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Diop Traded for Matt Carroll and Ryan Hollins

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Dallas has finally made a deal and January 16th etched itself into the Dallas history books.  From now until the end of the time, it will be remembered as the day Dallas traded that one backup center to Charlotte for those two other guys.  Although I suppose in ten years there might be someone out there who will be able to tell you the actual trade was DeSagana Diop for Matt Carroll and Ryan Hollins, but it will be the same guy who can tell you the Mavs took Jay Bilas with the 108th pick of the 1986 draft.

Needless to say this isn't one of the more exciting trades in recent memory.  Diop to Charlotte rumors had been popping up for a large part of the season and the most recent incarnation had Diop ending up in Charlotte and Raymond Felton returning to Dallas.  To get an idea on how much more interesting that idea was, Felton averages four more ppg than the three players in this deal combined.  As a result, this trade was rather anticlimactic.

On the surface, it's hard to argue one way or the other that either Dallas or Charlotte improved their team immediately.  Carroll is a shooter who is having the worst shooting year of his career (26.7% from 3).  Hollins immediately takes Diop role as the guy to get limited minutes behind Dampier. And Diop has left Dallas before finishing a single year of his recently signed full MLE -- which is what the trade really comes down to.

This deal saves Dallas money.  It's a wash this season, but as Diop's contract continues to increase until 2013 Carroll's will steadily decrease.  By the final year Carroll will be making nearly four million less than Diop.  That aspect makes this trade stand on its own, but one can't help but wonder if this is a precusror to something larger.


FG 3PT FT Rebounds Misc
G M M A Pct M A Pct M A Pct Off Def Tot Ast TO Stl Blk PF PPG
2008 - DeSagana Diop 34 13.3 0.6 1.7 37.9 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.4 0.9 41.4 1.3 2.1 3.5 0.4 0.3 0.4 0.7 1.6 1.6


FG 3PT FT Rebounds Misc
G M M A Pct M A Pct M A Pct Off Def Tot Ast TO Stl Blk PF PPG
2008 - Ryan Hollins 18 10.2 1.1 1.9 54.3 0.0 0.0 0.0 1.4 2.2 66.7 1.1 0.9 2.0 0.2 0.6 0.2 0.9 1.9 3.6


FG 3PT FT Rebounds Misc
G M M A Pct M A Pct M A Pct Off Def Tot Ast TO Stl Blk PF PPG
2008 - Matt Carroll 33 14.1 1.7 4.1 40.7 0.4 1.4 26.7 0.5 0.6 78.9 0.2 1.5 1.6 0.7 0.8 0.5 0.2 1.5 4.2

Salaries
DeSagana Diop Matt Carroll Ryan Hollins
08/09 $5,585,000 $5,050,000 $972,581
09/10 $6,031,800 $4,700,000 -
10/11 $6,478,600 $4,300,000 -
11/12 $6,925,400 $3,900,000 -
12/13 $7,372,200 $3,500,000 -

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Jermaine O'Neal Possibilities

With Rick Carlisle in the building, Bill Ingram over at Hoopsworld floated the possibility of a Mavs trade for Jermaine O'Neal of the Pacers during the summer. The centerpiece of his article was that the Mavs would trade uneven Josh Howard for oft-injured O'neal. Ingram doesn't go into details on how such a trade could work in terms of parts, but the guys over at Indy Cornrows took a whack at the possibility (with a hat tip to Caught in the Web) and found it unlikely for a few reasons.

First of all there is the salary issue of a $10 million difference in salaries. That's a large amount to fill in. Another player or players would have to be included to make it work.

Next up, and perhaps more importantly from Indy's standpoint, there is Howard's comments about smoking marijuana:

Josh Howard is a great player and no doubt a good guy, but the Pacers can't take a risk of having another player suspended for drug use and Howard would definitely constitute a risk.

These are compelling points. However, the article makes one key point that I think makes this trade distinctly possible:

...combined with Dampier, it might be as good a deal as the Pacers could find for J.O.

And that deal--Dampier and Josh for O'Neal--is a compelling one for the Mavs. It's a risk, of course. The Mavs are trading two starters for one, but there is a significant upside in that the Mavs would have an extremely strong two-way center to pair with Nowitzki and Kidd. With Kidd on the court the Mavs could certainly use Terry as a small 2 guard sniper. The real problem would be the hole that Howard leaves at small forward. Could Bass fill that position? These are the kind of intriguing questions and risks that make this deal interesting.

But there is an evern more compelling reason to make this deal: O'Neal's contract. Howard and Dampier have three more years on their deals than O'Neal, who would come off the books--guess when? Yes, the exact same year that Kidd comes off the books. That puts the Mavericks in a spectacular salary cap position, while still having a Dirk on the roster.

So Jermaine O'Neal for Erick Dampier and Josh Howard is similar to the Jason Kidd deal in that it is a "win now" risk with fantastic long-term prospects for the team to build on if it doesn't work out (and even if it does work out!).

Note what the Indy Cornrows guys said, as well: "...it might be as good a deal as the Pacers could find for J.O."

The real wild card here is the relationship between new Mavs coach Rick Carlisle and Jermaine O'Neal. O'Neal doesn't have a problem with Carlisle, but he is far from a fan. When Jim O'Brien replaced Carlisle at Indiana, O'Neal was very public how he liked O'Brien's offense more than Carlisle's (even though his production went down). O'Neal also found Carlisle aloof, a common criticism of Carlisle. All told, Carlisle here isn't going to make O'Neal enthusiastic about joining the team, although it isn't a deal breaker either. The interesting thing is that the opposite doesn't seem to be the case: Carlisle use O'Neal very effectively in Indiana, and it is quite possible that Carlisle would be enthusiastic about such a trade.

In the end, this is one of the real intriguing possibilities for the summer and one that makes a lot of sense for both teams.

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Bucks Fans Like Josh Howard

The Bucks blog Brew Hoop has a post up today saying the Milwaukee should be making a play for the seemingly available Josh Howard.

He proposes a Stackhouse and Howard for Redd trade and thinks it could make sense for both teams.  The Bucks save some money and Dallas gets a serious offensive threat to to play next to Dirk.

Overall, the chance to add a player of Howard's abilities while also helping mitigate future luxury tax concerns would seem hard to beat at this point, unless Hammond and Skiles think they can get more out of Redd by keeping him. Unfortunately, Redd's legacy in Milwaukee might make that difficult. While there's no doubt that Redd's scoring would be missed, at $17 million per season he simply isn't good enough to carry a franchise, a burden he wouldn't have in Dallas.

Anyway, it's a good read and nice to see that while Mavs fans may be down on Howard right now, he's still valued around the league -- at least by fans.

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