People I Don't Like: Mavs Edition
It’s not time for panic in D-Town just because how the Mavs are playing right now might have literally nothing to do with how they’ll play in a couple of months. As long as they remain in playoffs range, things don’t matter all that much. You have to beat the best to win a championship and it doesn’t’ much matter if that starts at round one.
That being said, 15 games in, we’re almost a quarter done with the season and I have had it more than up to here with these three characters:
1) Dismal-Shooting Dirk. I can’t stand it, I really can’t. Dirk rising up to hit an open shot was more or less the one thing I counted on in this veil of tears. He’s not. Not even close. I can’t stand everything about it. If the Mavs had had a real training camp, if the owners hadn’t been so greedy for more gate receipts, this wouldn’t be happening but they were, and now I have to watch my favorite athlete of all time look like a worse Ryan Andersoni. He can’t trust his jumper, and I’ve got news for you folks: a Dirk who can’t shoot that well? That is not a good look.
Dirk is currently behind such power forwards as Al Jefferson, Bargnani, Aldirdge, Griffin, Millsap, Love—and oh yeah, Ryan Anderson—in PER. He’s scored over 20 points once in the last 8 games. It just can’t be like this. It’ll be the worst Mavs season ever.
I’m betting he’s injured in some way we don’t know enough about, but he might just be tired from too many games and not enough offseason or training camp. Either way, get him some steroids, sit him for a week, make him a hammock on the side of the court for when he’s not playing, or whatever the heck else, because this is the single biggest problem in the Mavericks future.
Anybody can have a bad stretch. But he hasn’t looked right, and I can’t take it. In a season when Kobe goes to Germany and gets some crazy knee surgery that makes him feel up to shooting 45 shots a game, and our Mavs are supposed to be defending their title, I can’t have our personal GOAT averaging less than 20.
2) Weird Rotations Rick:
Dear Rick Carlisle,
I know that apparently Roddy Beaubois taking dumb shots is apparently the worst thing that’s happened n this country since the Depression, but I also have news for YOU. Which is that if you’re a particular fan of needing two last minute Terry threes to get CLOSE to 90 against the 20th ranked defense in the NBA, you may want to consider whether the juice might just be worth a little more than the squeeze.
You’ll note also that as great as the Lakers defense IS, 5th in the league, their points allowed average is actually "89.4" not "70", as one might think from a few nights ago.
Playing young players is not the worst thing in the world. Both Rudy Fernandez and Corey Brewer are scoring over 8 points a game for the Denver Nuggets. A team, by the way , that is somehow 10 and 5 despite George Karl’s carelessness in allowing youth to be served. Roddy Beaubois is scoring 5.3. If we didn’t think he could do what they do, we probably should have gotten rid of him and kept them.
Instead, this might have something to do with the fact that he played 0 minutes against the Lakers, 6 against the Clippers, 9 against Boston, or 1 against OKC. If I were Roddy, I would be demanding a trade. A kid with his talent, who can’t get a minute in an important game in his third year? He must think you’re his father to need to please you so bad and not complain about never getting a chance. He's older than Kevin Durant, incidentally.
But if not him, what about Brandan Wright? Yes, 1-6 in his last outing, in a blowout against Sacto, but he did grab 4 rebounds in 8 minutes. He was 2-2 against Milwaukee. 4-5 against Detroit. 2-2 against New Orleans. 3-3 against San Antonio. In other words, in his 33 minutes before the Sacto game, he was 11-12, for 27 points, grabbed 10 boards and blocked 4 shots while committing exactly one foul.
What, for that matter, about poor Sean Williams, who did nothing more than make 5 of 7 shots and grab 6 rebounds in around 16 minutes of play? Basketball-reference.com says he only blocked one shot, but you and I know that’s not true.
What about even you relatively veteran guys, your Delonte Wests who scored 17 points in his TWENTY FIVE minutes tonight, got 18 minutes the night before, 22 the night before, and besides a 34 minute outing against Boston has topped 25 minutes exactly twice?
The players who played the most minutes for the Mavs against the Clips were Kidd-Terry-Marion-Dirk-Haywood. They scored 52 points. The fivesome of Mo Williams (MO WILLIAMS)-Billups-Butler-Griffin-Jordan scored 82 even with just 2 from Caron (great job Matrix). This is not some coincidence. The Mavs offense came in looking like something that you’d put in the litter-box and shovel over, and it left looking like something you’d put in the litter-box and shovel over.
Try the kids, Rick. Yeah, maybe the other guys will score more. But come on.
And by the way, if you give Roddy the chance to shoot HALF the number of bad shots that Barea did when he was here, I think he’ll really get the chance to show us what it’s going to be.
3) Last-Second Larrys
That’s three the Mavs have lost on a last-second shot. You’re all mathematicians enough to know that that’s the difference between 8-7 and 11-4 which would, incidentally, be second place in the West.
You know what’s an underreported factor in all three of those shots? In all three of them, the Mavs made a really improbable comeback to put themselves in a position to lose on a last second shot anyway.
In Oklahoma it was a Jason Terry three with 39 seconds left, followed by a missed Durant shot, TWO missed Ibaka free throws, and a Carter 3 with 1 second left to have the privilege of losing on a 30-footer.
Against the Lakers, it was literally three O-boards followed by a Mahinmni tip in to bring the deficit down to 3 points, Jason Kidd stealing the ball from and getting fouled by Matt Barnes and making one free throw, Kobe missing and Terry making a floater to tie it up with 9 seconds left, then Fisher’s shot.
Against the Clips, it was allowing a Griffin layup to push it to 5 with 1:29 left, making a three off a Shawn Marion steal with 36 seconds left , losing a tip to DeAndre Jordan but having a very close call on the sidelines give the ball back to the Mavs followed by another Terry three, to lose by that Billups shot.
It may not have made a difference in reality, but I just can’t help but feel that if all three of those teams hadn’t had reason to feel like they had the game one with a minute left, they might not have won it with a second left.
You know what that comes down to?
Having scored more than 83 points with 36 seconds left in the Clippers game. Having scored more than 68 with 1:12 left in the Lakers game. Does anyone think those things couldn’t happen if we did some things around here to maximize scoring?
As clutch as the Mavs are, and if anyone thinks those Terry threes, or that Carter three, or that Terry floater don’t remain clutch just because there was a shot that occurred after them, spotting the opponents leads with a minute to go is not a good way to win friends and influence people.
Friends, I’m a guy who writes things on the internet. No basketball team of any kind at any level has ever asked me to coach, GM, or even attend a game. I just watch the game and I love it. All I’m writing to suggest is this: the Mavs rotations so far seem to me to be motivated by what we EXPECT players to be doing. With 25% of the season near gone, and them not doing it, we might want to revise what we do—even if, as we all know, our success this season will ultimately depend on whether we can get the ones we expect to get it right by playoff time.
Just a man with a keyboard, saying a thing.
That thing is, find a way to score more points.
It's also: you're wasting one of the Mavs' greatest strengths, bench depth, if you're afraid to use it when games matter.
It's also FREE THE YOUNG GUYS, RICK.
Just a thing.
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Hear, hear
Couldn’t agree more. West and Mahinmi are the only core players bringing energy to our game, except for Terry at times and Carter occasionally giving us a flashback. Roddy, Wright and Williams have all demonstrated their potential to give us the shot in the arm we need only to be consigned to the end of the pine.
The old guys, love them to death, but they look laconic out there. I don’t think they’re keeping up with the pace of the schedule well at all. I understand Carlisle would want that group out there in clutch time – they have been proven time and time again. but the scoring and energy potential from playing the younger guys earlier in the game could put us in the situation where we might not need as much clutch play because we would already be ahead. I’d like to see some more Delonte-Roddy-Marion-Dirk-Mahinmi lineups.
I think I meant "catatonic"
Not “laconic”.
by lemonbrigade on Jan 19, 2012 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
Agree with all of this.
UNLEASH THE BEAST THE YOUNG GUYS!
"The idea is not to block every shot. The idea is to make your opponent believe that you might block every shot."
- Bill Russell
by Marjun Raposon on Jan 19, 2012 11:45 AM CST reply actions
you know I mentioned this in to Karim
why did we bring all these players in?….I honestly don’t understand why they would bring in all these older players, when you have these yonger players that have already been in the system, and thus mitigate the effects of not having a training camp….
lets look at one instance in Carter vs Corey Brewer
Vince Carter: 6’6" 220 age 34
Per game Averages:
21 min, 9.5 points (.417/.444/.750) 2.7 reb 2.1 ast 0.4stl 0.8 blks
Corey Brewer: 6’ 9" 188lbs age 25
Per game Averages
14.8 min, 8.4pot (.522/.647/.667) 2.0reb 0.6ast 0.4stl 0.9blk
Contracted at 3 year ~3million per year(*both players)
Really Dallas? the same price but older AND having to learn a new system? Really? and that doesn’t even factor in to Rudy Fernadez(who we gave up a first round pick for, and got a second round pick in return for both players)
I mean that says it all..I don’t even have to mention the other strange signings(why bring in two young players on “get right contracts” if you aren’t going to play them so that they at least could accrue some trade value…..smh
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Jan 19, 2012 11:55 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
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I first this was a post against those of us expressing a certain degree of pessimism with the team’s performance like I did today in the game thread.
People say the defense is doing great, so there is very little to worry. My point is this: How can we be sure that the intensity of the schedule isn’t skewing the defensive numbers? Come playoff time, when the teams are well rested – will our defense hold up???
Agree completely with the last second shots.
I don’t buy Carlisle’s rotations one bit. Not only is this going to affect the development of our future players but there is also a danger. Jet’s and the other vets’ awesome shooting panned out last playoffs. When Dirk passed out of the double team – shots went in. The pick and roll worked because JJ of all people could get to the rim and his tear drops went in.
Does Carlisle not remember what happened in the years before that? I bet LJ does :P Free the young ones, show them some love!!!
Think Roddy will stick around/ resign if this continues??? We are not even really sure of his potential as of date. 3 fucking years. Why play him at the point when he was so explosive at the 2? Why do you have a Delonte if not for a backup PG?
Dirk is not 100% healthy, but he asys its better then it was or will be
http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/7478926/dallas-mavericks-dirk-nowitzki-battling-knee-issues
“It’s OK, better than it was three weeks ago, so that’s very good,” Nowitzki said. “But, it’s still just stiff and I can’t move the way I want to, but it will be OK. I’m going to keep on working, get a stronger base, get my legs strong where they were in June and hopefully I’ll be back to my normal self.”
This just sucks. My heart can't take anymore of this heartbreak.
I thought for sure that Coach Rick will give our youngsters more minutes since VC is out, but instead he just gave our vets more minutes. What the hell is Coach Rick thinking? We boast about how deep our bench is but we don’t even use that advantage.
I’m not used to seeing Dirk playing like this. It just hurts to know that your superstar is in a rut that he can’t seem to shake off. I think losing by a clutch three is even worse than being blown out. I look at this team and I see so much potential and I know that they could have won that game. It’s just such a waste. Is our defense really as bad as everyone says? I was so sure it wasn’t but now, everything is so confusing.
I really hope we can forget about this soon.
I've been ready to burn Rick in effigy for a while now
but almost everyone else is defending him to hell and back. If I were a young role player with any potential/talent I’d refuse to play for Dallas. It’s outright ridiculous and there’s no reason. We all saw the playoff game when Brewer carved the Lakers up like a Thanksgiving turkey and then he played almost none the rest of the post-season. I mean age can be great, I’d play Kidd as the starting PG until the end of time and Dirks shooting will probably remain timeless but many players (cough cough Vince Carter) don’t age so well. I really think Ricks hard-on for playing the vets big minutes will be the death of us. We didn’t help it when we let Brewer, Barea, Butler, Chandler and Rudy Fernandez walk then we scoop Vinsanity.
This is bullshit. Sure he’s a great X’s and O’s guy drawing up plays but if you put people on the floor who can’t execute it means fuck-all. We fired Avery for less…
by elbow greater than face on Jan 19, 2012 9:36 PM CST up reply actions
Icing on the cake
We lose two games, jump 3 positions in the Hollinger Power Rankings. http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerrankings
We’re now #5 in the league.
As I thought last year when Miami remained #1 despite having a mediocre playing record, probably something wrong with his methodology.
Especially as
as of right now, we wouldn’t even make the playoffs in the West.
by lemonbrigade on Jan 19, 2012 4:35 PM CST up reply actions
NEWS FLASH:
Hollinger is an idiot and his rankings are completely nonsensical.
by elbow greater than face on Jan 19, 2012 9:38 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't think
your record is necessarily an indication of how good you are. It’s possible to be improved and it not showing in the win column given how a lot of teams in the West have gotten a lot tougher (OKC and UT with age, LAC with new acquisitions, etc.) too. We know we have the talent and depth to be competitive on a daily basis with the best teams and the playoffs aren’t out of the question.
"I'm a unitard!" - Ralph Wiggum
by stupidsexyflanders on Jan 19, 2012 5:03 PM CST reply actions
Absolutely true
Rick needs to let the young guys play. Letting Brian Cardinal get any minutes is a sin when you have Wright on the bench. And perhaps nobody has been hurting the team more this year than Jason Kidd, who is still getting more minutes than a far superior (this year) Delonte West. It’s always been Rick’s biggest flaw that he hates youngsters, and it’s really going to hurt us this year.
I'm still not panicking ....
….I said the first weeks of February and I’m sticking to it. Dirk is not performing at his expected level because he laid off the drills that keep his legs strong. It’s gonna take time to get that leg strength back.
The rest of it…sure, I might be in disappointed mode, but we’re gonna be fine. Trust me! ;-)
Good job, Robot
Let Roddy play 18 minutes, he gets 17 points. Voila! We at Mavs Moneyball are visionaries.

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