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Rodrigue Beaubois Could Be On NBA Trade Block

(SB Nation Dallas, Jonathan Tjarks) According to a report from ESPN.com's Chris Broussard, the Dallas Mavericks may be interested in moving Rodrigue Beaubois, the team's promising but inconsistent young PG, before the NBA trade deadline:

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Sources say Dallas is about ready to move on from the Roddy Beaubois experiment. The Mavericks have thought for years that the talented young Frenchman could be another Tony Parker, but he has not been able to master the move from shooting guard to point guard. Nor has he been able to fill the void left by J.J. Barea. If they don't move him before this year's deadline, he could be gone over the summer.

In his third year in the NBA, Beaubois has flashed signs of greatness but has been unable to carve out a consistent spot in the team's rotation due to the presence of veterans like Jason Kidd, Jason Terry, Delonte West and Vince Carter.

His per-36 minutes have slipped for the second consecutive season and the 6'3 180 guard has the lowest shooting percentage of his career (41%) this year.

He's currently away from the team while mourning the unexpected passing of his father last week.

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I would be surprised if they moved him by the deadline

The injury of Delonte has put uncertainty into the guard rotation and his recovery and the Mavs assessment of that process will highly influence any decision. Unless they get a reliable replacement on an expiring back in a trade, which seems unlikely, I don’t see it.

Roddy is averaging career highs in any category despite scoring, which reflects his adjustment of playing the point and as of now, I feel a lot better playing him over DoJo.

An exit over the summer is no big news, because we all know that is necessary to get both Deron and Dwight.

by j0Shi on Feb 21, 2012 11:21 AM CST reply actions  

Roddy is not being traded

unless its for nash or Dwight or Dwill..dumb article lol

by ray allen a mav on Feb 21, 2012 12:38 PM CST reply actions  

Right, because he's of equal value to them..

Wait, he’s not.

Dallas and Houston fan making it work. Gig 'em!

by OJ ATM on Feb 21, 2012 2:23 PM CST up reply actions  

that's not the point I don't think

basically, why trade Roddy…what are you getting back in return? Dwight and Deron are the two targets we are looking for obviously; so if you’re going to trade Roddy, it had better be for a piece that helps you land one of those guys or for one of them in a package.

"Look at our current situation with that camel f$%ker over in Iraq. Pacifism is not something to hide behind."

by Walter Sobchak on Feb 21, 2012 5:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I would rather the Rodrique at PG experiment end

and let him be what he is, which is a SG….

let DomJO and West battle for the Backup PG/SG position

this would keep Dallas from having to resign Terry(i love ya, but a 30+ undersized SG isn’t what this team needs)

Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST

by I am Ironman!!! on Feb 21, 2012 12:44 PM CST reply actions  

Terry will finish a Mav I bet

we will go into the offseason and try like hell to get Deron and Dwight. If we get one or both, we will offer minimum contracts to Terry and Kidd. Will they take them? Probably.

"Look at our current situation with that camel f$%ker over in Iraq. Pacifism is not something to hide behind."

by Walter Sobchak on Feb 21, 2012 5:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Minimum contracts?

You really think that Terry and Kidd will all of a sudden play for a tenth of what they are making now, just because Cuban decides to remodel the roster and give all the money to other players? And you think that’s probable? No way, is what I say – we’ll see.

by beachdrifter on Feb 21, 2012 7:07 PM CST up reply actions  

well it all depends

there could be a desperate team out there with cap space and the building blocks for a championship caliber team (see: OkC) that wants a sniper and pays Terry more; but I doubt he leaves for another Atlanta Hawks situation, no matter how much money there is in difference. He loves Dallas, has kids here that love it, is very active, and won a title with this team.

Kidd, same thing – you think he wants to take a few more million to go to sit on the bench with a lesser chance of winning it all?

"Look at our current situation with that camel f$%ker over in Iraq. Pacifism is not something to hide behind."

by Walter Sobchak on Feb 21, 2012 7:25 PM CST up reply actions  

There isn't much that can be said about the next season's Mavs...

other than that they will look very different than this year’s, so nothing can be said at this point about their competitiveness.

So I think it’s not realistic to expect that players like Terry and Kidd will settle for the league minimum. Even though some players sometimes make it seem like they’re only in it “for the fun of it”, when it comes down to it, it’s their job, and they’ll simply blame Cuban for not offering them a realistic contract and walk, rather than leaving millions on the table.

by beachdrifter on Feb 21, 2012 8:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Words backed up by actions are what counts; I believe in Jet's words after the tattoo and his recent claims

“No question. That’s definitely even more a part of the motivation knowing that I want to be here in Dallas. I want to retire here,” Terry said. “I want to be up there next to Brad Davis and Dirk [Nowitzki] and Rolando [Blackman] when it’s all said and done.”

“Well, first of all, I’ve bought into the community — you know, I’ve really embraced Dallas as my own. It really feels like home. The fans, they’ve taken a liking to me — a genuine care for everything I do, all the hard work, all the energy I put into going out and making it real for them. You know, I’m always available; I’ll sign every autograph. So it’s more of a tribute to them than for me. To see my jersey go up there … a guy that has sacrificed so much by coming to Dallas and over the years, all the hard work we put in to try to be champions, and then to be the only point guard to take their team to the Finals in ‘05-’06, but to finally get there this year and win it? Sixth Man of the Year two years ago — [and] should’ve been the last three years? (laughs) You know what? I’m very humble, I’m a hungry guy, but sometimes you got to toot your own horn. And if it means telling them, “Move over, Ro, move over, Brad Davis,” then that’s what you got to do."

"Look at our current situation with that camel f$%ker over in Iraq. Pacifism is not something to hide behind."

by Walter Sobchak on Feb 22, 2012 11:47 AM CST up reply actions  

I'd love to see it that way...

but quite frankly, what I’ve seen after the Mavs won the title, the way people talked, and acted afterwards, has shown me what this business is really about.

And Terry…well, he tried his best with Cuban to get his contract renewed, tried to put pressure on him with public statements about it, and you know what, he was not at all offering to play for the minimum next season. And so Cuban did not renew with him.

At the end of the day, it’s business. And I think especially Terry will be no exception.

by beachdrifter on Feb 22, 2012 1:56 PM CST up reply actions  

I think there’s a lot of exhaustion with regard to Roddy, but the thing to keep in mind is that there’s no incentive for the Mavs to move him this year. They refuse to take on salary, so they’d have to give him away for nothing or for the remainder of a one-year deal. Since they are unlikely to get what he’s worth, with those constraints, there’s not much need to bother about it now. As J0shi points out, he’s relatively likely to be gone next year, because everyone is.

@andytobo

by andytobo on Feb 21, 2012 12:45 PM CST reply actions  

I mean Roddy has talent but clearly will not get an opportunity in Dallas.

I can’t remember many players having as short of a leash as Carlisle has for Roddy. And, I can’t remember a player who clearly has tons of talent at one position (SG) being so forced to play another (PG). If Roddy was given the opportunity to play extended minutes without being terrified of making mistakes, I think he would do quite well. I would love to get a chance to see what he could do in a place like Golden State.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Creasy729 on Feb 21, 2012 2:43 PM CST reply actions  

I don't think you can blame Carlisle

he’s not in the “rebuilding” mode. He’s trying to win as many championships as possible while we still have Dirk in his prime.

Kidd is clearly the best PG on this team; behind him, the better ball handlers/playmakers we have (since Odom isn’t working at the moment as a Point-Forward) are Delonte West and Vince Carter. Even Jason Terry has been handling the ball better, and until Jet’s gone, and Vince is gone, Roddy doesn’t have much reason to be a SG on this team. Do you think Roddy will take their place? The only reason DoJo has been given the minutes lately instead of Roddy is because he’s been absent. If he were here, he’d be getting a big chunk of minutes.

"Look at our current situation with that camel f$%ker over in Iraq. Pacifism is not something to hide behind."

by Walter Sobchak on Feb 21, 2012 5:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Jason Kidd, Steve Nash, then... Roddy B?

Would we be able to stomach it if Roddy B becomes huge after he leaves Dallas?

Football Fever is over...time to get going, Mavs.

by Grady90 on Feb 21, 2012 3:10 PM CST reply actions  

Huge for just one year though.

"The idea is not to block every shot. The idea is to make your opponent believe that you might block every shot."

- Bill Russell

by Marjun Raposon on Feb 21, 2012 10:58 PM CST up reply actions  

maybe if they KNOW ...

How about Roddy and Marion for someone who can play, but who has an expiring contract? But only if the Mavs brain trust has already cleared the move with Deron and D12’s agent! Jamison comes to mind …

by Jim Bradshaw on Feb 21, 2012 3:46 PM CST reply actions  

He's one of the most talented players on the roster....

and it’s no surprise he has the third-highest PER of all Mavs players. His quickness is unmatched by anyone on the team, his defense has improved to the point of being among the best guards in the league, his A/TO ratio looks good – with consistent PT (if only between 10-20 minutes per game), he’d be huge by the end of the season.

Trade him for essentially nothing, like Brewer and Fernandez? Great idea, considering we’re dealing with 25-minute Kidd who has already been injured twice in 2 months, an injury-prone West who won’t play for weeks, and DoJo who is at best an emergency option for a few games….oh dear. Stupidest idea I’ve ever heard.

by beachdrifter on Feb 21, 2012 6:15 PM CST reply actions  

Oh, 41% FG percentage?

Jason Terry is actually rapidly approaching that, and Beaubois is still better than the likes of Odom, Kidd or Jones in that category.

Not to mention the fact that unlike Kidd or Terry, he can actually defend All-Star point guards, as he has shown against the likes of Tony Parker.

by beachdrifter on Feb 21, 2012 6:26 PM CST up reply actions  

We didn't trade Brewer and Fernandez for nothing.

We traded them for ‘12-’13 capspace with which to sign DWill and Superman. Same reasoning behind a Beaubois deal. If we land those guys, will you still be complaining about the DEN deal?

Remember, it’s not all about this season. It’s about retooling on the fly and grabbing two guys who not only would play with Dirk and help the team contend for the championship while he’s still playing but also who would replace him as the franchise’s marquee players after Dirk retires. We can’t draft awesome prospects who could become franchise players who would eventually replace Dirk because we’re always drafting low so this is the best opportunity and really the only means we have over the next few years to acquire such players. Think long-term. This year is a throwaway year.

"I'm a unitard!" - Ralph Wiggum

by stupidsexyflanders on Feb 21, 2012 6:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Throwaway year?

Disagree completely.

Throwing Beaubois away NOW for pipe dreams (players that will most likely be gone and signed elsewhere before the trade deadline), even though we need him NOW, and even though he’ll only make ~2M next year, and could be traded later if needed…

No, I don’t see that, at all. Beaubois is a steal for 2M (~1M now), and even if pipe dreams became true, which they don’t, you’d still need more than 4 players on your team.

The likes of Terry and Kidd make more than 10M, just to put things in perspective here.

by beachdrifter on Feb 21, 2012 6:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry

but this team is structured with next year and the next and the next etc. in mind. Tons of expiring contracts, tons of old players on the decline who we need to get rid of, basically only 2-3 guys on the roster now will be on next year’s roster. This was Cuban’s plan. He timed the expiring of all these contracts with the push to get D3 and DWill. You want to call it a pipe dream? Pretty sure Cuban knows a little more about what he’s doing than you do.

"I'm a unitard!" - Ralph Wiggum

by stupidsexyflanders on Feb 21, 2012 7:29 PM CST up reply actions  

You're not addressing the real issue...

that it is not necessary to give away Roddy NOW…to get 2 players of which Cuban does NOT know, and he said that already several times, if they will even be available at all in FA – let alone will sign for the Mavs. He wants to rebuild the team, of course, because he has to, it’s the oldest in the league. Some last barely more than half a game these days.

Whatever happens, trading Roddy NOW is not what will make or break those other two FA deals you (and other Mavs fans) are dreaming about.

But he can help us this season to defend the championship. And this is a very good team, indeed, as this latest stretch of games has proven. Throwaway year? In my opinion, they are among the Top3 in the West (not just in terms of current standings)

by beachdrifter on Feb 21, 2012 8:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Well

a Kidd, Carter, Terry, Jones group at G isn’t half bad and another G on an expiring contract is probably what we’re looking for in exchange for Beaubois with West out after all so no depth issues would be created by the trade. Once West is back, Carter shifts back to more of a swingman role.

And Beaubois would fetch us more at the deadline than he would after the season since he’s not going to get any burn the rest of the season and therefore he’s not going to be more productive than he is right now. Sell high on him while perceptions of his potential are at their highest.

And I made a post in another thread about a Plan B in case we can’t get Howard and DWill. For the price of those 2 guys you could 3-4 solid pieces like some combination of UFA SF/SG Nick Young, UFA C Spencer Hawes, UFA SG/SF Landry Fields, maybe RFA D. J. Augustin or UFA Mo Williams at PG, UFA PF Ilysova as 6th man etc. Dump the old guys like we were planning to anyway and we load up on younger guys. We still might be able to to afford to retain Wright, Mahinmi, Jones, Carter even. Using this method instead of going after DWill and DH, we end up not top-heavy like the Heat but like the very deep one-stud-surrounded-by-a-ton-of solid-role-players Bulls.

And this IS a throwaway year in that how we do this year won’t be indicative of how good the team will be the following seasons because the roster will have turned over greatly between this year and the next. This season is just a little bump on the road while we’re driving towards a rebuilt roster next year.

"I'm a unitard!" - Ralph Wiggum

by stupidsexyflanders on Feb 21, 2012 10:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Perceptions aren't high on Roddy right now

you would be selling VERY low.

You’ve lost me if you’re out on pursuing Deron or Dwight (or both).

Nothing matters for Carlisle and the existing team and most of management except how we play this year. If they think there is a move that will improve their chances THIS YEAR, and Cuban can be convinced that the move will not impact their chances in free agency, I believe they will make a move. But I don’t see that as likely. They have a very deep, very effective group (when healthy) that is starting to come together very nicely just as last year’s team did. Their defense, with the loss of the mighty Chandler, is # 1 in the league in FG%. Haywood may not be putting up Chandler numbers, and doesn’t have as many “kick your legs in the air” slam dunks, but he and the rest of that three headed Center monster are doing a damn good job of moving on. Marion is playing like the defensive POY. Why get rid of him? When Dirk was out, he was also lights out on offense. He’s a legit post scoring presence, something this team lacked so much before he arrived. I’d say his post offense (and the presumable Odom post offense, with Carter’s skills backing down other guards) are much more of a boost than anything Chandler brought offensively. We’re deep, and this team is just as hungry to repeat (and the newcomers West, Carter that haven’t won rings and Odom, who I would hope will get a wakeup call and decide he wants to show LA up and win another one here)…this is a perfect storm. And you don’t think OkC is ripe for the plucking? Without a freak shot by Durant, we have won that first game; we dominated the second game; and the third game, no matter how biased I am, was decided by poor referees. We have their #. They can’t beat us in a Best-of-7 series, is my bet. Stay healthy, and this team will be there in the end.

Now – Cuban’s mindset, and Donnie’s, are probably different. They DID put this team together, which in my opinion, is more talented than last year’s was when you look from top to bottom. But they did so sneakily keeping a really good opportunity intact to acquire top-end talent in Deron and/or Dwight next year. I don’t handicap our chances at landing one or both of those guys at a very high level against “the field,” but I think when you look at them individually, it just makes sense that they come here. Deron’s from this city and unlike Bosh, he embraces it. I was in the locker room after Game 5 of the Finals, and guess who was in there with a Texas Rangers hat on, BSing with all of the guys, biggest smile in the world on his face? Deron Williams. You think he doesn’t want to light up the home crowd and play next to Dirk? Dwight Howard doesn’t get traded before the All Star Break (which I hear is unlikely), and he has LA, Orlando, New Jersey and Dallas on his radar. You think he wants to go back to Orlando? No – cross them off the list (in red pen). Does he want to play second fiddle to the Knicks, especially if Deron doesn’t sign an extension there? No. So for all intents and purposes, cross them off the list (in pencil). That leaves the Lakers and the Mavs. Two teams with aging top 20 all time scorers that have won titles, and haven’t left their teams. One of these teams is on a high and potentially could keep that high going for years. The other will never fall so far, but after the 4 game sweep and the Odom fiasco, the Gasol rumors, and with Bynum’s shaky knees and Kobe’s future health a legitimate concern as his athleticism (unlike Dirk’s strengths) will eventually start to fade, and I think the Mavs are a bigger attraction. Dwight will have to see what happens with Bynum and/or Gasol in LA before he commits, as I doubt they can take on that contract. Sign-and-trade? Either way, LA as a city is more attractive. But does Dwight think he has a better chance at a championship there? Who knows…

"Look at our current situation with that camel f$%ker over in Iraq. Pacifism is not something to hide behind."

by Walter Sobchak on Feb 22, 2012 12:02 PM CST up reply actions  

How

do you get that I’m out on signing DWill and DH? All I said is all isn’t lost if we don’t manage to sign them as we could construct the roster in a different way and still be very good. I said before that we could definitely use those two because Dirk only has a few years left and we need marquee franchise-type players to keep the team competitive after he’s gone. We can’t draft them because we’re always drafting low, so we’re left with resorting to adding those kinds of players via free-agency.

And it’s a credit to management and the team that we’re this competitive despite being in a transitional stage.

"I'm a unitard!" - Ralph Wiggum

by stupidsexyflanders on Feb 22, 2012 2:27 PM CST up reply actions  

No depth issues?

We ALREADY have depth issues at PG. Kidd is under strict minute restrictions, has been injured twice already over the last two months, and his lack of quickness is not what you want to see from a PG. West is already injured, as I (sadly) predicted just one game before it happened, and he also lost most of last season due to a wrist injury. I’ve seen enough of DoJo.

That’s why we need Roddy NOW, and as Walter has so wonderfully described above, it’s all about WINNING NOW, it’s about repeating, making use of all the talent on the team, and not wasting Dirk’s prime.

Also, Walter is right about about Roddy’s value right now. It’s in the dumps. And to say he “isn’t going to get any more burn the rest of the season” is just a silly thing to say. I guarantee you he is going to play directly after the All-Star break.

If you can’t even see the depth and age-related issues that I spelt out (also obvious for VC now)…oh well.

Talk to you again after the trade deadline :)

by beachdrifter on Feb 22, 2012 1:49 PM CST up reply actions  

I see

the age-related issues which is why in another post I advocated signing Nick Young or Landry Fields to play SG and adding D. J. Augustin to play PG next year if we don’t end up with DWill. I like the idea of moving on from Terry and Kidd and going younger at both PG and SG next year.

I just don’t think PG is as much as a problem right now as you do. I like D. Jones more than you do as he’s a good ball-handler and penetrator and if you complain about his outside shot, well Rondo isn’t exactly Ray Allen is he? No I’m not comparing Jones to Rondo in terms of overall quality of play. I’m just saying it’s ok if your PG doesn’t have fantastic shooting range if you’ve got 3 other guys on the court who do, and if that PG can compensate by contributing in other ways. Anyway, Kidd’s still capable of being productive in spurts, Carter and Terry are both good ball-handlers and passers for SG’s, and Odom is able to play point forward with his passing skills so we can run the O through him on occasion. I think we just need to hold the fort down until West comes back in March. And what’s our record without West?

You also have take into account what we get for Beaubois. If we dump him for a 2nd round pick, then that’s an issue. If we move him for another guard who’s on an expiring like Barbosa or someone like RFA Bayless who if he gets offers next season we can just decide not to match them, then we’ve replaced a guard on the bottom of the depth chart with a vet guard who can contribute meaningful minutes.

Think it’s a little weird to pronounce any deal right now involving Beaubois as bad for the Mavs before you even see what we get for him.

And anyway, bottom line is he’s making $2 mil next year and that $2 mil off the books next year could help us in a big way to improve the roster. Argue that we’re focused on this year if you want, but it’s possible to keep your eyes on two different things at the same time.

"I'm a unitard!" - Ralph Wiggum

by stupidsexyflanders on Feb 22, 2012 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

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