get creative some other way.

by drz on Jul 23, 2011 2:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Ok...first off

Thank you for the comment….now to the meat of your “critique”….

first this:

Should have reviewed the trade rules
Since this is an audition piece, I will provide criticisms on execution as well as comment on the content. First, I recommend that you learn to spell the names of the players you write about, particularly the Mavs players. You can find the rosters on several websites. Second, I think that grammar and spelling mistakes show laziness and a lack of respect for the readers; I wish you had taken the time to proofread this before posting it.

as far as reviewing the trade rules, that is the reason I used the “Trade Machine” as it is based off the rules and regulations regarding trades in the NBA….
As far as the grammar and spelling mistakes IF you wish to point them out I will be more than happy to correct them…
And as far as proofreading it I did, for about a week…you can ask LJ, I had the “rough draft” done up within the first day upon learning that I was selected….I then spent the next few days “tweaking” and Checking spelling and Grammer…again I apologize for any that I may have missed….

Regarding the trade for Howard: you do realize that Tyson Chandler (and three other players involved in your trade scenario #1) is a free agent, right? The Mavs cannot trade Chandler, as he is no longer under contract with Dallas. That’s the idea of free agency. If you meant to imply a sign-and-trade scenario, it would have been good to mention it. By the way, I doubt the sign-and-trade rule makes it into the new CBA (and I think this is a good thing).

I did actually notice that, and if you didn’t notice I did offer a secondary trade that did not involve any free agents….I also know that had this been a normal year Dallas would have had a short window in which they could trade their FA’s….as most FA’s don’t officially become that until I think July 1st, though that may be wrong….

How do you expect people to take you seriously when you talk about convincing Arenas and Hedo not to take their options? They have no chance of making that money on a new contract. Their agents will never allow that to happen.

I offered that based on the assumption that teams may be able to release players to “get under the cap”…if that was the case and Cuban came to you and said, “Unless you agree to not take your options we will have to release you, however I will be willing to grant you an extentsion that reworks your deal, but enables you to continue playing here”… if you are Arenas/Hedo, knowing that you wont find not only a great team like Dallas’, but one that is willing to pay you more than the Veterans minimum, wouldn’t you take Cuban’s deal?

Lastly, you propose trades in which we give away players who are very good to team chemistry and take back two guys in Arenas and Hedo who are on the complete opposite end of the spectrum. Hedo just looks like he has stopped caring, and Agent Zero’s reputation speaks for itself. In fact, you would be replacing Chandler’s vocal and assertive leadership with Dwight’s locker room buffoonery.

As I said in my post, I am not advocating this at all, but am merely putting this out as a Possible option…..which is why my poll asked “is Dwight Howard worth IT”… “IT” being not only losing several key pieces, but taking on two players that may or may not be the best fit here in Dallas….and considering that 60% of the votes were “Yes” I would have to say that most agree with me….

That being said I do appreciate the Critique…..it is always good to get feedback regardless if it is negative or positive….

Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? No, but I have a contract hit out on the guy that is....

by I am Ironman!!! on Jul 25, 2011 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for taking time to reply

Seriously, I appreciate that you took the time to reply.

The main confusion is with the rules regarding the trade of players at the end of their contract and or at the end of the season. The last chance a team has to trade a player in the last year of his contract is the at trade deadline. After that, players can be traded by their teams after the end of their season (as soon as the playoffs start for lottery teams, as soon as playoff teams are eliminated, and as soon as the Finals are over for both conference champions), but only if they will be under contract the following season. In fact, if a player has an early termination option, that player cannot be traded until after the deadline to exercise the option passes. For example, Omri Casspi and a future first-round pick were tarded from Sacramento to Cleveland in for J.J. Hickson on June 30, just a few hours before the start of the lockout. Both Casspi and Hickson are under contract for next season.

The ESPN.com trade machine is not very useful during the offseason because it does not know how to deal with free agents. This is what misled you. When playing with the trade machine before it is updated for the following season, you have to self-police and track free agents (and who knows what else is off during this time). The main trade machine button should have a caption that reads “Try this trade… at your own risk.”

If Cuban told Hedo and Arenas, “I can release you, or bring you back at about the MLE for a couple of more years if you opt out,” they each would tell him to go ahead and release them, as their contracts are guaranteed and would be owed all the money without having to play a single minute. Assuming there is an amnesty clause similar to that of the last CBA, this would help the Mavs lower their cap number. If, like in 1999, the clause applies to only one contract, then one of the two (probably Hedo, since his contract is larger) would still be counted against the cap. Richard Jefferson walked away from $15M guaranteed to sign a contract for $40M guaranteed. This is very different from Hedo and Arenas walking away from $62M and $34M guaranteed over three years to sign for around $24M each over four years (which is very likely the max allowed in the new CBA).

I am not saying that getting Dwight isn’t a good idea. I am saying that the main trade you propose is not possible under the current CBA (or for that matter any CBA since free agency was instituted, including the next one — whenever that comes) because free agents cannot be traded. The second trade makes us strong at the starting 4 and 5, mediocre at the wing positions, and pathetic at the point and bench (and with no cap room or trade chips to fix this), but would indeed be within the rules of the current CBA.

By the way, I want to point out that in my opinion, if Tyson walks away, I definitely think Dwight is the #1 trade target that should be pursued. I don’t doubt for a second that a trade with Dwight and Haywood as the centerpieces will be discussed if it hasn’t already. Ironing out the details is what will be really hard.

All in all, we all just want our Mavs to contend (we really want to feel the joy of winning it all again), and it is good to be thinking of ways of doing exactly that.

by drz on Jul 26, 2011 12:57 AM CDT reply actions  

well I have always liked a good debate....

so thanks…I see where you are coming from and you are right…..I always forget that contracts are pretty much fully guaranteed in the NBA….

Here’s a theoretical play from last year: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

Am I the most optimistic Cowboys fan in the World? No, but I have a contract hit out on the guy that is....

by I am Ironman!!! on Jul 26, 2011 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

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